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OZBomb said:
We've got a bloke who's perfect for Full Back on our list already. His name is Jake Edwards.

His best assets are his his pace off the mark and overhead judgement. He's 191cm and getting taller and he's got a much better frame on him than Thornton ever had.

I'm not saying he should play Full Back in the seniors, but I think it'd be a good idea to play him there all year in the VFL. He hasn't got a position at the moment anyway, so it's not like you'll be stifling his development.

If I where coaching I'd rotate Bower, O'hAilpin and Waite on the talls in defence depending upon the match up. Whitnall and Kennedy rotating from CHF to Forward Pocket with Fish pushing up into the mid-field off a flank creating space. Having Whitnall and Kennedy constantly switching would cause confusion in the back-line and would likely draw the player standing in Fev's leading space to become accountable for Kennedy or Whitnall.

You could also switch Waite and Whitnall with few problems
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I wish coaches would think more like us fans.Great ideas :thumbsu:
 
OZBomb said:
We've got a bloke who's perfect for Full Back on our list already. His name is Jake Edwards.

His best assets are his his pace off the mark and overhead judgement. He's 191cm and getting taller and he's got a much better frame on him than Thornton ever had.

I'm not saying he should play Full Back in the seniors, but I think it'd be a good idea to play him there all year in the VFL. He hasn't got a position at the moment anyway, so it's not like you'll be stifling his development.

If I where coaching I'd rotate Bower, O'hAilpin and Waite on the talls in defence depending upon the match up. Whitnall and Kennedy rotating from CHF to Forward Pocket with Fish pushing up into the mid-field off a flank creating space. Having Whitnall and Kennedy constantly switching would cause confusion in the back-line and would likely draw the player standing in Fev's leading space to become accountable for Kennedy or Whitnall.

You could also switch Waite and Whitnall with few problems
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Exaclty right OZ, and the chances are good that a decent tall defender will be available in the PSD, so as i keep saying ad nauseum, go small with 1, 17 and 19, don't waste a pick on another tall, time to get some team balance and some skillful ball carriers developing in the Ants.
 

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I'm not saying he wouldn't be considered, but IMO 17 and 19 is paying over the odds considering who else is likely to be available, if we got an extra second round pick, say #24 i would look at him.

I am just tryiing to give a more balanced view than getting excited about a draft camp result, have you seen him play C4? Who were the other stand out KPD in the champs? McKenzie was down on form, vic metro had riddle at 186cm playing full back, SA were badly undermanned down back, and Brown played on Hawkins in the downpour on the last day of the champs, so who was his opposition for AA??

He is quick over 20m in a straight line, but what about if he gets turned around by a Tarrant, how is his agility, pace over 5 and 10 metres? Decision making and reading of the play. Livo was quick over 20 too. I don't have his results for 5 or 10, but i'm just saying there is a lot more to it than being named AA and a good 20m draft camp result.
 
Gilly1972 said:
I'm not saying he wouldn't be considered, but IMO 17 and 19 is paying over the odds considering who else is likely to be available, if we got an extra second round pick, say #24 i would look at him.

I am just tryiing to give a more balanced view than getting excited about a draft camp result, have you seen him play C4? Who were the other stand out KPD in the champs? McKenzie was down on form, vic metro had riddle at 186cm playing full back, SA were badly undermanned down back, and Brown played on Hawkins in the downpour on the last day of the champs, so who was his opposition for AA??

He is quick over 20m in a straight line, but what about if he gets turned around by a Tarrant, how is his agility, pace over 5 and 10 metres? Decision making and reading of the play. Livo was quick over 20 too. I don't have his results for 5 or 10, but i'm just saying there is a lot more to it than being named AA and a good 20m draft camp result.
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100% agree. It doesn't matter if Brown has pace, its agility and recovery that is very important as well. Good forwards like Riewoldt etc. lead to one pocket then suddenly track back or change direction. A good full back can change direction quickly to put a spoil in.
 
Gilly1972 said:
I'm not saying he wouldn't be considered, but IMO 17 and 19 is paying over the odds considering who else is likely to be available, if we got an extra second round pick, say #24 i would look at him.

I am just tryiing to give a more balanced view than getting excited about a draft camp result, have you seen him play C4? Who were the other stand out KPD in the champs? McKenzie was down on form, vic metro had riddle at 186cm playing full back, SA were badly undermanned down back, and Brown played on Hawkins in the downpour on the last day of the champs, so who was his opposition for AA??

He is quick over 20m in a straight line, but what about if he gets turned around by a Tarrant, how is his agility, pace over 5 and 10 metres? Decision making and reading of the play. Livo was quick over 20 too. I don't have his results for 5 or 10, but i'm just saying there is a lot more to it than being named AA and a good 20m draft camp result.
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I see where you're coming from ... but I feel the loss of Thornton is going to change our draft strategy in a way (Gibbs will still be a lock for #1 though).

Previously we may have considered him to be around at 35 ... now with the loss of Thornton our priorities could change and we may have to pay over the odds to ensure he ends up with us. However you'd suspect he'd be around at the 25 mark - where by with Hawthorns pick (that would be ours due to the T-Bird saga) he'd definatley have to be considered.

Perhaps Im just a moron who has a recruiting strategy similar to that of O'Sullivan ... id probably agree.

Hello Austin Lucy ...
 
Mate, i don't think you're a moron at all. I don't have the answers, a lot of it is guesswork, and my opinion is only based on the three champs games, i haven't seen him at tac level, just trying to give a more balanced view, and just pointing out that i would support Hughes if we went best available if it happened to be three mids with the first three picks. Between Hartlett, Edwards (still a year or two off albeit, but so might Brown), Bower, O'Hailpin, (promote) Flint, Whitnall, Walker can pinch hit on a tall worst case scenario, we aren't too thin down back, plus if we lose Thornton as i say we can look to replace him with PSD#1 if one of Notting, Polak or McGregor (who i believe is unhappy with the Crows) are there. IMO there are a couple of athletic young KPD who will most likely be available with our last pick and probably worth a punt if we decide to go that route.
 
Agree with that about Hughes picking 3 mids with first 3 picks.

I don't think many CFC supporters realise Hughes picks on best available and not position.

If we picked Gibbs at one it's no good to say we'll pick a ruckman or KP with pick 17 because of need. What if we rank the best ruckman or KP at around pick 25? It would be silly to pick them if there was someone ranked higher....say around 14 who had slipped through to 17 and not pick them just because they don't suit our needs.
 
Give or take a few spots and notwithstanding bolters, here are some of the kids that might be around our PP and 2nd rounder:

Armitage
Benjamin
O'Brien
Hislop
Boak
Schmidt
Petterd
Hawksley
Houli
Everitt
Connors
Reid
Urqhart
Djerrkura
Moss


it's hard for me to squeeze Brown in unless we get #24.

Given the likely talent around still into the second round, soome likely rucks or KPD who might be still available at #35:

Tippett
Renouf
Hampson
Jacobs

Everitt
Collier
Frawley
N.Brown
McKenzie
Mark Austin (mate of Gibbs, played a couple of senior SANFL games for Glenelg)
Faulks

doing the math, somebody we might want to pick for need will be around at #35.

Then add one of Polak, Notting or McGregor if available in the PSD, and a Kreuzer or Bellchambers or McEvoy (rucks in next years draft) and it is starting to look more balanced IMO
 
There is talk that Brown's DC results will push him a fair way up the order and could mean he wont even be available at pick 17.
 

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Hampson is from Southport FC IIRC, was the second string ruckman for Qld in the champs, and shared the duties with Renouf and Tippett, looked pretty skinny and raw, although lookiing at photos from the draft camp he looks like he has a good build and will have no problems bulkiing up a bit. Quite athletic his tapwork was ok without being spectacular, although i hear his form post champs in the QFl was impressive, he might have a bit more upsdie than Renouf and might eventually go past him, probably a bit more of a risk, but might worth it at #35 or #51. Jacobs (SA) is the other one i like. Big lump of a kid, but from what i saw of him in the SANFL he didn't look out of place playing against men....palms the ball down nicely, doesn't panic with the ball for a big fella either, is willing to wear a tackle and to just hold the ball long enough to give it off to a teammate to advantage.
 
Gilly1972 said:
Hampson is from Southport FC IIRC, was the second string ruckman for Qld in the champs, and shared the duties with Renouf and Tippett, looked pretty skinny and raw, although lookiing at photos from the draft camp he looks like he has a good build and will have no problems bulkiing up a bit. Quite athletic his tapwork was ok without being spectacular, although i hear his form post champs in the QFl was impressive, he might have a bit more upsdie than Renouf and might eventually go past him, probably a bit more of a risk, but might worth it at #35 or #51. Jacobs (SA) is the other one i like. Big lump of a kid, but from what i saw of him in the SANFL he didn't look out of place playing against men....palms the ball down nicely, doesn't panic with the ball for a big fella either, is willing to wear a tackle and to just hold the ball long enough to give it off to a teammate to advantage.
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yeah he definatley would be a look in at 51 (pending he's still there). Thanks.
 
HugeBluesFan said:
IMO, #24 is guaranteed to be ours by this time next week.
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Somebody's going to have a lot of fun in the BF phantom draft ;)

Knowing my luck the Dees will trade pick 12 for Jason Johnson and i won't get a pick until #30 :mad:
 
Gilly1972 said:
Somebody's going to have a lot of fun in the BF phantom draft ;)

Knowing my luck the Dees will trade pick 12 for Jason Johnson and i won't get a pick until #30 :mad:
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Wouldn't bother me mate. One less club who can take my player that I desperately want at #17, you know who i'm talking about.
 

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