Query national football league - ANFL NFL NFC

[killer]

"Australian National Football League" would that be the same organisation
as the Australiasia football council (1905-) ?
When did it cease to exist?
Who were the office holders/key people ?

 

[fabulousphil]

"Australian National Football League" would that be the same organisation
as the Australiasia football council (1905-) ?
When did it cease to exist?
Who were the office holders/key people ?

Edd Biggs is a name that springs to mind, and of course the Collingwood player Bruce Andrews who bought the initial parcel of land in Cairns in the 1950's (?) that Cazalys now sits on.

 

[killer]

I remember some references to it being run out of Adelaide in the 1970s (?)

Ray Kutcher was the CEO in the 70s in believe with keith webb the general manager
the turned up to an NTFL game in Darwin and were quite dismissive of the standard


think Aylett was the manager in the early 80s then got rolled and was replaced by vin yovich

Darryl hicks was the NFL coaching director from 1975 to 79 then some guy named Warren

I had a lot of under 18 championship ( Teal Cup) programmes and the
name seemed to change from NFL to NFC in the early 90s

 

[My North]

what a great thread

 

[Rainier Wolfcastle]

"Australian National Football League" would that be the same organisation
as the Australiasia football council (1905-) ?
When did it cease to exist?
Who were the office holders/key people ?

One and the same killer

A bit of background:

The VFL and the SANFL had a dispute in 1904 over the sharing of gate takings for their annual interstate matches. This resulted in the scrapping of games between the two leagues. The VFA quickly seized the opportunity and arranged two rep matches against SA for 1905, both of which were surprisingly close, and well attended.

The VFL responded to this threat by calling all the state footballing bodies together (except the VFA of course!) for a conference in Nov.1905 at which they agreed to form a national governing body for Australian Football. Timeline after that:

Nov. 1906 - Australasian Football Council (AFC) was officially formed.
Aug. 1908 - first National Carnival held (organised by the AFC)
Aug. 1927 - AFC was renamed the Australian National Football Council (ANFC)
1971 - dropped the "National" and became the Australian Football Council (AFC)
Apr. 1975 - renamed the National Football League of Australia (NFL)
1993 - the NFL had become largely redundant due to the VFL becoming a national league, and under pressure from Ross Oakley they agreed to sign a deal that handed control of the game to the AFL (including the ability to change the laws of the game), and the AFC/ANFC/NFL ceased to exist from that point.

The chairman/president was usually from one of the big three leagues and included:

Con Hickey (VFL) - ex-Fitzroy in their VFA days
Charles Brownlow (VFL)
Eric Tassie (SANFL)
R.P Rodriguez (WAFL)
Ray Kutcher (SANFL)
Allen Aylett (VFL)

You're spot on about Kutcher being in charge in the '70s and Aylett getting rolled in the '80s - he lost his NFL gig not long after Jack Hamilton cut the ground out from under him to take over the VFL!)

fabulousphil is correct about Bruce Andrew being there in the '50s. He actually was the secretary rather than the president but served on the ANFC for a bunch of years (even coached the VFL-VFA team at the 1956 Olympics demonstration match).

fabulousphil - Bruce Andrew purchasing that land for Cazaly's is a classic, had never heard that, but makes sense with the ANFC pushing the game into Qld/NSW in the 1950s. That guy absolutely lived and breathed footy but unfortunately, still doesn't get enough credit for his efforts promoting the game outside of Vic/SA/WA.

 

[fabulousphil]

One and the same killer

A bit of background:

The VFL and the SANFL had a dispute in 1904 over the sharing of gate takings for their annual interstate matches. This resulted in the scrapping of games between the two leagues. The VFA quickly seized the opportunity and arranged two rep matches against SA for 1905, both of which were surprisingly close, and well attended.

The VFL responded to this threat by calling all the state footballing bodies together (except the VFA of course!) for a conference in Nov.1905 at which they agreed to form a national governing body for Australian Football. Timeline after that:

Nov. 1906 - Australasian Football Council (AFC) was officially formed.
Aug. 1908 - first National Carnival held (organised by the AFC)
Aug. 1927 - AFC was renamed the Australian National Football Council (ANFC)
1971 - dropped the "National" and became the Australian Football Council (AFC)
Apr. 1975 - renamed the National Football League of Australia (NFL)
1993 - the NFL had become largely redundant due to the VFL becoming a national league, and under pressure from Ross Oakley they agreed to sign a deal that handed control of the game to the AFL (including the ability to change the laws of the game), and the AFC/ANFC/NFL ceased to exist from that point.

The chairman/president was usually from one of the big three leagues and included:

Con Hickey (VFL) - ex-Fitzroy in their VFA days
Charles Brownlow (VFL)
Eric Tassie (SANFL)
R.P Rodriguez (WAFL)
Ray Kutcher (SANFL)
Allen Aylett (VFL)

You're spot on about Kutcher being in charge in the '70s and Aylett getting rolled in the '80s - he lost his NFL gig not long after Jack Hamilton cut the ground out from under him to take over the VFL!)

fabulousphil is correct about Bruce Andrew being there in the '50s. He actually was the secretary rather than the president but served on the ANFC for a bunch of years (even coached the VFL-VFA team at the 1956 Olympics demonstration match).

fabulousphil - Bruce Andrew purchasing that land for Cazaly's is a classic, had never heard that, but makes sense with the ANFC pushing the game into Qld/NSW in the 1950s. That guy absolutely lived and breathed footy but unfortunately, still doesn't get enough credit for his efforts promoting the game outside of Vic/SA/WA.

You may find this of interest.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/anfc-vfl-afl.1058570/

 

[killer]

I did read once that the AFL doesn't recognise NFL life members
dunno who would be a life member of the nfl
but there was obviously some privilege (free entry?)

 

[Rainier Wolfcastle]

You may find this of interest.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/anfc-vfl-afl.1058570/

Excellent case of RogersResults playing the ball with well researched and thought out statements while his opponents played the man with generalisations and misplaced aggression... the thread reminded me of the 1989 Grand Final

 

[Rainier Wolfcastle]

I did read once that the AFL doesn't recognise NFL life members
dunno who would be a life member of the nfl
but there was obviously some privilege (free entry?)

Early reports have them granting life membership to a few legendary players upon their retirement, others went to long-serving officials and administrators (like Bruce Andrew who we've already mentioned).

They also issued certificates to long-serving footy people at a local level to recognise their efforts in promoting/developing/serving the game (these were apparently based on recommendations from delegates of each of the major state leagues). The Canberra Times on Trove mentions local coaches and officials (club secretaries/treasurers, etc) receiving a nod after years of plugging away on a largely voluntary basis.

As for the privileges of membership? If it was anything like VFL-AFL life membership they probably got free entry to National Carnivals, NFL Night Series matches (1976-79), etc but that's pure guesswork on my part.

 

[35Daicos]

the thread reminded me of the 1989 Grand Final

Classic comment!