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Didn’t Cooke grow two to three inches in his draft year?
Still needs to put some muscle on and learn how to use his size
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Still needs to put some muscle on and learn how to use his size
In Tyson Edwards first 50 games, he had zero 30+ possession matches. It took till game 78 for him to reach his second 20+ game.
Andrew McLeod had zero 30+ possession games in his first 50. He had two 20+ games in that stretch.
Simon Goodwin also had zero 30+ games in his first 50. He had 4 20+ games.
Scott Thompson had 30+ for the first time in his 50th game.
Heck, Christian Petracca didn't clock up a 30+ possession till last year!
30+ is an unreasonable benchmark, as much as I think some of the points you make are valid concerns.
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We need to wait until end of 2024 :-(
I think that 30+ is a much more reasonable benchmark in 2022 than it was in 1996, given the difference in the game, fitness levels, and time spent on ground these days. But to be fair let's lower the bar for Ned to 20+ disposal games - he has had exactly 3 in his AFL career to date. Soligo has had 4 in his first year alone and averages more tackles per game to boot.
Petracca was criticised in his initial years for underperforming despite his potential but he was talented enough to play as a forward while Melbourne waited for him to grow into a midfielder (like we did with Dangerfield). McHenry doesn't have another attribute to fall back on. Unfortunately, as much as I like him, he can't get a pass mark if he's getting out-performed by first year players in his strongest areas - endurance and defensive pressure.
I can’t feel any optimism about what Ned could become.
He’s just a terrible footballer; feels like a work experience kid out there.
Even when he did a couple of good things in the first quarter v North, he actually stuffed them up.
He dropped a chest mark inside 50, but got lucky as the defender conceded a free.
Later that quarter he stupidly played on and put himself under pressure, thankfully Tex took a great mark from Ned’s scrubber kick to save the play.
He’s just a terrible footballer; feels like a work experience kid out there.
Even when he did a couple of good things in the first quarter v North, he actually stuffed them up.
He dropped a chest mark inside 50, but got lucky as the defender conceded a free.
Later that quarter he stupidly played on and put himself under pressure, thankfully Tex took a great mark from Ned’s scrubber kick to save the play.
Woah there.. long way to go before we can comfortably say Pedlar, Taylor, Cook, Gollant and Nankervis are even going to be 50 game AFL players (flash in the pan) let alone decent players.
Why would we want him getting 30+………………… less is better
Would prefer him on the bench.
In the sanfl...
Did anyone else hear that Smith got Ned to do the team rev up a couple of weeks ago during a break?
Ned is obviously loved at the club and no one doubts his effort dedicatiom and intensity.
He just lacks strength, kicking penetration and footy smarts. He could improve these marginally over the years but I'm not confident that results in an effective long term contributor.. He will always be a bottom 6-8 player which we should be rotating between young players or good role players.
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Ned is obviously loved at the club and no one doubts his effort dedicatiom and intensity.
He just lacks strength, kicking penetration and footy smarts. He could improve these marginally over the years but I'm not confident that results in an effective long term contributor.. He will always be a bottom 6-8 player which we should be rotating between young players or good role players.
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Mackay had ability, Ned doesn't, never has, never will. Should not have been gifted 50 games and will get pushed to permanent SANFL as the team grows.
Sorry... that's really insulting mackay...and I was calling mackay to be delisted long before he retired...
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Maybe, but so long as Ned is being gifted games undeserved, he is stalling the progress of team growth and protects his spot against your inevitable.
Was that the North game? One of our worst performances for the year if it was. The changing captain each fortnight was a stupid idea and hasn't worked. Merely done to protect Sloane's feelings from getting hurt. Just appoint Dawson as captain and Laird as vice thanks.
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Depends on our FWD set up in 2023.
Thilthorpe Fog Rankine
McAdam Walker Rachele
If we land that forward setting I don't mind McHenry being used solely as a pest of a fwd.
The issue is carrying Murphy, McHenry and Rowe.
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McAdam Walker Rachele
If we land that forward setting I don't mind McHenry being used solely as a pest of a fwd.
The issue is carrying Murphy, McHenry and Rowe.
Here's an interesting question - say Sloane comes back around the same time he got injured this past season. Would you prefer to have Rory or Ned in the side, as that 7th forward that can apply pressure? Ned is younger, but Sloane could potentially be more positively productive
Neither is not an option, in this case
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Great question. To be honest, I would lean Ned to start. Younger, more of a pest. Use him to free up Rankine/Rachele and apply pressure.
Whilst I am not overly hopeful, Ned enters 2023 with 5 preseasons and 50 games under his belt.
Also depends on the Rory Sloane we get. Was in decline and struggling for his spot earlier this year and will be another year older after an ACL.
I think it will crazy how talented our forward line will be in 2023. We will be the reverse Crows of 2005/2006. We will need a forward pest like Collingwood have Beau McReery, Demons have Charlie Spargo, Geelong has Close/Miers.
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I'd take Dmac over McHenry any day of the week. Dmac had some skill, just didn't show it nearly enough.
McHenry had no AFL skills whatsoever.
Complete dud.
We tend to remember the late-career version of DMack, where he was being gifted games he probably did not deserve.
But remember he was pick 48! In his third season on our list he was a very important player, as a running half-back link man.
He regularly had more than 20 disposals, including 2 games of 30 - one of these was in a semi-final against Collingwood. He had a higher tackle count than Ned, less FA, more FF, many more marks and similar GA playing out of defence.
Ned can only dream of matching what DMack produced early in his career.
Even in his last few seasons, where the BF pundits were calling for DMack to be dumped (and I was one of those), his contribution to the team was greater than what Ned is bringing on a weekly basis now.
But remember he was pick 48! In his third season on our list he was a very important player, as a running half-back link man.
He regularly had more than 20 disposals, including 2 games of 30 - one of these was in a semi-final against Collingwood. He had a higher tackle count than Ned, less FA, more FF, many more marks and similar GA playing out of defence.
Ned can only dream of matching what DMack produced early in his career.
Even in his last few seasons, where the BF pundits were calling for DMack to be dumped (and I was one of those), his contribution to the team was greater than what Ned is bringing on a weekly basis now.
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Ned would be an asset to the sanfl team he can show the kids how to try hard
That says more about Smith than Ned..
Neither will be in our nxt top 4 team.
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Who is Ned pestering exactly? This is a myth... no opposition could give a shyt about him.
He doesn't have the strength to bother anyone and to make it worse has rubbish skills to be able to aid the team offensively.
He's not AFL standard, it's that simple.
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Couldn't agree more.
Seemed to have dropped a yard or two in pace this season(injury?). Spends most of his time loping from player to player like a teased dog chasing a Frisbee.
Rarely gets to the player before the ball comes sailing back over his head and when he does its only a 25%- chance he affects the play with any meaningful sort of pressure.
I can't knock his work rate, but it's mainly a stupid,ineffectual application of energy. He hasn't much idea about where to be, when to go,where to go or how to make good use of all that hyperactivity/stamina inside him.
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