Society/Culture Neoliberalism

[Seeds]

Like Communism, Neoliberalism is handicapped by being a movement that is too ideological. As mentioned earlier, I too think it is a path to feudalism.

This article:

https://medium.economist.com/a-manifesto-for-renewing-liberalism-8d36c9699649

(Click through to the full essay if you have the time)

is a great read for the true liberals out there. It's a little light on detail but it's thinking is in the right place.

Nothing wrong with ideology. In fact anything that is not ideological is illogical andinconsistent. The problem with communism and libertarianism (neoliberalism isnt actually a thing) is their ideologies were wildly wrong.

 

[swingdog]

Arts degrees often aren't all that unless you're well connected, but STEM degrees are overrated by the right.

The right always talk up STEM degrees but never do them themselves and underfund the sciences, so what do they really want?

 

[ferball]

Its pretty ironic that Tef started this thread and was all for neoliberalism by the time he got booted.

Also Ironic that The Road to Serfdom is secretly an instruction manual but there you go.

 

[QuietB]

Nothing wrong with ideology. In fact anything that is not ideological is illogical andinconsistent. The problem with communism and libertarianism (neoliberalism isnt actually a thing) is their ideologies were wildly wrong.

How is neoliberalism not “actually a thing”

 

[Gethelred]

How is neoliberalism not “actually a thing”

Shhh.

Seeds likes dropping these in otherwise coherent posts, hoping that someone will ask him about it.

Don't give him an opportunity to pontificate on something ridiculous.

 

[peetoo]

The biggest irony is neolibs calling them selves conservative.

They want to rip down institutions not called the IPA

 

[Leeda]

Status unco,..believing is tearing...terrifying

 

[Seeds]

How is neoliberalism not “actually a thing”

There is no neoliberal group. No one calls themselves neo liberalists. There is no neo liberal economic ideology.

There are libertarians whose economic agenda most closely matches what people often call neoliberalism. And i definately think we should call out the dumb economic ideology of libertarians. But its not the same thing as many other complaints about economics termed neoliberalism which are based off mistaken intention and poor understanding of how economics actually works.

 

[Gethelred]

There is no neoliberal group. No one calls themselves neo liberalists. There is no neo liberal economic ideology.

There are libertarians whose economic agenda most closely matches what people often call neoliberalism. And i definately think we should call out the dumb economic ideology of libertarians. But its not the same thing as many other complaints about economics termed neoliberalism which are based off mistaken intention and poor understanding of how economics actually works.

 

[Mofra]

There is no neoliberal group. No one calls themselves neo liberalists. There is no neo liberal economic ideology.

Out and proud, the ASI are neoliberals now — Adam Smith Institute

Coming out as the first self proclaimed neoliberal think tank this week the ASI saw write ups across the media. The Telegraph published an op-ed from Dr. Madsen Pirie: Most neoliberals are optimistic, thinking the world is better than it was and will become better still. They have confidence tha

www.adamsmith.org

Of course, the Chicago schoolers fit the bill as well

 

[Seeds]

Out and proud, the ASI are neoliberals now — Adam Smith Institute

Coming out as the first self proclaimed neoliberal think tank this week the ASI saw write ups across the media. The Telegraph published an op-ed from Dr. Madsen Pirie: Most neoliberals are optimistic, thinking the world is better than it was and will become better still. They have confidence tha

www.adamsmith.org

Of course, the Chicago schoolers fit the bill as well

True. They are a close match to what i think people often refer to as neoliberalism. But dont really think they exist anymore. Atleast not in economic circles. The good arguments from the chicago school have been merged with the good arguments from keynesianism. The bad arguments of both are now rejected.

 

[barreness]

True. They are a close match to what i think people often refer to as neoliberalism. But dont really think they exist anymore. Atleast not in economic circles. The good arguments from the chicago school have been merged with the good arguments from keynesianism. The bad arguments of both are now rejected.

Yeh it's been great to see all those natural monopolies being re-nationalised, austerity measures being thrown out and the like. I guess you could view the trade war with china being a re-regulation of capital markets but that would be a long bow.

Which bad arguments of neoliberalism and keynesianism did you have in mind?