No. 1 Pick

[Runandhyde]

Providing we get it who should we pick up? Looks to be a 2 horse race at the moment in either Kreuzer or Cotchin. Who do we pick up the star ruckman or mid?

 

[Runandhyde]

For me Cotchin. Clearly need more class in the mid field. Having Foley, Lids, Bling, Cotchin, Edwards all running through the centre in a few years will make for some bloody exciting footy!

 

[Richo for PM]

what about young palmer (i think that was his name) for W.A. Kicked 5 goals and had 30 off posessions.
never heard of this kid before but he did play well and could have just been a one off.
I'de say its probably too early to tell who to pick and it depends on what the coaching staff think is more important - our midfield is quite poor (not including coughlan and foley and lids) and our ruck stocks r depleted (i dont think knobel will play again)

 

[Heisenberg_]

If we don't take Kruezer our entire football department should get the arse, he is the clear stand out 199cm midfielders that move as well as him don't grow on trees

 

[Brooksy88]

For me Cotchin. Clearly need more class in the mid field. Having Foley, Lids, Bling, Cotchin, Edwards all running through the centre in a few years will make for some bloody exciting footy!

as much as i would like to see that midfield as well, there is no point if they dont have a good tap ruckman hitting it down to them. patto as hard as he tries is not a ruckman (he is good around the grounds but not so much in the ball-ups) and simmo is undersized so once he gets a bit older and loses his leap he will no longer be effective.
Kruezer for me.

 

[krustyman]

neither, palmer is the real player we want, the vic metro side got flogged by wa.

 

[Brooksy88]

what about young palmer (i think that was his name) for W.A. Kicked 5 goals and had 30 off posessions.
never heard of this kid before but he did play well and could have just been a one off.
I'de say its probably too early to tell who to pick and it depends on what the coaching staff think is more important - our midfield is quite poor (not including coughlan and foley and lids) and our ruck stocks r depleted (i dont think knobel will play again)

palmer was not a one off, he will be drafted but he will not be considered for number 1. his team mate chris masten is possibly better than cotchin i have heard but only got to see a little of the game yesterday and thats all i've seen of him. look out for him though.

 

[Richo for PM]

palmer was not a one off, he will be drafted but he will not be considered for number 1. his team mate chris masten is possibly better than cotchin i have heard but only got to see a little of the game yesterday and thats all i've seen of him. look out for him though.

yeh ive heard masten goes alright but didnt notice him during the game

 

[Heisenberg_]

neither, palmer is the real player we want, the vic metro side got flogged by wa.

No we don't

 

[Richo for PM]

i also think cotchin was being tagged so that could be why he didnt really dominate, while palmer pretty much ran free the whole day

 

[Brooksy88]

yeh ive heard masten goes alright but didnt notice him during the game

yeh he didnt stand out but he did have the 2nd most possies on the ground behind palmer, he was tagged also but managed to break through it unlike cotchin.

 

[HBK619]

I think that we would be able to draft a good classy middie somewhere else in the draft, Kruezer is just too good to pass up, he will start to come good just when Simmo is winding down his carrer, we could just rely on Patto and go for Cotchin then a Ruckman in the second round, but I would feel much more safer going with Kruezer.

 

[The BRICKSTER]

That Palmer guy ran free all day i did nt think he was that specail, You could see that Cotchin had flashes of class about him early in the 1st and 2Qrts. This kid has had the biggest raps on him since as year as like U15. I believe it will be vary hard to pick between him or Krezuer because either way one is going to be a tad better than the other in the long run thats a given. That was only one game we have actually seen of Cotchin i presume he will get better as the championchips go on. Personally i love to get Cotchin because one of his idols is Deledio, both are very similar players imagine having deledio X2

 

[_RT_]

It depends on a number of factors like who we delist, who we can trade for/get in the PSD & how many picks we have in the top 20 (we may still get a PP).

For mine if we have picks 1, 17 & 19 then I think we should take Kruezer at 1(at this stage rated the best by the experts) and then look at taking a good hard bodied inside midfielder at 17 then perhaps a young KP defender at 19, gives us 1 player in each of the 3 areas we need to focus on.

If we have picks 2, 18 & 20 then we will most likely take Cotchin (rated 2nd best at this stage according to the experts) then perhaps look at a ruckman like Bellchambers at 18 then the KP defender at 20. Again getting us what we need as I don't think we are in position to be just picking the best available talent with our picks considering the holes in our list.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Get Kruezer. We have a pretty promising midfield of Foley, Polo and Jackson. Coughlan will be back and Tuck will be fitter next year too

 

[nugget_12]

Kruzer should be our target!

we need a ruckman and he is not only the best he is as good as a midfielder aswell.

im not really fussed about our other picks all i want to see in the yellow and black next year is Kruzer and Neville from coburg, he could play midfield straight away. dont care where we take him JUST DO IT RICHMOND!!!!!!

should have taken him last year. (No Room For Both King And Neville On The List My Arse! Plenty For Kent Though Isn't There?)

 

[Richo for PM]

how was the ruckman for W.A
lol great hair

 

[tigers71]

I would like to get Kruzer as we need to get a ruckman. I would like a ruckman similar to Cox from West Coast. He dominates by palming it down to Judd. Imagine Kruzer taps the ball down to Axel, Cogs and Tuck that would be awesome. We have to keep tanking the games Seriously we need to strengthen the ruck area. As the Brisbane Lions have five ruckmen. So in essende the choice is an easy one

Kruser

 

[lids2004roar]

If struggling to break a tag is a regular issue with Cotchin then maybe our chances of picking him up would take a bit more of a hit than you'd think.

Think about it, is it worth using 2 number one picks on players who can't break a tag? That's a lot of investment on players who get shut out so easily (if that is the case with Cotchin, can't judge him on one game).

Hopefully Deledio can overcome this weakness soon enough because he was looking almost elite recently. Cotchin has a lot of class and I'd be happier to pick up an elite midfielder than an elite ruckman.

It'd be awesome if we went for Grimes or Masten (if they slipped to a later pick, wouldn't take either at 1) because we need to draft players with more leadership. Morton looked alright too.


Watching the Championships the other day it really goes to show how very difficult it would be to rank all of those players in order from 1 to last. Recruiting is a very tough game.

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

In my opinion Kreuzer is the standout pick. If I were an opposition coach I could tag good midfielders out of the game. But a 199cm guy that could run, mark and ruck would be a headache for me. He is exactly what is missing at the club. Don't worry about the championships too much. Franklin had a very poor series back in 2004, and look at him now. If you are tall, athletic and can play you are very hard to stop.......you know how the saying goes.....a good big man will beat a good little man any time!

 

[Bojangles17]

If we don't take Kruezer our entire football department should get the arse, he is the clear stand out 199cm midfielders that move as well as him don't grow on trees

well, we kept on paying the lunatic that read fioras name out ahead of Pavlich for many years after that

 

[Heisenberg_]

well, we kept on paying the lunatic that read fioras name out ahead of Pavlich for many years after that

My hate for Frawley is only rivaled by Greg Beck

 

[jumpinjimmy]

well, we kept on paying the lunatic that read fioras name out ahead of Pavlich for many years after that

Yeah the Tambling/Franklin kerfuffle is somewhat excusable but that will go down in RFC history a probably our biggest and most transparent blunder. What is Beck doing now?

 

[astro_toby]

i think we should go with the ruckman - if he moves as well as they say he does - he can play forward and back also - till he develops the appropriate strength & mass to not get beaten up in the ruck.

if we do get him - should we still go for one / or both or charman and meesen?

 

[Weaver]

Kreuzer is a certainty. His second efforts, ground level work, and ability to follow the play are superb.

I have said it before - Cotchin is not a real midfielder. He is a classy, magical HF like Brown or Didak. Yes great to have but doesn't solve any midfield problems.

Pick 1 will be Kruezer. Any debate is artificial.