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Guys! Guys... hey, guys. Guys, hear me out. This one is left field, but I reckon it holds water.

Mitch is gone, Frawley is gone. Obviously, that's a bummer. However, I have an ingenious plan which I think will solve all of our problems.

1. Upgrade Mr Bean.
2. Send Hogan to Full Back ("Whaaaaat!??" I hear you cry!).
3. Send... drum roll please ... Tom McDonald to Centre Half Forward.

Why? Glad you asked.

a) We need another tall defender, and Georgiou did a serviceable job this year.
b) We always put our kids under too much pressure, destroying their confidence before they've even got a chance to get started. You only have to look at the performance of Essendon's young KPP's to see the difference in confidence that playing in the backline generates compared to the forward line. There's less scrutiny on key backs, it's a fact. Let's not put Hogan back 4 or 5 years like Hurley by making him the focal point of the forward line at 19 years of age. Let him get up to speed at AFL level taking the second or third forward in defence.
c i) TMac has had a good couple of years in defence and built up his confidence. He's starting to get noticed around the league as a KPP with potential, and he speaks to the media with the tone of a man who's confident and comfortable - which means he can handle some extra pressure.
c ii) The guy has a tank the size of Phar Lap. He's basically the only key back in the league who can run with Saint Nick. That also means there are no key backs in the league who could run with him if he played as a forward.
c iii) The guy makes terrible decisions with the ball in hand. He can kick accurately enough, but too often he tries to land the ball on a five cent piece from 50m away with 5 opposition players zoned around it. As a result, he's a turnover machine. When you're in the forward fifty, suddenly the decision becomes a lot easier. Kick it between the big sticks. He's a good enough kick to do that, I reckon. That, and if/when he does turn it over, at least it's 100m+ from our goal, so our defence has at least a bit of time to try to repel the counterattack. At the moment, when he muffs one, it's straight back over his head for a goal.

I first suggested that TMac would make a great CHF about two years ago, and I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. Give a whirl, Roos. You can pay me later.
 
Guys! Guys... hey, guys. Guys, hear me out. This one is left field, but I reckon it holds water.

Mitch is gone, Frawley is gone. Obviously, that's a bummer. However, I have an ingenious plan which I think will solve all of our problems.

1. Upgrade Mr Bean.
2. Send Hogan to Full Back ("Whaaaaat!??" I hear you cry!).
3. Send... drum roll please ... Tom McDonald to Centre Half Forward.

Why? Glad you asked.

a) We need another tall defender, and Georgiou did a serviceable job this year.
b) We always put our kids under too much pressure, destroying their confidence before they've even got a chance to get started. You only have to look at the performance of Essendon's young KPP's to see the difference in confidence that playing in the backline generates compared to the forward line. There's less scrutiny on key backs, it's a fact. Let's not put Hogan back 4 or 5 years like Hurley by making him the focal point of the forward line at 19 years of age. Let him get up to speed at AFL level taking the second or third forward in defence.
c i) TMac has had a good couple of years in defence and built up his confidence. He's starting to get noticed around the league as a KPP with potential, and he speaks to the media with the tone of a man who's confident and comfortable - which means he can handle some extra pressure.
c ii) The guy has a tank the size of Phar Lap. He's basically the only key back in the league who can run with Saint Nick. That also means there are no key backs in the league who could run with him if he played as a forward.
c iii) The guy makes terrible decisions with the ball in hand. He can kick accurately enough, but too often he tries to land the ball on a five cent piece from 50m away with 5 opposition players zoned around it. As a result, he's a turnover machine. When you're in the forward fifty, suddenly the decision becomes a lot easier. Kick it between the big sticks. He's a good enough kick to do that, I reckon. That, and if/when he does turn it over, at least it's 100m+ from our goal, so our defence has at least a bit of time to try to repel the counterattack. At the moment, when he muffs one, it's straight back over his head for a goal.

I first suggested that TMac would make a great CHF about two years ago, and I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. Give a whirl, Roos. You can pay me later.
Might need to lay off the grass for a few weeks mate.
 

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Might need to lay off the grass for a few weeks mate.
As someone currently high I think I can act as spokesman for those on the grass. Still a shit idea. Ignoring the TMac thing, Hogan is a forward, born forward, will die a forward. He doesn't need to bulk up/harden up/learn his trade/do an apprenticeship. He needs to be fit and plonked in the 50 from whence he can roam as he sees fit. I'm going to start hunting down and bitch slapping people suggesting he play in defense.
 
As someone currently high I think I can act as spokesman for those on the grass. Still a shit idea. Ignoring the TMac thing, Hogan is a forward, born forward, will die a forward. He doesn't need to bulk up/harden up/learn his trade/do an apprenticeship. He needs to be fit and plonked in the 50 from whence he can roam as he sees fit. I'm going to start hunting down and bitch slapping people suggesting he play in defense.
Depends - if Clark stays playing Hogan in defence for the first few weeks wouldn't be the worst thing. It'd give him a chance to acclimatise at AFL level playing as the third tall in defence, with either Dunn or Garland forward.
 
Hogan is a forward, born forward, will die a forward.

That's not in the least bit true. He's played in the backline as a junior, and if the last few years has taught us anything it's that players who can make themselves useful right across the whole field are the best asset you can have. The Harry Taylor swingman, the Jarryd Roughhead huge midfielder, etc. If Hoges really is the business, he's highly unlikely to spend his whole career in the goal square.

And, dare I say it, you're talking up Hogan in exactly the way us Dees have talked up Watts, Scully, and others in the past. Hogan is a big talent, and a great prospect to be sure... but if you bank on him being a superstar from day dot, statistics dictates that you are most likely to be gravely disappointed.
 
Or he could just play the position the gods created him to play. He isn't a frightened teenage Jack Watts.
He played defence as a junior so it wouldn't be entirely new to him. If it worked for Neita it's good enough for Hogan.
 
I mean seriously, explain to me how 20 year old Hogan is any different to 20 year old Hurley, albeit with one extra pre-season and one less actual season of experience into him. Hurley was the second coming of the Lord, if the pundits were to be believed.
 
That's not in the least bit true. He's played in the backline as a junior, and if the last few years has taught us anything it's that players who can make themselves useful right across the whole field are the best asset you can have. The Harry Taylor swingman, the Jarryd Roughhead huge midfielder, etc. If Hoges really is the business, he's highly unlikely to spend his whole career in the goal square.

And, dare I say it, you're talking up Hogan in exactly the way us Dees have talked up Watts, Scully, and others in the past. Hogan is a big talent, and a great prospect to be sure... but if you bank on him being a superstar from day dot, statistics dictates that you are most likely to be gravely disappointed.
And if we draft McCartin it would be extremely useful to have Hogan capable of playing as a key defender as well as a key forward. Especially when we lose Frawley, and if we miss out on Sam Frost.
 
Have you guys watched Hogan? He's going to walk into the team as the best forward. His instincts are impeccable. Neitz played back because he wasn't in our best three forwards. Playing Hogan in defense where we have plenty of guys when we have No Hands Dawes as our best forward would be insane. He's a natural forward.
 

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Have you guys watched Hogan? He's going to walk into the team as the best forward. His instincts are impeccable. Neitz played back because he wasn't in our best three forwards. Playing Hogan in defense where we have plenty of guys when we have No Hands Dawes as our best forward would be insane. He's a natural forward.
Yeah like I said I'd only do it if Clark decides to be a traitor. Hogan is hardly going to star from day 1 though - at best he'll kick a goal a game. If Fitzpatrick continues his late season form even he'd be a better short term #1 target.
 
Hogan was better than Fitz as a seventeen year old. :p
In the VFL. Seniors is a different game, he's going to need a few weeks to get up to speed. Better to do that in defence as the third tall like I said, than in offence where he'd be under the microscope every week and copping the blame for our inability to kick goals, despite it being the fault of the midfield.
 
Not the worst idea re: McDonald I reckon. Still think Hogan should be playing full forward though. Dawes... Dawes goes. I like it.
 
Get Frost.

Upgrade Mr Bean.

Play Howe back up forward, where he belongs.

McDonald as a possible swingman.
 

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Where does Will Minson come into this?
We're reverting to a 1-man list. Our entire current squad + Roos will be traded to the Bulldogs for Minson, who will play every single position on the field and coach.
 
We're reverting to a 1-man list. Our entire current squad + Roos will be traded to the Bulldogs for Minson, who will play every single position on the field and coach.

If Adelaide don't beat us to the punch first. I believe Sanderson getting sacked is the first step. Minson holds all the cards.
 
Percentage of Melbourne first round draft picks who have fulfilled this kind of prophecy in the last... well, ever:

None.
You guys have gone off the derp end tonight.
 

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