Not fighting back..

[Thrice3]

Could all those years of being told to lift and not actually do it but rubbing off on Terry?

Im under the impression the senior players are so immune to not lifting when the game is in the balance or to get back into the game when Frawley was coaching that the players don't know how to react after a rev from Terry, or just they feel that it is acceptable to not fight back due to the mentality instilled by Frawley..
After seeing 0 fight back on Sunday, that is the message Im getting.
Your thoughts?

 

[JohnF]

The general feeling that TW had was that it was a confidence issue.

He said the players had built up a thin layer of confidence over the preseason with a few wins but that once the pressure was applied and things didn't seem to be going as they should, that thin layer of confidence was shattered and the players didn't believe they could win.

Personally I think its an issue of the players not bieng good enough. Confidence has nothing to do with the likes of Gaspar, Kellaway, Chaffey, Richo and Hall disposing the ball like crap. They've always done it and they will always do it.

We were competitive for a while but as soon as we started turning the ball over with every second kick we had we never recovered. This is not a confidence issue but a skill issue. And we lack the players that can execute skillful plays on a consistent basis. Yeah maybe we can keep the clangers down for a quarter or two, but eventually we cough up the ball.

We did lose confidence after we started making mistakes, but the mistakes came before the confidence left, not after it.

 

[madtiger2005]

In the first quarter we had about 5 very poor kicking errors under no pressure and the last time I saw us make 5 errors so bad in one quarter was last years wizard cup game against St Kilda. To say we do that in a quarter every week is a complete exhaggeration. I would expect 1 maybe 2 mistakes like that in a quarter occasionally, but not 5. We had a one of those bad skill quaters where all mistakes came in a short time, but the fact is we matched Geelong and we honestly should have been a couple of goals up at quarter time, not 2 goals down. So on most weeks I would have expected us to be winning. So this proves that when he are playing to our game plan and everyone is in their best positions, we are good to watch. We outplayed Geelong for 20 minutes and our errors let them back in and gave them the lead.

I think that Terrys midfield changes for the second quarter was the first big killer. He changed a winning midfield into a weak midfield and we got punished. To add to that the players lost confidence and discipline and allowed Geelong to have loose players all over the ground. I expect Terry to learn from his mistake and he will make the players learn from theirs. He is still learning about our players and very soon I expect us to play alot more competitve quarters such as the first quarter against the cats more regularly. I wouldn't be expecting so many kicking errors in one quarter either.

 

[bluehouse]

Spot on John F

Although Richo doesn't usually get the opportunity to pass the ball to a teammate.

I am still concerned about the midfield - Madtiger might have a point as well

Our centre clearances were non existent