Older generations have bigger hands

[Always Ballin]

Especially manual laborer types. Obviously height and hand size are correlated to a degree.. And the younger generations are getting taller due to sexual selective practices and being farther removed from more food scarce times (Great depression, WW1/WW2)... I think anyways. Somebody fact-check me on this.

We like to believe this idea that man is continually growing taller and stronger but it's not quite true. Our hunter gatherer ancestors pre-agricultural/farming were taller, more robust with greater musculature and bone mineral density. Farming made resources plentiful but they were of a lesser nutrient quality. Activity and lifestyle also became more sedentary comparatively.

The early modern human hunter gatherers were physically on another tier to us. But then again there's always a bigger beast. Our hominid ancestors that preceded the early modern humans would crush them. So on so forth.

I am getting off track.

I see it everyday. These thin-wristed pencil neck millennials who got the length but not the girth. Guys that resemble the blow-up mascot outside a car dealership...

Then I see these old codgers who did tours in Nam. Sturdy built. Large heads, big hands, strong torsos. Girth, check.

Guys who look like this

Strong built lads.


Compare Scotty Cam and his son

The old man makes the young buck look weak as piss. Look how narrow built his son is compared to him. Scotty looks like Brock Lesnar. Look at the form and size of the heads.

How did a tank of a man like that, produce a hotdog head like that?

That's not the work of genetics. It's environmental.



Kids these days are more sedentary than ever. Everything is at the touch or swipe of the smartphone. Why go outside and play when y'all can Fortnite with the lads online without leaving your bedroom?

Technology had played the pivotal role in the rise of sedentary lifestyles.

So I don't think what I'm suggesting is too out of the ball park. It wasn't that long ago phones and the internet didn't exist... Okay maybe it is kind of... Still feel like it's the early 2000's.

Them baby boomers and gen x-ers were far more physically active from the moment they were born. Nothing controversial said here,

To tie it back to bone structure, growth and physical development.. I'll connect the dots between lifestyle and growth...


Sedentary behaviours and its association with bone mass in adolescents: the HELENA cross-sectional study

"The use of internet for non-study (in boys) and the time spent studying (in girls) are negatively associated with whole body and femoral neck BMC, respectively. In addition, at least 3 h/week of extra-curricular osteogenic sports may help to counteract the negative association of time spent studying on bone health in girls."

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-12-971

dddddd


We always talk about how athletes are getting bigger, faster, stronger, better.. But to me it's just the drugs and training protocols. In fact I think they're getting worse from a genetic standpoint. Inheriting genetics from generations becoming increasingly more sedentary. It's subtle. Nutrient density of foods has declined as well. The boomers really did get to enjoy the golden era.

I also see this phenomena with country people, and why they're so successful in AFL and other sports (Mid-West NFL players)... There's always a cultural aspect, BUT working, living, growing up on a farm consuming higher quality nutrients.. In a way it's like living how everyone used to. Less sedentary. More active. Eating better. Manual laborers/tradies seem to fit this bill too.

That explanation for good athletic genes, "I grew up on a farm" is more true than most of us realize.




Well I don't know why I spent the last hour writing this. Older people have better bone structure with larger hands relative to height. Young people are looking more and more frail with small, dainty hands.

 

[exe ex machina]

Did someone mention girth?

 

[perthblue]

they look like fat old bastards

 

[DroopStDanny]

Wish Scott Cam would use his big hands to punch himself in the face.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I think if you look at those beach photos from the 50s of young men all down the beach, they were rake thin too. That image to me is taut shoulders, minimal body fat, and naturally fit... not this gym bro fit that people go for now.

But yes the bean pole build is very interesting, definitely haven't looked at it from that angle.

The height thing is a little overstated but in my opinion instead of they're being most men being 5'10-6'1 with a gradual bell curve either way, it seems way more slanted toward like... a lot more 6'0-6'2 but there's a pattern where 5'7 and below guys seem almost more common. Maybe you notice them more. It's not a consistent sort of pool, there are spikes at certain groups. It's not even. I wonder what that shit's about.

Girls is an insane one too. I walk past kids who are barely ten years younger than me and sometimes... it's like they all ****ing congregate. I walked past about five girls who would've been 16/17 and they were all pushing 6'0 and the blokes were over that. Insane.

Most importantly, male sperm count is decreasing at insane levels and it's not just for humans. The biological side-effects are affecting frogs et al and it's fundamentally ****ing up their existence and the wider biodiversity. It's going to be interesting to see how birth rates go in 20-30 years. I wonder how easy it will be for men to have kids? I mean I wonder if sex rates are going down, if stuff like sexual partners is decreasing, length of sex getting shorter, all this sort of thing.

I've long thought things balance out and for every cure there is some modern ailment. You can fix this, have pills for that, but plights like obesity, mental health is absolutely crooked, stress is up there too and then there's the stuff we haven't even seen yet from what we eat/what we're near. I wonder if things like growing height will be cancelled out by something else?

 

[Silent Alarm]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/li...t/news-story/1da72799deb50cc3188d876609e7f67b

This is an interesting article... look at this 18-year old! He looks like a 26-year old limp wristed Melbourne Uni accountant.

I wonder if blokes are going to age quicker? Or people in general? Will 25-year olds in ten years look way older?

Puberty for boys is starting at 13 now and girls are having their periods at the same age, whereas a hundred years ago it was 16-17.

Kids are actually looking taller because they're hitting their growth spurts earlier, so instead of being tall year 12s they're all tall year 9s and 10s. The average male height for 16-24 year old's is still only 177cm... that's not massive. It's probably pulled down due to a heap more immigration and immigration coming from Asia, India, etc. and not places like the UK.

There's also a really interesting comment, at the top, on there about man boobs, aka gynecomastia. Gynecomastia isn't just being fat, it's literal breast tissue that develops. It's normal for boys to have it during puberty as their chemicals are all imbalanced but generally it goes. These days it's one of the most common plastic surgery procedures and it's done to a lot of blokes under 30. I wonder what the **** it is? I'm telling you, it's not the morbid obesity and Fight Club man-boobs, these are little A cups. Go to the beach or even, in summer, look at the amount of blokes who have very noticeable droops, pulls, and shapes under t-shirts. Yes it is affecting men in their 50s, who have lower testosterone and that drops and naturally the body loses some natural way of handling shit, plus weight... but it wasn't there years ago, I swear. It's amazing how common this is becoming.

 

[GreyCrow]

All the better to smack millenials in the back of the head

 

[Jobe Watson]

Only natural. We are no longer hunter gatherers - strength and physical prowess are no longer necessary survival tools. We have machines to do all the hard work for us. The world has very little use for burly meatheads anymore. Get intellectually swole instead.

Who'd want to be super tall and built in this day and age anyway? The world is becoming more and more cramped and overpopulated. Apartments and houses are getting smaller. Public transport becoming more congested. The manlet physique is the way of the future. Don't @ me.

 

[Benny78]

That's why I gave myself Tourettes by allowing myself to get bitten by a genetically engineered tick. I just sit there at the pc and before I know it my muscles convulse and they get a work out. Which is why I am buff like a turkey.

 

[Always Ballin]

Only natural. We are no longer hunter gatherers - strength and physical prowess are no longer necessary survival tools. We have machines to do all the hard work for us. The world has very little use for burly meatheads anymore. Get intellectually swole instead.

Who'd want to be super tall and built in this day and age anyway? The world is becoming more and more cramped and overpopulated. Apartments and houses are getting smaller. Public transport becoming more congested. The manlet physique is the way of the future. Don't @ me.

 

[ioppolo]

Yeah I'm one of them new age manlet builds.

Skinny arms, 5'7'', sort of the Jarrod Grant mould, but I could actually get some muscle tone when I used to lift.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

Where to start with the misinformed op

Farmers don't marry sluts. They marry strong women. This is why they breed well. They don't marry guys either. Strong wives and strong children are very important to the farmer

A farmers lad is more likely to suicide or kill himself on a motorbike or in a car accident than a city slicker nerd found on forums like this

 

[class78]

Where to start with the misinformed op

Farmers don't marry sluts. They marry strong women. This is why they breed well. They don't marry guys either. Strong wives and strong children are very important to the farmer

A farmers lad is more likely to suicide or kill himself on a motorbike or in a car accident than a city slicker nerd found on forums like this

farmers are more likely to marry their own family members

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

farmers are more likely to marry their own family members

That's murica not straya

 

[Silent Alarm]

Most farmers I knew were very narrow minded, very insular 'folk' who weren't very intellectual and had a genuine fear of outsiders and things like that. They aren't stoic types at all. Look at the amount of them bitching and moaning now.

Also if you're going to stereotype and say they marry 'strong women' (wtf does this mean? Sarah Perkins?) then I'd counter that... look at the amount of senile farmers who shack up with Thai women. If you're talking about stuff like body shape then that's not going to help a son, is it?

 

[M Malice]

farmers are more likely to marry their own family members

Particularly 2 headed Tasmanian farmers.

 

[DickieKnee]

Especially manual laborer types. Obviously height and hand size are correlated to a degree.. And the younger generations are getting taller due to sexual selective practices and being farther removed from more food scarce times (Great depression, WW1/WW2)... I think anyways. Somebody fact-check me on this.

We like to believe this idea that man is continually growing taller and stronger but it's not quite true. Our hunter gatherer ancestors pre-agricultural/farming were taller, more robust with greater musculature and bone mineral density. Farming made resources plentiful but they were of a lesser nutrient quality. Activity and lifestyle also became more sedentary comparatively.

The early modern human hunter gatherers were physically on another tier to us. But then again there's always a bigger beast. Our hominid ancestors that preceded the early modern humans would crush them. So on so forth.

I am getting off track.

I see it everyday. These thin-wristed pencil neck millennials who got the length but not the girth. Guys that resemble the blow-up mascot outside a car dealership...

Then I see these old codgers who did tours in Nam. Sturdy built. Large heads, big hands, strong torsos. Girth, check.

Guys who look like this

Strong built lads.


Compare Scotty Cam and his son

The old man makes the young buck look weak as piss. Look how narrow built his son is compared to him. Scotty looks like Brock Lesnar. Look at the form and size of the heads.

How did a tank of a man like that, produce a hotdog head like that?

That's not the work of genetics. It's environmental.



Kids these days are more sedentary than ever. Everything is at the touch or swipe of the smartphone. Why go outside and play when y'all can Fortnite with the lads online without leaving your bedroom?

Technology had played the pivotal role in the rise of sedentary lifestyles.

So I don't think what I'm suggesting is too out of the ball park. It wasn't that long ago phones and the internet didn't exist... Okay maybe it is kind of... Still feel like it's the early 2000's.

Them baby boomers and gen x-ers were far more physically active from the moment they were born. Nothing controversial said here,

To tie it back to bone structure, growth and physical development.. I'll connect the dots between lifestyle and growth...


Sedentary behaviours and its association with bone mass in adolescents: the HELENA cross-sectional study

"The use of internet for non-study (in boys) and the time spent studying (in girls) are negatively associated with whole body and femoral neck BMC, respectively. In addition, at least 3 h/week of extra-curricular osteogenic sports may help to counteract the negative association of time spent studying on bone health in girls."

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-12-971

dddddd


We always talk about how athletes are getting bigger, faster, stronger, better.. But to me it's just the drugs and training protocols. In fact I think they're getting worse from a genetic standpoint. Inheriting genetics from generations becoming increasingly more sedentary. It's subtle. Nutrient density of foods has declined as well. The boomers really did get to enjoy the golden era.

I also see this phenomena with country people, and why they're so successful in AFL and other sports (Mid-West NFL players)... There's always a cultural aspect, BUT working, living, growing up on a farm consuming higher quality nutrients.. In a way it's like living how everyone used to. Less sedentary. More active. Eating better. Manual laborers/tradies seem to fit this bill too.

That explanation for good athletic genes, "I grew up on a farm" is more true than most of us realize.




Well I don't know why I spent the last hour writing this. Older people have better bone structure with larger hands relative to height. Young people are looking more and more frail with small, dainty hands.

You've obviously put a lot of thought and effort into your theory. But I'm afraid to say it's flawed. There are lots of old campaigners with little hands.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Using a Trump gif in a thread about older blokes having bigger hands....

lol

 

[Restricted Free Agent]

I'm 14, 5,11 and my hands are massive. Fake news

 

[Always Ballin]

Using a Trump gif in a thread about older blokes having bigger hands....

lol

 

[RU_]

22, 6 foot 3, 115 kegs of muscle.


.. yeah okay I like chocolate but I still lift daily?

 

[Back One Out]

Dainty little hands aren't necessarily a bad thing

They make your **** look bigger when you're having a tug

 

[perthblue]

Dainty little hands aren't necessarily a bad thing

They make your **** look bigger when you're having a tug

why is this important?

 

[Brad Goodman]

I always found the OP a little odd. Now it's a lot odd.

 

[Coolangatta]

Hope this will be your first article for alphamail.com.