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This is not even banter. I am actually serious. Read on.
Why is everyone, in particular Manchester United fans, giving Ole a hard time? All I hear is “this is Manchester United”, “Manchester United is too big for Ole, “Manchester United need a manager that will win it league titles”, etc etc.
Don’t let Alex Ferguson’s success blind you in any way. Ole is doing things the Manchester United way. Let’s have a look at the league titles won by Man Utd.
1907–08, 1910–11 – all under the management of Ernest Mangnall (noting that 98% of Man Utd fans have never read or heard of this name).
1951–52, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67 – all under the management of Matt Busby (mind you, a Liverpool captain).
1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13 – all under the management of Alex Ferguson. .
Manchester United was founded in 1878 as Newton Heath. Excluding Ole, in its entire 143 years of existence, it has had 24 managers. However only three, just 3 managers, have guided Manchester United to the league title. Again, I ask the question, why is everyone giving Ole a hard time? He is doing what 87.5% of Man Utd’s previous managers have done in the past. He is keeping Man Utd competitive without making them good enough to win the league title. Again, no different to 21 other managers of Man Utd.
So when United fans say “we need a new manager”, who exactly do they have in mind because let’s face it, based on the numbers, their best bet is to go back to Alex Ferguson. On average, United has a league title winning manager every 47.5 years. Yet the United fans carry on as if somehow Ole is a different specie to 87.5% of the managers United has had in its entire history. The numbers don’t lie. In its first 114, years, United won 7 league titles. Thirteen league titles then came very quicky under one manager in a 25 year period, which in statistical terms, is an outlier, and in the 9 years that have followed since Ferguson’s retirement, the United fans have acted all entitled when truth be told, for most of its history, Man Utd has gone without and Ole is doing no different to what 21 other managers of Manchester United have done in the past.
Completely entitled behaviour, is it not?.
For comparison purposes, compare with Liverpool FC, noting that I am only going as far back as the 1960s to make it seem somewhat comparable: Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish and Klopp have all managed Liverpool to the league title. An honorary mention to Benitez, who managed Liverpool to the Champions League title.
Basically, if you’re a manager looking to win England’s league title, Liverpool is your club of destination. Convince the owners to invest in the squad, because yes, Liverpool’s owners fleece profits out of LFC too, and you have a greater chance of winning the league title for Liverpool than you do for Manchester United.
Another thing to consider is this:
Man Utd, established 1878, 143 years old, 20 league titles and 3 Champions League/European Cup titles equals 23 titles that earn you contract extensions and/or save your job, equals on average a trophy of that kind every 6.2 years.
Liverpool FC, established 1892, 129 years old, 19 league titles and 6 Champions League/European Cup titles equals 25 titles that earn you contract extensions and/or save your job, equals on average a trophy of that kind every 5.1 years.
Change my mind. The numbers don’t lie. Liverpool has more league title winning managers, more Champions League/European Cup winning managers, more major trophies and wins these major trophies more frequently than any other club in England. So don’t go giving Ole a hard time, he is only doing what is, afterall, the Newton Heath / Manchester United way.
That is all.
Why is everyone, in particular Manchester United fans, giving Ole a hard time? All I hear is “this is Manchester United”, “Manchester United is too big for Ole, “Manchester United need a manager that will win it league titles”, etc etc.
Don’t let Alex Ferguson’s success blind you in any way. Ole is doing things the Manchester United way. Let’s have a look at the league titles won by Man Utd.
1907–08, 1910–11 – all under the management of Ernest Mangnall (noting that 98% of Man Utd fans have never read or heard of this name).
1951–52, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67 – all under the management of Matt Busby (mind you, a Liverpool captain).
1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13 – all under the management of Alex Ferguson. .
Manchester United was founded in 1878 as Newton Heath. Excluding Ole, in its entire 143 years of existence, it has had 24 managers. However only three, just 3 managers, have guided Manchester United to the league title. Again, I ask the question, why is everyone giving Ole a hard time? He is doing what 87.5% of Man Utd’s previous managers have done in the past. He is keeping Man Utd competitive without making them good enough to win the league title. Again, no different to 21 other managers of Man Utd.
So when United fans say “we need a new manager”, who exactly do they have in mind because let’s face it, based on the numbers, their best bet is to go back to Alex Ferguson. On average, United has a league title winning manager every 47.5 years. Yet the United fans carry on as if somehow Ole is a different specie to 87.5% of the managers United has had in its entire history. The numbers don’t lie. In its first 114, years, United won 7 league titles. Thirteen league titles then came very quicky under one manager in a 25 year period, which in statistical terms, is an outlier, and in the 9 years that have followed since Ferguson’s retirement, the United fans have acted all entitled when truth be told, for most of its history, Man Utd has gone without and Ole is doing no different to what 21 other managers of Manchester United have done in the past.
Completely entitled behaviour, is it not?.
For comparison purposes, compare with Liverpool FC, noting that I am only going as far back as the 1960s to make it seem somewhat comparable: Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish and Klopp have all managed Liverpool to the league title. An honorary mention to Benitez, who managed Liverpool to the Champions League title.
Basically, if you’re a manager looking to win England’s league title, Liverpool is your club of destination. Convince the owners to invest in the squad, because yes, Liverpool’s owners fleece profits out of LFC too, and you have a greater chance of winning the league title for Liverpool than you do for Manchester United.
Another thing to consider is this:
Man Utd, established 1878, 143 years old, 20 league titles and 3 Champions League/European Cup titles equals 23 titles that earn you contract extensions and/or save your job, equals on average a trophy of that kind every 6.2 years.
Liverpool FC, established 1892, 129 years old, 19 league titles and 6 Champions League/European Cup titles equals 25 titles that earn you contract extensions and/or save your job, equals on average a trophy of that kind every 5.1 years.
Change my mind. The numbers don’t lie. Liverpool has more league title winning managers, more Champions League/European Cup winning managers, more major trophies and wins these major trophies more frequently than any other club in England. So don’t go giving Ole a hard time, he is only doing what is, afterall, the Newton Heath / Manchester United way.
That is all.
