Ottens is going nowhere!!!!!

[itsintheblood]

Ottens 'should stay a Tiger'
By Lyall Johnson
September 23, 2004




Brad Ottens: asked to take pay cut.

Richmond is confident out-of-contract ruckman Brad Ottens has "every reason" to stay at the club despite being asked to accept a pay cut believed to be more than $120,000.

Due largely to injury, Ottens has performed well below expectation in the past two years. This year did not poll a Brownlow vote.

The Sydney Swans, with up to a $1 million buffer under their salary-cap restriction, have spoken to Ottens and Geelong is also believed to be a strong contender for Ottens' services with significant room to move under the salary cap.

Yet according to Greg Miller, Richmond's director of football, Ottens, who until the end of this season was on a reputed $450,000 a year, feels an obligation to the Tigers, who have looked after him through injury and poor form. "We think Brad's got every reason to stay and no reason to leave," Miller said last night. "We think the relationship is good. He's one of the leaders of our club and he understands his pay had to come back a little bit.

"We've made a good offer to him - not as much as he used to get paid - but I think that's fair enough under the circumstances and he knows that's fair enough, too.

"I don't think players play for money that often, and I don't think that's a healthy circumstance for anyone to be in. We paid him on potential and if he goes for money it is a very hard weight to carry on your back."

New coach Terry Wallace spoke to Ottens soon after his appointment and told the ruckman he was an important part of his plans for Richmond.

Ottens is on holiday for a couple of weeks and the club feels no great urgency in signing him up because it sees there is no grievance between the parties. "We don't need to close the door at all. We can take it through to the first choice in the pre-season draft," Miller said.

 

[itsintheblood]

Tigers play hard ball with Ottens
23 September 2004 Herald Sun
Jon Pierik

SYDNEY will have to look elsewhere for a new ruckman after Richmond last night emphatically reiterated its desire to keep Brad Ottens.

And in a warning for the out-of-contract big man, Tigers coach Terry Wallace said he would look to use the club's No. 1 pick in the pre-season draft to hold on to Ottens, if he wanted out.

Sydney and Geelong are believed to be the frontrunners in a group of six clubs racing to snare Ottens' signature, with Swans coach Paul Roos having spoken to the 24-year-old.

But Wallace, into his fourth week in charge at Punt Rd, scotched rumours yesterday that Ottens was poised to sign with the Swans.

"I've had two conversations with Brad and he told me that he wanted to stay," he said.

"Unless I hear something different from him or his management, which I haven't heard, we're not going to jump to anything that is speculated by newspapers."

Wallace said Ottens, who is likely to play from the goalsquare next year with Matthew Richardson roaming around the 50m arc, was a required player.

"The Richmond Footy Club is in a position where we have first pick in the second draft," Wallace said. "So if you're an uncontracted player, we have the ability to pick them up, whether that be our own or others. That puts us in the pole position."

Ottens collected about $450,000 this year but has been asked to take a cut of more than $100,000 a year in the deal he is considering from the Tigers.

Richmond director of football Greg Miller believes Ottens has been paid on potential for too long -- and it's now time for results.

If the two parties cannot reach agreement, and Ottens wants out, the Tigers can either organise a trade or leave him to nominate for the pre-season draft.

The Tigers, as they do in the national draft, have the first pick there, with Hawthorn at No. 2, the Western Bulldogs at No. 3 and Collingwood at No. 4.

Geelong chief executive Brian Cook confirmed the Cats had spoken to Ottens' management but he was just one of several players the club was interested in.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

lol, just posted the same articles on the other thread. pretty clear that they want to keep him.

 

[Harvey Leadpipe]

I've changed my username (previously Otto's ladder, although that had nothing to do with him as a player), in expectation that he will not be with us next season. I still expect another clubs offers to be too tempting. Would be surprised if he stays.

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

damn and i was hoping he was already gone!

LOL

 

[SaveFeriss]

If he goes to another club, there will be huge pressure on him. If he stays and takes a paycut, he will enhance the feeling of a true re-building at the club. Confirming to his team mates that he's serious!

Good to hear the Tigers playing tough.

 

[itsintheblood]

No player on our list apart from perhaps Bowden, Brown and richo earnt their pay this year. They should all refund half their wages for their performances. They should be embarrassed accepting their pay cheques.

 

[Harvey Leadpipe]

No player on our list apart from perhaps Bowden, Brown and richo earnt their pay this year. They should all refund half their wages for their performances. They should be embarrassed accepting their pay cheques.

Throw Hartigan into that mix IITB. Not a bad year on apprentice wages, although he still probably earned more than most of us.

 

[jezza]

I'd add Chris Hyde too, he really impressed me this year.

It's amazing how many players have either stalled or gone backwards this year. Almost all have plenty of years ahead of them so it's not like they should be fading with age. Hopefully they can all regain form under TW. On the plus side, it should mean in any negotiations with players, they won't be in a position to make outrageous demands, which should help in terms of the salarly cap.

 

[Fwoy]

Was the heading to this thread in direct reference to the current situation, or a broad sweeping statement?

 

[grayham]

The noises coming out of Richmond officialdom regarding Ottens sounds hauntingly familiar to the squeals coming out of Collingwood when we got Nick Davis.

Is Ottens already gone ? It would seem so.

 

[Fishfinger]

One very big difference grayham. Davis said he wanted to leave, Ottens has said he wants to stay.

 

[One-eyed Tiger]

The noises coming out of Richmond officialdom regarding Ottens sounds hauntingly familiar to the squeals coming out of Collingwood when we got Nick Davis.

Is Ottens already gone ? It would seem so.

Difference is Collingwood, didn't hold No.1 pick in the PSD...........

 

[Fishfinger]

No player on our list apart from perhaps Bowden, Brown and richo earnt their pay this year. They should all refund half their wages for their performances. They should be embarrassed accepting their pay cheques.

Are you posting this while at work IITB?

 

[itsintheblood]

Are you posting this while at work IITB?

Absolutely. But unlike our players, I actually get my job done!!!!

 

[oxx]

Dont forget the Nemesis of the the last 5 years.

 

[grayham]

Difference is Collingwood, didn't hold No.1 pick in the PSD...........

That card only favours Ottens because:

1) There is some conjecture whether you can actually draft your own player in the PSD.
2) Ottens would just nominate $500K (or whatever Sydney offer) which you would have to pay if you got him via PSD. Therefore no pay cut, but a pay rise.
3) Sydney could front load a contract so that his 1st year asking price is up around $700K, meaning you would have to offload players to stay under the cap to get him.
4) Richmond is getting investigated for cap breaches, so you may not have a PSD pick anyway.
5) Why would you re-draft someone who doesnt want to be there.

The fact that Wallace has thrown the PSD line is shows how desperate a position he is in.

IMO its all bravado to try and get a better deal from Sydney.

 

[JohnF]

Was the heading to this thread in direct reference to the current situation, or a broad sweeping statement?

LOL Fwoy

Ottens is going nowhere! and that's why we should get rid of him!

 

[Heisenberg_]

Richmond is getting investigated for cap breaches, so you may not have a PSD pick anyway.

Every club gets investigated every year

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

4) Richmond is getting investigated for cap breaches, so you may not have a PSD pick anyway.

Are we really?where,s your source other than whats been said here on BF?
for your information GM has assured us that there will be no investigation

cheers!

 

[Harvey Leadpipe]

Surely we can't be investigated for overpaying that bunch we put on the ground each week this year?

 

[madtiger2005]

Good stuff Wallace You set Otto straight. If he wants to play for money at another club, then we will make sure he doesn't get to play for that club lol

 

[LC_15]

That card only favours Ottens because:

1) There is some conjecture whether you can actually draft your own player in the PSD.
2) Ottens would just nominate $500K (or whatever Sydney offer) which you would have to pay if you got him via PSD. Therefore no pay cut, but a pay rise.
3) Sydney could front load a contract so that his 1st year asking price is up around $700K, meaning you would have to offload players to stay under the cap to get him.
4) Richmond is getting investigated for cap breaches, so you may not have a PSD pick anyway.
5) Why would you re-draft someone who doesnt want to be there.

The fact that Wallace has thrown the PSD line is shows how desperate a position he is in.

IMO its all bravado to try and get a better deal from Sydney.

IMO you are a moron, wait, not just my opinion. Grayham, south shepparton is home to the housing commision. Which sort of fits in with you, and before you say it isnt. I WENT TO SCHOOL IN SOUTH SHEPPARTON, i got out of there quick.

Now bugger off to that little cr@p hole you live in. The dole cheque is almost in you need to stop stealing from your neighbours internet.

LC

 

[tigerT]

lol

keep dreaming grayham

dont u just love these ppl coming in and claiming we are being as good as bent over the barrel?

the fact is we hold the aces here, there are abt a dozen clubs who would take otto in a heartbeat and for every couple of smartass clubs that try to play hardball with GM, there are dbl that waiting in the wings to offer something suitable to nab him

still its fun seeing all these opposition supporters thinking they are calling the shots

 

[hotdogandsauce]

nothing worse than ill informed supporters and sydney seem to have a heap of them.