Roast Our Forward Entries

[Gizza]

I don't know if the problem lies with our mids or our forwards or maybe a bit of both, but ****ing hell we would need 1000 i50s to kick a winning score the way we play. Why can opposition players always hit up short targets inside 50 and we can't?

 

[SpaceClef]

Yeah it's painful to watch

 

[bzparkes]

Because instead of getting quickly they wait for the opposition to flood back then just kick up and unders to the goal square or if they do get it in quickly the just kick it directly to the only opposition player in there

 

[TOA.]

Is it really suprising when the ball is being delivered by Priddis, Hutchings, Rosa and Selwood (when fit).

You can see the difference when reasonably good kicks like Shuey and Gaff kick it in there. Those guys above take way too long and then just bomb it in. Opposition players can run 30m in the time it takes those guys to kick that distance.

 

[eagles rule]

Besides the crap entries a big area for improvement needs to be the team work in the fwd line instead of everyone playing as individuals how about they Shepperd and block and scragg the opposition to enable a team mate to mark or get a few yards of space to get a kick on goal.Or even take their opponent away from a contest to get more 1/1 contests with no 3rd man ups .The fwds need to get smarter and put the team 1st..

 

[Marlin01]

Slow ball movement across the entire field means our opponents are able to get numbers back into our f50. We are then forced to kick to contested situations. It's not a problem confined to the forward half of the ground. We look like a team that is afraid to make mistakes with the ball, so we go long down the line, because it's the "safe" option.

 

[ChampRevesby]

It's because we move the ball too slowly. We very rarely if ever take on the game from HB. I think its partly due to our poor skills and the horrible awareness of some of players in the midfield.
The reason why teams score so easily against us is because we fail to go with them on the rebound. When the ball is turned over our mids refuse to switch from attack to defence and the harder working oppositions are free to spread and run forward. Lack of skill and work rate is killing us atm.

 

[bodazoka]

Is it a combination of not moving the ball quickly AND our forwards not switching to attack quickly enough? there are a number of times we have moved the ball super quick only to not have any options in the forward line to kick too. Nicoski was our last good forward at transitioning into attack quick enough to take advantage when we move the ball quickly.

If we stuck a Jetta (Sydney) type at HF I think we would kick quite a few more goals a game.

 

[ndot]

hutchings, rosa, priddis, gaff, are some of the main culprits. we are paying the price for completely disregarding the importance of kicking skills and football IQ with our recruiting

 

[ChampRevesby]

hutchings, rosa, priddis, gaff, are some of the main culprits. we are paying the price for completely disregarding the importance of kicking skills and football IQ with our recruiting

Rosa has been our best most effective mid this year and Hutch, while not a superstar, is playing his role.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I agree with the points made above.
The other thing is really our biggest strength is our biggest weakness.
It's all too easy to bomb it long when we play land of the giants up forward.

This also get us killed on the rebound...Kennedy and Darling just can't chase like they used too.

Having a genuine cagey small forward would help too.

 

[Smotie]

All above points are correct IMO.
Add to those three fact we play or allow the opposition to play a congested brand of football so getting time to make good disposals and choices is difficult.
When we do have the time we generally do hit up targets. Except for the players mentioned above of course.

 

[Matera92]

Would help if the players would lead straight up the guts instead of to the pockets, even if they cant mark the ball would be in a far more dangerous position.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Because instead of getting quickly they wait for the opposition to flood back then just kick up and unders to the goal square or if they do get it in quickly the just kick it directly to the only opposition player in there

It's not that different from what other sides do, it's a counter for the reverse press tactics and slingshot football.

Prevents us from getting hurt on the rebound as easily as we would otherwise would due to everyone playing extra players behind the ball, the issue is still a weak on ball group that can't track the ball quickly enough when we kick long and fast inside fifty, the group doesn't have the contested ball prowess for when we have numbers up front or the game breaking ability we need to generate overlap to get more easy uncontested goals.

Slow and deliberate movement is better than quick and thoughtless ball movement, Kennedy has suffered with the slower movement across the half forward line. But until our midfield and small forward group is up for the challenge we won't role forward quickly on account of getting burnt the other way.

Tactics is window dressing at the moment anyway.

 

[Jarlcorbz]

Lecca needs to lift.

 

[Snortle]

Slow ball movement doesn't excuse a side bombing the ball into the forward 50. This isn't bloody Auskick.

Plenty of sides chip the ball around the 70m arc till they can pinpoint a pass inside the 50. Also, we have players like Hurn who can kick a goal from 75m on a dry day.

There's no excuse for playing crap footy.

Woosha couldn't coach this out of them, Sumich couldn't when he was the forwards coach and now Simpson who just declared he banned it just sat through a game where this strategy was utilised 90% of the time entering the forward 50.

Pathetic.

 

[Dark Sharks]

It's because we have very few actual playmakers.

Players with a plan who can actually get around an opponent, run a full length and then hit up a forward. (Ala Goddard)

Instead our potato team chip it around with zero direction, until someone like Priddis runs around the back for a handball and then subsequently bombs it high in to the forward 50 anyway. It basically completely contradicts the whole point of chipping it around in the first place.

 

[bkozican]

Reading some of the comments and I have a solution......

I have always thought that the 50metre ark should be treated like a 3 point line. We need players like Hurn that can kick 50+ with ease. If we have a few of them type of players, it draws defenders out of the 50 similar to defenders in basketball. Now that causes space to open in the forward....

We bomb it in because we have no players like the above that worry defenders. They just pack in the defence and run it out.

End rant

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Slow ball movement doesn't excuse a side bombing the ball into the forward 50. This isn't bloody Auskick.

Plenty of sides chip the ball around the 70m arc till they can pinpoint a pass inside the 50. Also, we have players like Hurn who can kick a goal from 75m on a dry day.

There's no excuse for playing crap footy.

Woosha couldn't coach this out of them, Sumich couldn't when he was the forwards coach and now Simpson who just declared he banned it just sat through a game where this strategy was utilised 90% of the time entering the forward 50.

Pathetic.

Slow ball movement results in long kicks to contests because short kicks to players that aren't free are worse. It's called playing the percentages, you penetrate deep when the opposition have numbers back and you put the pressure back on the opponents in your scoring zone.

The biggest issue Simpson had to fix was us getting opened up on the rebound like we did in late 2013.

 

[eagles rule]

It's because we have very few actual playmakers.

Players with a plan who can actually get around an opponent, run a full length and then hit up a forward. (Ala Goddard)

Instead our potato team chip it around with zero direction, until someone like Priddis runs around the back for a handball and then subsequently bombs it high in to the forward 50 anyway. It basically completely contradicts the whole point of chipping it around in the first place.

This why Wce need to draft Pickett he s a 70 metre player can run fast , break lines and hit up a target .

 

[Snortle]

Slow ball movement results in long kicks to contests because short kicks to players that aren't free are worse. It's called playing the percentages, you penetrate deep when the opposition have numbers back and you put the pressure back on the opponents in your scoring zone.

The biggest issue Simpson had to fix was us getting opened up on the rebound like we did in late 2013.

You're the one causing the problem!!! DID YOU EVEN READ MY POST???

BOMBING IS NOT AN OPTION. Playing a game strategy that relies on opponent error or free-kicks to score goals IS NOT A WINNING STRATEGY.

You have to control the game - and control the ball to win. Not rely on luck.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

This why Wce need to draft Pickett he s a 70 metre player can run fast , break lines and hit up a target .

I cannot believe we don't have a player like that on our list, literally not one player on our list fits that category, our recruiters really have some explaining to do

 

[Dark Sharks]

You're the one causing the problem!!! DID YOU EVEN READ MY POST???

BOMBING IS NOT AN OPTION. Playing a game strategy that relies on opponent error or free-kicks to score goals IS NOT A WINNING STRATEGY.

You have to control the game - and control the ball to win. Not rely on luck.

No but it's definitely something the club should have as an extra string to it's bow.

Punishing a team on the rebound is part of modern day football, and we can't do it for shit because we are too slow to react.

 

[Snortle]

No but it's definitely something the club should have as an extra string to it's bow.

Huh??? You think the eagles should have the ability to cause opponent errors and free kicks?

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[Dark Sharks]

Huh??? You think the eagles should have the ability to cause opponent errors and free kicks?

OK /JediPowersActivate!

No...

I'm saying the eagles SHOULD have the ability to PUNISH the opposition when a turnover happens. Which at the moment, we don't do.

If a turnover is caused, we are too slow to do anything with it, all their numbers flood back, and it's a wasted opportunity.