Perrie Grrr

[outback jack]

Nothing wrong with a long direct bomb to the goalfront jack.

We severely lack a goal-kicking crumbing forward.

yes betts would have been nice had we delisted a few last yr. Why we havent rookied one is beyond me really, this is what you do, dont waste 2nds or 3rd rounders on them.

And its true that there is nothing wrong with a long bomb, but there is when it is repeated several times, and instead of kicking to a main target like they did, ie holland, we kicked to a pack. This virtually rules out a mark and then makes it difficult for the crumbers anyway even though we never had any there. Often wasn’t to the goal front either, more like 40m out. They mixed it up and generally kicked to a lead with space, by using the corridor when possible, thats how i saw it.

anyway not the end of the world but was disappointing as i expected more.

Also, i'm not sure if its been mentioned but it looks as though stiffy has broken his leg (not the poster).

 

[outback jack]

I said that a couple of games back and got pasted for it!

Not by jack you wouldnt have what exactly did you get slammed for?

I think Hentschell has been ok bit ordinary recently - still reckon its a tad easier in defence, which is where he mostly was last year, than in attack. Stevo needs to come back in. I'm ready to have another lookat Watts but isnt he injured?

nah watts is playing but apparently had not much of a preseason. I expected more from trent, someone said hes soft b4 and last yr i thought hes finding his feet, but this yr he should be creating more of a presence. And i agree stevo is probably the man, give watts 10 or so sanfl games to get some really good form up and then if there is a spot slot him in. I dont agree with welsh going out though, especially if its to bring in jericho. Most successful teams dont have that 189cm 70kg leading player who cant do much else from what i can remember. Bring in stevo for welsh that way we can have three big targets like a Perrie, stevo and biglands at times. Trents mobility would allow him to be the third forward and really he is not doing the workload of a key forward atm anyway.

 

[Stiffy_18]

One thing Brisbane defence struggles against is quick small/medium players and that is one of the reasons why I would bring Jericho into the side. His pace off the mark would trouble them and generally he is a good mark on the lead because he leaves his opponent for dead if he gets a good run at it.

 

[outback jack]

One thing Brisbane defence struggles against is quick small/medium players and that is one of the reasons why I would bring Jericho into the side. His pace off the mark would trouble them and generally he is a good mark on the lead because he leaves his opponent for dead if he gets a good run at it.

nah not keen on luke, we have enough soft players as it is. At least scotty usually gets a quality defender. I would try and give lepitsch the round around using perrie, he aint very mobile anymore. Problem is kicking to a leading player requires space and room to move in, clean foot skills, and also it helps if you use the corridor. We dont dont any of these that well yet. I can imagine what chris scott will try to do to luke, it wouldnt be pretty.

 

[dA Crow]

Geez some people have no idea, Perrie was the only decent forward we had tonight, where was Welsh??? Dont see anyone bagging him, I reakon people either have no idea or they have their eyes shut, we got one thread bagging Burton when he clearly played well tonight now we have this thread ripping through Perrie What people going to say Rutten was poor too????

If you are going to critise, critise the right players at least, worst tonight would have been Welsh, Edwards, Mattner and McGregor although he did improve a bit in the 2nd half, Hentshel was poor as was Reilly and Begley. :

I will glaze over the no idea comment, for the time being anyway. Perrie's job is to lead and kick goals when playing up forward, on a multitude of times he was caught behind the defender, was starting to drive me up the wall. As for the othere part of his job, kicking goals, he was aweful tonight, and it is a trend with his kicking and it is starting to cost us games.

 

[dA Crow]

Perrie (I have labelled him "The Keystone Cop") at times annoys the hell out of me, but I think people like yourself are expecting things for Perrie that just wont ever come. He isnt a Fevola, Lloyd or Gehrig type player, he is a forward pocket that we are playing in a key position because we dont have the forward line talent at this present stage. Due to this he is usually opposed to a much better defender than what he would be if we had more forward talent and Perrie was playing in his natural forward pocket position. He was our only forward tonight that offered anything, I do think next week we bring in stevo for CHF. Maybe drop welsh have Perrie in the goal square and bring in Jericho. With our flooding Jericho may be able to use his speed and we kick the ball into space and allow him to run on into the 50 to set up goals.

Dont get me wrong, I think Perrie has plenty of talent and tries his balls off each week, just at the moment, something is wrong. It either needs to be fixed during the week which doesnt seem to be happening, or he needs a solid run with South. Either way it is not a problem that is going to magically fix itself.

 

[dA Crow]

Nothing wrong with a long direct bomb to the goalfront jack.

We severely lack a goal-kicking crumbing forward.

Our entire forward line is a mess. Frementle kicked 22 or 23 goals against that same defence last week, we should have been about to at least get 50% of that figure , on a perfect night (Granted Freo game was daytime)

 

[arrowman]

How can a guy who developed a reasonably accurate goal kicking routine under Jars be alloed by the coaching panel and go back to having no goal kicking routine.

This lack of a routine has been obvious for a few weeks now and his accuracy has been off the mark

Me too. He has gone (kicking wise) from awful to very good, back to awful. I don't get it.

 

[Wood_Duck]

As I have said on another thread. I think Perrie and Welsh should play SANFL next week. I have been a bit of a fan of Perrie for a couple of years but I reckon he is just not up to it. Oh yes I can hear you all screaming at me that he was our best forward on Fiday night. Well guess what thats no great an accolade. Thats like saying Larry is the smartest of the three stooges. Unfortunately, work rate and effort alone will not win games. I totally agree that Perrie is maybe the hardest worker in the side, but guess what? he needs to, his skills are disguisting. His kicking at goal is just a joke. I'm tellin ya, it will cost us games. All of this crap like, he gives his all, he works his ass off, etc etc. is all true but irrelevant. He is not good enough. I agree its time to bite the bullet and give an opportunity to someone who will actually be part of the future rather than continuing with this stop gap rubbish. His confidence is completey shot and at times I think he actually feels humiliated at his own skills. At the very least send him back to the SANFL to play some decent football.
As for Welsh. The easy answer is just to drop him, and he probably deserves it. To be honest though, he just should not be playing at FF. He is not a FF. He should be playing on a HFF where he plays quite well.

 

[GoSarge]

As I have said on another thread. I think Perrie and Welsh should play SANFL next week. I have been a bit of a fan of Perrie for a couple of years but I reckon he is just not up to it. Oh yes I can hear you all screaming at me that he was our best forward on Fiday night. Well guess what thats no great an accolade. Thats like saying Larry is the smartest of the three stooges. Unfortunately, work rate and effort alone will not win games. I totally agree that Perrie is maybe the hardest worker in the side, but guess what? he needs to, his skills are disguisting. His kicking at goal is just a joke. I'm tellin ya, it will cost us games. All of this crap like, he gives his all, he works his ass off, etc etc. is all true but irrelevant. He is not good enough. I agree its time to bite the bullet and give an opportunity to someone who will actually be part of the future rather than continuing with this stop gap rubbish. His confidence is completey shot and at times I think he actually feels humiliated at his own skills. At the very least send him back to the SANFL to play some decent football.
As for Welsh. The easy answer is just to drop him, and he probably deserves it. To be honest though, he just should not be playing at FF. He is not a FF. He should be playing on a HFF where he plays quite well.

Without Perrie and Welsh up forward, please list your proposed forward line for this week against Brisbane. It's ok to say everyone should be dropped but who do you replace them with ? I'd be interested to see who you'd have as our forward 6.

As for the Welsh at HFF i actually agree, his mobility up the ground is a big positive and he can also push deep in to the forward line to kick a goal or two for us.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Without Perrie and Welsh up forward, please list your proposed forward line for this week against Brisbane. It's ok to say everyone should be dropped but who do you replace them with ? I'd be interested to see who you'd have as our forward 6.

As for the Welsh at HFF i actually agree, his mobility up the ground is a big positive and he can also push deep in to the forward line to kick a goal or two for us.

FF: Watts, Biglands, Skipworth
HFF: Ricciuto, Hentshcel, Jericho/Welsh

 

[maccas_no1]

FF: Watts, Biglands, Skipworth
HFF: Ricciuto, Hentshcel, Jericho/Welsh

Thats a very weak forwardline and you are taking some 'sting' out of the midfeild by playing Roo up there, also Biglands cant play a full game in the forwardline as Hudson will be stuffed by games end and Clarke isnt available.

In's : M Stevens, Jericho and Doughty.

Out's: Johncock (inj), Welsh and Begley.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Thats a very weak forwardline

As opposed to the extremely strong one we have now.

and you are taking some 'sting' out of the midfeild by playing Roo up there

He changes there most weeks with the other onballers.

also Biglands cant play a full game in the forwardline as Hudson will be stuffed by games end and Clarke isnt available.

If Clarke isnt fit, I'd rest Hudson at FF for 10 mins a quarter if needed. He could do no worse than any one else that is playing at FF.

 

[rooboy]

FFS, Perrie is our only forward at the moment. He is not Jonathon Brown but he's the best we've got. He is the only bloke in our forward line that looks like taking a mark. Yeah, let's drop him.
I would however not mind seeing Hudson spend more time in the forward fifty.

 

[Wood_Duck]

FFS, Perrie is our only forward at the moment. He is not Jonathon Brown but he's the best we've got. He is the only bloke in our forward line that looks like taking a mark. Yeah, let's drop him.
I would however not mind seeing Hudson spend more time in the forward fifty.

7 marks for 2 goals. Its not just a matter of taking marks.

 

[maccas_no1]

7 marks for 2 goals. Its not just a matter of taking marks.

Nobody else is doing any better. Throwing Roo or Biglands up forward wont make it any better.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

As I have said on another thread. I think Perrie and Welsh should play SANFL next week. I have been a bit of a fan of Perrie for a couple of years but I reckon he is just not up to it. Oh yes I can hear you all screaming at me that he was our best forward on Fiday night. Well guess what thats no great an accolade. Thats like saying Larry is the smartest of the three stooges. Unfortunately, work rate and effort alone will not win games. I totally agree that Perrie is maybe the hardest worker in the side, but guess what? he needs to, his skills are disguisting. His kicking at goal is just a joke. I'm tellin ya, it will cost us games. All of this crap like, he gives his all, he works his ass off, etc etc. is all true but irrelevant. He is not good enough. I agree its time to bite the bullet and give an opportunity to someone who will actually be part of the future rather than continuing with this stop gap rubbish. His confidence is completey shot and at times I think he actually feels humiliated at his own skills. At the very least send him back to the SANFL to play some decent football.
As for Welsh. The easy answer is just to drop him, and he probably deserves it. To be honest though, he just should not be playing at FF. He is not a FF. He should be playing on a HFF where he plays quite well.

With regard to Perrie, I agree with most of your comments Woody. However, I can't see the point in sending him back to the sanfl to find form. There is no form to find, this is it, this is as good as it get. All your going to get with Perrie is a contest( which his admirers continously harp on ), he won't dominate in the air, he won't dominate on the ground, he won't dominate on the scoreboard.

EDIT BTW i'm against sending Perrie back to the SANFL. I think he needs to prop up CHF while the young guys develop around him. But for Christ sake bring at least one of the young guys in and play him in a FP:

Watts or Meeson M Stevens/Welsh ( the other on the bench ) McLeod
Goody Perrie Hent

 

[GoSarge]

But for Christ sake bring at least one of the young guys in and play him in a FP:

Excellent point. Our younger players need exposure to AFL. For mine it should be Watts.

 

[Wood_Duck]

EDIT BTW i'm against sending Perrie back to the SANFL. I think he needs to prop up CHF while the young guys develop around him. But for Christ sake bring at least one of the young guys in and play him in a FP:

I guess in a cryptic kind of way that was what I was suggesting. If he went back to the SANFL and didnt improve then it would become more permanent. I'd have an out of form Mark Stevens before Perrie at the moment.

 

[The Toolman]

Not quite

Welsh out, Begley out, M. Stevens and Jericho in

I agree....give Welsh a wake up call and bring back Stevo. However, if Steveo doesn't fire, is that the end of the line for him?

 

[maccas_no1]

Excellent point. Our younger players need exposure to AFL. For mine it should be Watts.

Why when Jericho has far better SANFL form????

 

[Stiffy_18]

Why when Jericho has far better SANFL form????

I wouldn't say its far better. Jericho has had a dominating game and been solid in the other games (apart the one on the weekend) but Watts OTOH, has been solid in all of his games.

Its just a matter of which player Brisbane will find most difficult to match up on. Personally I think its Jericho.

 

[outback jack]

i dont reckon they'll have a problem with either to be honest. Jericho aint smart enough to exploit his pace imo

 

[PAFC2004]

Dud.

 

[outback jack]

Dud.

intelligent

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