Players at #36

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

There is NO WAY Lachlan Henderson, Pat Veszpremi, Dave Gourdis or Tayte Pears will drop to #36.

 

[Salaryman]

There is NO WAY Lachlan Henderson, Pat Veszpremi, Dave Gourdis or Tayte Pears will drop to #36.

I'm sure we rate a few more than those

The General, looking at my list there are 28 names I would be genuinely happy with at #36. Not saying we won't get one of those as some clubs will probably take some kids that I don't think we need at CFC (e.g. perhaps a couple of ruckman or speculative talls).

 

[Silvagnis]

I'm thinking our list would be pretty tall if took Kreuzer and Lobbe(see Ant55's phantom draft) and Aisake was promoted, so I had doubts that we'd take another big man at pick 36 or 46. Yet we would have preferred to have kept the similarly sized Kennedy to fill the hole at CHF and allow Waite to play elsewhere.

Will pick 36 us cast light on how we rate our list structure going forward?

pick 36, Lobbe - we have enough midfielders and we need another tall forward since Hartlett and Aisake might not make it.

or

pick 36 - HFF/midfielder/defender - our KPP are developing nicely and we decided to pick another medium defender, midfielder or HFF to add more run and skill.

What are your opinions on Lobbe's talents?

ant55 picked Sandilands at pick 46 in his phantom draft.

 

[Bluebear]

I'm thinking our list would be pretty tall if took Kreuzer and Lobbe(see Ant55's phantom draft) and Aisake was promoted, so I had doubts that we'd take another big man at pick 36 or 46. Yet we would have preferred to have kept the similarly sized Kennedy to fill the hole at CHF and allow Waite to play elsewhere.

Will pick 36 us cast light on how we rate our list structure going forward?

pick 36, Lobbe - we have enough midfielders and we need another tall forward since Hartlett and Aisake might not make it.

or

pick 36 - HFF/midfielder/defender - our KPP are developing nicely and we decided to pick another medium defender, midfielder or HFF to add more run and skill.

What are your opinions on Lobbe's talents?

ant55 picked Sandilands at pick 46 in his phantom draft.

I think we should take a tall - either key defensive or key forward.

We can take another quality mid early next year should we feel the need.

 

[HBF]

I think we should take a tall - either key defensive or key forward.

We can take another quality mid early next year should we feel the need.

Disagree mate.
We have a couple of real significant holes in our list. I'd be looking to try and cover those at #36 and #46. Plus, there won't be anything so significant at #36 and #46 in the tall department anyway.

 

[Silvagnis]

Disagree mate.
We have a couple of real significant holes in our list. I'd be looking to try and cover those at #36 and #46. Plus, there won't be anything so significant at #36 and #46 in the tall department anyway.

Agree.

I think we'll go small with those picks after we take Kreuzer at one to fill Kennedy's spot as a mobile forward and resting ruckman. I haven't seen them play mind you, but the names Motlop and Whitecross appeal based on what I've read.

 

[Dramoth]

I would like to see us pick up a good young defender at #36.

Our forwards are damned good and our mids will be the saving grace next year and have other teams drooling for years to come. Hammer and Aisake with more game time in them will start showing why Dempsey was totally wrapped with their work ethics and their tap work.

The only real need we have is a couple more proper defender types.

With a couple of good young defenders, the balance of the team will be better and we will have the cover if someone like Setanta or Thornton goes down with an injury.

 

[blue_kings]

I would like to see us pick up a good young defender at #36.

Our forwards are damned good and our mids will be the saving grace next year and have other teams drooling for years to come. Hammer and Aisake with more game time in them will start showing why Dempsey was totally wrapped with their work ethics and their tap work.

The only real need we have is a couple more proper defender types.

With a couple of good young defenders, the balance of the team will be better and we will have the cover if someone like Setanta or Thornton goes down with an injury.

Any draft experts know of the best prospects for KP defenders at #36?

 

[Salaryman]

Any draft experts know of the best prospects for KP defenders at #36?

Dan McKenna (Gippsland) might get through, can play CHF and CHB, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him taken around the 25-32 mark. The only other two KP defenders I rate are the WA boys Pears and Rance but they will be taken in the first round I would imagine.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Hey guys, I have it on great authority that if Lachlan Henderson is around at #36 - we'll be taking him there.

You heard it here first !

 

[TGR]

Hey guys, I have it on great authority that if Lachlan Henderson is around at #36 - we'll be taking him there.

You heard it here first !

Not if Cotchins available.

 

[HBF]

Hey guys, I have it on great authority that if Lachlan Henderson is around at #36 - we'll be taking him there.

You heard it here first !

You're getting worse C4.
Is the pimpin' business trending downwards at the moment?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

You're getting worse C4.
Is the pimpin' business trending downwards at the moment?

It's not doing so badly at the moment.

I'm trying to get the contract to become Rose Porteous' pimp.

So it keeps me busy, much like Judd .. she's nominated 4 desirable Pimps.

 

[HBF]

It's not doing so badly at the moment.

I'm trying to get the contract to become Rose Porteous' pimp.

So it keeps me busy, much like Judd .. she's nominated 4 desirable Pimps.

Perhaps a Rose and Gilly "hook up" could be arranged, should you become the nominated pimp.

 

[TOA.]

Joey Daye.

 

[Silvagnis]

Joey Daye.

Daye sounds like a dream come true.

# 52 Brisbane Lions – Joseph Daye (Zillmere / 194cm / 80kg)

This kid could be anything and for those that have watched him I am sure you would agree. Have not to seen as many QLD games this year but have seen enough to know this kid has an abundance of upside. Been an AIS member and is extremely athletic with the potential to play a number of roles. For me more likely to play wing where he will use his pace to cause difficult match ups. Can go forward but seems to be a little loose the other way. Does not have the best foot skills and will need to sort those out.

Imagine Walker, Daye, Carrazzo, Thornton and Waite playing together with their silky foot skills.

We might as well take Collard if we want a freak who could be anything or nothing. I think we've got enough of "he could be anything and and play anywhere types of players" and we need a pick that is more bullet proof at 46.

And can kick.

Raso failed to play a game, so I don't know why a Luke Stanton would succeed at pick 46.

How about these boys for pick 46?

I didn't want to start another thread.

# 40 Fremantle –Jarhan Jackky (Subiaco / 180cm / 71kg)

Very exciting youngster who plays HF and Fwd pocket. Can take stints through the middle but the motor is not quite there yet. Very creative around the fwd line and finds space pretty well. Has a terrific turn of pace and uses the pill really well. Appears to have a big leap as well which helps in contested 1:1 marking situations.

# 50 Geelong – Mitchell Farmer (Calder Cannons / 179cm / 77kg)

Mitchell Farmer is a kid I really rate and Cats will get a bargain here. Many of you who watched the National Champs would have seen him to be a silky mover out of the back pocket. Have watched TAC games where he dominates the run out of the backline and kicks with good precision up the ground. Decision making is good and looks a prospect for HB at AFL level and possibly even the wing. Tackle pressure would be a feature and is willing to put his body on the line. Pace would be an issue, does not seem to have that burst of pace out of congestion that the elite mids seem to have and hence drops a tad but will definitely play AFL.

# 59 Adelaide - Daniel Noy (Dandenong / 188cm / 80kg)

Know a bit about this kid and would love to see him taken. Has struggled with injury this year and was regarded as a near certainty to be drafted at start of year. Very consistent footballer who has all the skillsets to succeed such as being pacy, good skills, can take a contested grab etc but he lacks one thing……an x factor. Suited to a wing or HBF at AFL level where he could use his best skillset which is a penetrating kick. If you are looking for a similar type you are probably looking at the Lonie’s but a much better ball winner.

"Draft Pick No 48 Western Bulldogs
Best Available IMO: Mich Farmer
Best Club Fit: At this stage with 3 tall's and Masten go best available, Mich Farmer
Possible Options: Ashley Arrowsmith or Andrew Renton
Outside Chances: Luke Sampey
Hope to Slide: Chris Mayne
Selection: Mitch Farmer (BP) - 4 January 1989, 179cm 76kg. Vic Metro/Calder/Craigieburn
Reasons For: Best available, good decision maker, good skills and stops opponents'
Reasons Against: Specialist back pocket
Stats: 68cm vertical jump
TAC Stats: 14 Games, 15 goals, 18 behinds, goal accuracy 45%, average possessions 19.1, kicking efficiency 72%, handball efficiency 78%, tackles per match 3.4 and 51 marks with 14% contested.

Farmer has a huge leap for a small midfielder.

We need a back pocket like Johncock.

Does anyone have a picture of Farmer?

I gather he won't last to 46 going by the comments on the draft thread, but anything is possible come draft day.

Swallow fell to pick 43 in the 2005 draft.

 

[TOA.]

Farmer is a reasonable chance to be there at 46. Although the problem for you guys (assuming you want him) is that Adelaide were dead keen last year and have picks 27,30 and 37. I cant see him getting past all those picks.

 

[Salaryman]

Mitch Farmer (number 22)

 

[Silvagnis]

Mitch Farmer (number 22)

Why is Stephen Milne in the photo?

 

[Pafloyul]

Daye sounds like a dream come true.

Imagine Walker, Daye, Carrazzo, Thornton and Waite playing together with their silky foot skills.

We might as well take Collard if we want a freak who could be anything or nothing. I think we've got enough of "he could be anything and and play anywhere types of players" and we need a pick that is more bullet proof at 46.

And can kick.

Raso failed to play a game, so I don't know why a Luke Stanton would succeed at pick 46.

How about these boys for pick 46?

I didn't want to start another thread.




Farmer has a huge leap for a small midfielder.

We need a back pocket like Johncock.

Does anyone have a picture of Farmer?

I gather he won't last to 46 going by the comments on the draft thread, but anything is possible come draft day.

Swallow fell to pick 43 in the 2005 draft.

What picks do we have; 36 and 46? Are we really that desperate that we are relying on these picks? You would think the acquisition of Judd and a top young ruckman would free us up a little but Nooo! - it seems to have had the opposite affect. I don't see what Raso has to do with anything, he is different kettle of fish entirely and was supposed to have 'good' skills which goes to show you can't use that particular cliche to explain his failure. On paper he was more of a stretch than Daye who is both taller, more athletic and an AIS member to boot. Better a dream too good to be true than no dream at all, I say.

 

[Salaryman]

Why is Stephen Milne in the photo?

Hope you never run into Ricky Harley in a dark alley .

 

[Salaryman]

Before you ask for it General:

Farmer and Petrenko are two kids who play with great intensity and are hard at it, won't shirk the issue and are both sub 3.0sec 20m and agile. Both can play forward or back and pinch hit htrough the middle.....with Hadley, Judd, Gibbs, Walker, Grigg, Carrazzo, Benjamin and Anderson we have the tall mids/flankers covered....I think between these two and Kreuzer HBF has done very well If the real thing panned out like that on the 24th I wouldn't be too upset at all.

 

[Silvagnis]

What picks do we have; 36 and 46? Are we really that desperate that we are relying on these picks?

:YAWN:

Trying to needle people again?

All this shit you post about getting someone with upside and potential doesn't amount to a bucket of piss when the professionals make their pick in two weeks.

You couldn't even manage to pick your nose the right way if you were picking for a club on the 24th.

For all the posts you've made about picking someone who could be anything, when have you defended the selection of Russell by Hughes?

I assume you've posted in the latest Russell thread and said he was an astute choice by Hughes because he is an athlete upside, versatility, skill and pace. Yet you choose to focus on someone like Pendlebury who has developed into a footballer seemingly over night and made a successfull transition from another sport. I may be wrong, but I can't recall you saying Hampson was an astute choice by Hughes and giving him a pat on the back for picking a raw soccer convert.

You're just trolling.

You would think the acquisition of Judd and a top young ruckman would free us up a little but Nooo! - it seems to have had the opposite affect.

Why would that free us up and cause a club to change their philosophy at the draft?

Should we draft Collard and take a risk because we have Judd and Kreuzer?

I'd rather we pick another Joe Anderson who is mature, athletic, hard working and would run through a wall like Andrew McKay to get the ball. Drafting footballers with athletic potential, rather than athletes who play football and turn it over time after time is a bizarre plan.

I don't see what Raso has to do with anything, he is different kettle of fish entirely and was supposed to have 'good' skills which goes to show you can't use that particular cliche to explain his failure

Our list needs a few hard nuts, in and under players and small defenders to complement the likes of Russell, Grigg, Hampson and Benjamin.

We need skill more than we need another project.

On paper he was more of a stretch than Daye who is both taller, more athletic and an AIS member to boot. Better a dream too good to be true than no dream at all, I say.

Ian Prendergast had heaps of upside and the best running action I've seen at Carlton, lets take a punt and get another late. The fact Ian couldn't kick to save himself, didn't have a position that he could call his own and couldn't play wasn't the reason he didn't make it.

Lets draft Chris Kangars.

I read somewhere that Kangars can't kick, but lets do it anyway and pass on someone who can kick the ball well and has a position at AFL level.

Are we sure Pafloyul isn't Shane O'Sullivan?

O'Sullivan picked alot of athletes, tweeners and project players like Prendergast, Beasy, Livingston, Chatfield, Massie, Vance, etc, and only one will make it.

 

[Silvagnis]

Hope you never run into Ricky Harley in a dark alley .

I'm 21 centimetres taller than Harley, so that should be a fair fight.

Though I think I'll avoid a fight with Mitch.

Before you ask for it General