Players needed to step up

[tiges4ever]

Richmond has the potential to be a great side but who do they need to step up?

 

[itsintheblood]

Richmond has the potential to be a great side but who do they need to step up?

The 22 players put on the park each week collectively will generally do it.

 

[wart101]

yep....................................................

 

[Madtiger2006]

ok that's settled then

***thread closed***

 

[sante]

LOL at MT unofficially shutting threads

 

[rota69]

Mostly players in are backline.

 

[Goldust]

BIG seasons looming for these players.

1. Jay Schulz.....We all agree he has the ability, but now is the time to start taking games by the scruff of the neck. Started brilliantly in a number of games last season, but was rarely sighted after half time and in some cases quarter time. Will be in the starting 18 from day one and needs to reward the faith shown in him. Now is his time to shine.

2. Richard Tambling.....Understand he needs to bulk up and has had some setbacks injury-wise, as well as some off-field issues (young family, relocating), but needs to become a more consistent player. Could be anything and hope he comes on.

3. Graham Polak.....Plenty of hype and comes with some baggage. Another who needs to knuckle down and reward the show of faith.

4. Darren Gaspar....We need at least one more, injury free season from him. Unlikely Will Thursfield will be up and running by round 1 (hopefully I am wrong), but it would be a big risk to catapult him in to the number one full back role that early on in any case. An in-form Gaspar is as big a key as nay to us. We conceded some mighty big scores last season, including those 10 goals to Fraser Gehrig.....argghhhh, ugly!!!

5. Andrew Raines....I have long advocated his move into the centre. I say we do it now and watch the guy burn!!!! Great season in 2006 and just itching to see him elevate his game to a higher level in 2007.

And last but not least, Adam Pattison, Trent Knobel or Angus Graham.....Pretty clear to me, with Stafford gone, we are in big, big trouble if Troy Simmonds were to go down early in the season...or late too. These guys would want to be busting their arses over the pre-season to secure that back-up role and who knows, may justbring out the best in them!

 

[tugga]

Chris Hyde. Showed his ability vs Geelong and then disappeared for most of the season. Needs to step up big time.

 

[tiges4ever]

Who won't cut it this season and will be delisted

 

[nut]

I'll be happy if Raines doesn't go backwards, asking more then he produced this season is a bit much.

1.Gaspar back to his best would be huge for our defence, allowing Polak ( not expecting much from Polak in his first season) to ease his way into the side. With the Bowden's helping down back and the run from Raines and possibly Newman who will probably have a year in defence to recover frm his broken leg our defence suddenly turns from a weekness to a strength. 2.Hall to help out in probably his last season of football unless he puts in a blinder. There is starting to be some competition for our Key defensive positions which has to be great for the sides improvement.

3. Jay Shulz needs to step up into the consistency stakes. I'm still lost to where he is suited. Not expecting to much from him either but more involvment would be a start.

4. Krakker simply needs to kick those 2-3 goals a game. Pretty much is doing everthing else right. Holds the ball in the forwardline, tackles one percenters ect are all fine. Kick some goals!!!

5. Brett Deliedio. This nineteen yr old can be anything. An extra couple of kilo's on his already strong body will give him more confidence to take them on Juddlike. Last year he improved a little on his first season, this year with Newman and Cog's coming back from Injury more time in the Guts with added responsibility might just see he develope quickly into the superstar that we know we have. But don't forget he is still just 19.

6. Pattison is taking small steps forward and looks like he will make a decent player. In the ruck? down back? up forward? does anyone know where he'll play. I think he'll be that mobile Ruckman in the Darcy mold.

7. Hughes 22 games this season would be great for him and the club.

8 Tambling. This kid will step up.

If Players like the Bowdens, Hyde, Polo, Foley, etc... need to hold the ground that they have taken. Any improvement from them well see us seriously becoming top eight contenders.

 

[Kirke Special]

I'll be happy if Raines doesn't go backwards, asking more then he produced this season is a bit much.

1.Gaspar back to his best would be huge for our defence, allowing Polak ( not expecting much from Polak in his first season) to ease his way into the side. With the Bowden's helping down back and the run from Raines and possibly Newman who will probably have a year in defence to recover frm his broken leg our defence suddenly turns from a weekness to a strength. 2.Hall to help out in probably his last season of football unless he puts in a blinder. There is starting to be some competition for our Key defensive positions which has to be great for the sides improvement.

3. Jay Shulz needs to step up into the consistency stakes. I'm still lost to where he is suited. Not expecting to much from him either but more involvment would be a start.

4. Krakker simply needs to kick those 2-3 goals a game. Pretty much is doing everthing else right. Holds the ball in the forwardline, tackles one percenters ect are all fine. Kick some goals!!!

5. Brett Deliedio. This nineteen yr old can be anything. An extra couple of kilo's on his already strong body will give him more confidence to take them on Juddlike. Last year he improved a little on his first season, this year with Newman and Cog's coming back from Injury more time in the Guts with added responsibility might just see he develope quickly into the superstar that we know we have. But don't forget he is still just 19.

6. Pattison is taking small steps forward and looks like he will make a decent player. In the ruck? down back? up forward? does anyone know where he'll play. I think he'll be that mobile Ruckman in the Darcy mold.

7. Hughes 22 games this season would be great for him and the club.

8 Tambling. This kid will step up.

If Players like the Bowdens, Hyde, Polo, Foley, etc... need to hold the ground that they have taken. Any improvement from them well see us seriously becoming top eight contenders.

Why do you say stuff like that, it's just dumb and its asking for trouble, he's not JUdd-like, no one is, ad how can you say he's a Superstar?

You know this? How, he cant break a tag. Take a breath and see what happens this year.

 

[nut]

Why do you say stuff like that, it's just dumb and its asking for trouble, he's not JUdd-like, no one is, ad how can you say he's a Superstar?

You know this? How, he cant break a tag. Take a breath and see what happens this year.

Judd like in the way he can grab the ball out of congestion, take a couple of bounces and slot one from 60.

Never said he was a super star. Yet. I said develope into the superstar we know we have. The making of one. Watch and wish you had him twit.

 

[Ando_4]

5 that need to stand up...

Schulz - has the ability to be a superstar but just a being a consistant performer would be a good start. No more excuses.

N Brown - May surprise some but this is a crucial year in Brownys career. Last season was a disaster for obvious reasons but as our ace in the pack he needs to get back to somewhere near his best in 07.

G Polak - Absolutely has to be a contributor in a key defensive post if we are to be competitive. If he is languishing at Coburg our season will be with him.

B Hartigan - Has been leapfrogged by a few players of late. If he's to make it at the RFC he has to reinvent himself. I would like to see him as a tagger in 07.

C Hyde - Another senior player who will really be under the pump with a plethora of kids coming through. Nice run & carry game & added goalkicking to his forte last year but needs to step up another level and play consistantly to hold his position.

 

[oxx]

1. Jay Schulz....Make or break year for Jay imo.

2. Richard Tambling.....Dont expect too much

3. Graham Polak.....Plenty of hype and comes with some baggage. Another who needs to knuckle down and reward the show of faith.

4. Darren Gaspar....He'll break down in season 07 again

5. Andrew Raines....Already made them look like duds.

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[lids2004roar]

Don't expect Polak to really fire until 2008.

If we judge him too early it would be unfair... look at Simmonds


"Players that need to step up" come on no footy makes us so bored that we have to go to threads that are about nothing except the same old cliche's aimed at players we feel are under-performing... just bring on 2007 and let's hope the group as a whole LIFTS

 

[Balls of Steel]

As somoene has already rightly said, our whole list has to make improvements. But, each have different reasons for the need to improve.

The ones that are in danger of not being at Richmond in 2008 are:

- Ray Hall (he would have to pull out something remarkable or our backline becomes more disastorous than ever for him not be under pressure)

- Brent Hartigan (Chaffey's departure opens a perfect opportunity for him, other younger kids have passed him and he either steps up into this type of role or he is vulnerable.)

- Andrew Krakouer (l like him - others here dont - but l do recognise its a massive year for him)

- Daniel Jackson (simple, no seniors and no Jacko in 2008 - injuries or no injuries)

- Trent Knobel (Need the big fella to step up so that Simmo has a hand, cant see him losing his spot largely due to poor depth in our rucking department)

- Kelvin Moore (he has to improve, but l dont really know what in because we very rarely see him)

- Greg Tivendale (not going to comment on this - l do every year and it hasnt achieved anything - trying reverse psychology)

- Jay Schulz (agree, no more excuses)

The rest are all as safe as houses, barring a major hiccup. But to make finals, the improvement in the players above will not determine whether we make it or not... it'll be the usual suspects and our younger brigade becoming semi-elite players.

 

[Balls of Steel]

As somoene has already rightly said, our whole list has to make improvements. But, each have different reasons for the need to improve.

The ones that are in danger of not being at Richmond in 2008 are:

- Ray Hall (he would have to pull out something remarkable or our backline becomes more disastorous than ever for him not be under pressure)

- Brent Hartigan (Chaffey's departure opens a perfect opportunity for him, other younger kids have passed him and he either steps up into this type of role or he is vulnerable.)

- Andrew Krakouer (l like him - others here dont - but l do recognise its a massive year for him)

- Daniel Jackson (simple, no seniors and no Jacko in 2008 - injuries or no injuries)

- Trent Knobel (Need the big fella to step up so that Simmo has a hand, cant see him losing his spot largely due to poor depth in our rucking department)

- Kelvin Moore (he has to improve, but l dont really know what in because we very rarely see him)

- Greg Tivendale (not going to comment on this - l do every year and it hasnt achieved anything - trying reverse psychology)

- Jay Schulz (agree, no more excuses)

The rest are all as safe as houses, barring a major hiccup. But to make finals, the improvement in the players above will not determine whether we make it or not... it'll be the usual suspects and our younger brigade becoming semi-elite players.

 

[CoggaRules]

Richmond has the potential to be a great side but who do they need to step up?

the question I have is, that its about time someone put in place a system, whereby this thread is set to auto-pilot, so the same question is generated in the boring months of the off-season.
Do we really need to state the bleeding obvious names, that have been talked about for the last how long? Lets see, i am taking a real wild guess here, hmmmm.....this might be one right out of the box, and call me crazy or whatever, but i would say these 4 letters would be the hot fav for the tiger BF need to step up award - Krak.

 

[CoggaRules]

As somoene has already rightly said, our whole list has to make improvements. But, each have different reasons for the need to improve.

The ones that are in danger of not being at Richmond in 2008 are:

- Ray Hall (he would have to pull out something remarkable or our backline becomes more disastorous than ever for him not be under pressure)

- Brent Hartigan (Chaffey's departure opens a perfect opportunity for him, other younger kids have passed him and he either steps up into this type of role or he is vulnerable.)

- Andrew Krakouer (l like him - others here dont - but l do recognise its a massive year for him)

- Daniel Jackson (simple, no seniors and no Jacko in 2008 - injuries or no injuries)

- Trent Knobel (Need the big fella to step up so that Simmo has a hand, cant see him losing his spot largely due to poor depth in our rucking department)

- Kelvin Moore (he has to improve, but l dont really know what in because we very rarely see him)

- Greg Tivendale (not going to comment on this - l do every year and it hasnt achieved anything - trying reverse psychology)

- Jay Schulz (agree, no more excuses)

The rest are all as safe as houses, barring a major hiccup. But to make finals, the improvement in the players above will not determine whether we make it or not... it'll be the usual suspects and our younger brigade becoming semi-elite players.

oh wow, i have seen these names before, far out huh?
Hold on, can we start a thread on how big a legend Lids is too, that one has been doing the rounds on here each off season too, so lets get it together dudes.

 

[lids2004roar]

I agree Coggas, this is so meaningless I don't even know why I bothered to open it... I am ashamed at my own stupidity!

 

[Tigerrific]

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Luke McGuane. He's been around a couple of years now and surely if he doesn't show something next year he wont survive the 2007 cull.

 

[beaver fever]

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Luke McGuane. He's been around a couple of years now and surely if he doesn't show something next year he wont survive the 2007 cull.

McGuane with definitely have to show some good form in the magoos, and with injuries should get more game time next year.

If McGuane doesn't show enough, Moore steps up and Thursfield recovers then I agree; his place in the side will be in question

 

[Crumden]

I took the opening question to mean who we need to step up for Richmond to go forward, rather than who needs to step up to save there own skin. With that in mind, forget about players like Hall and Hyde. We've pretty much seen the best they've got. They'll continue to go ok against the also-rans then go missing when the heat is on because they don't have the talent to go with the best. The players we need to step up are:

• KJ. He took on the tagging role last season and did some top jobs keeping quality opponents quiet. He needs to do the same again this year but also start generating a lot more drive himself, so other teams have to start tagging the tagger.
• Deledio. Two years under his belt, still a pup, but I'm looking forward to him really starting to put his stamp all over games.
• Browny. Lets hope we can get him back fit and firing. For us to be at our best, he's the ace in the pack.
• Pettifer. Has developed a lot in the last 2 seasons, but needs to continue that level of improvement. If he works as hard as O'Keefe from Sydney, I think we can still get more out of him.
• Raines and Polo. They don't need to take great strides, but they should be looking to consolidate on what they built last year. Any more will be a bonus.
• Although they still have plenty of time on their side, at least a couple of JON, Meyer and Tambling need to start stepping up for the team to go forward. A couple of our young bucks to have breakout years like Raines and Polo this year would be handy.
• Polak? Maybe, but I think it will be late 2007 or 2008 before we really know what he has to offer.

Add in more of the same from Richo, J Bowden and Simmo and hopefully an injury free year from Cogs and that's pretty much the guts of the team that's going to win and lose games for us. The rest need to provide solid support, with hopefully one or two of the big blokes in Schulz, Patto, Hughes making a claim for automatic selection.