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Are some of our players taking us for a ride?

I think this is a fair question as there is no doubt that attitude is the reason we are losing these close games. It's amazing how we are all of a sudden able to turn it on when the game is over rather than play four quarters of solid to good football. We lost tonight not because Fremantle are a better team but rather becuase they wanted it more. If we paid more respect to our opponents they wouldnt be scoring so many cheap goals, we think we are better than we are! Why are our defenders so loose? Isn't their primary objective to stop their opponent? Is this their fault or Ratten's?

Why do some of our players make such terrible choices? Is it their fault or their teammate's for not presenting well enough?

If someone told me that all 22 players gave 100% tonight I'd call them a lier, quite simply, we played arrogant football and its become somewhat of a theme for us this year. We have 4 or so awesome players giving their all and putting their hand up to take the game on whilst at the same time a shitload of passengers. I'm over Cloke and Wiggins, time to move on from these guys because they simply aren't up to it. Give Fisher another crack or even Hartlett, just try something different because these guys aren't working. It makes me so frustrated when all our supporters continually defend Cloke.

I expect us to come out absolutely firing next week, because if not, we are well and truely ****ed for this season.
 
If someone told me that all 22 players gave 100% tonight I'd call them a lier, quite simply, we played arrogant football and its become somewhat of a theme for us this year. We have 4 or so awesome players giving their all and putting their hand up to take the game on whilst at the same time a shitload of passengers. I'm over Cloke and Wiggins, time to move on from these guys because they simply aren't up to it. Give Fisher another crack or even Hartlett, just try something different because these guys aren't working. It makes me so frustrated when all our supporters continually defend Cloke.

I expect us to come out absolutely firing next week, because if not, we are well and truely ****ed for this season.

What's a lier? is that a type of Lizard?
 

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Are some of our players taking us for a ride?

I think this is a fair question as there is no doubt that attitude is the reason we are losing these close games. It's amazing how we are all of a sudden able to turn it on when the game is over rather than play four quarters of solid to good football. We lost tonight not because Fremantle are a better team but rather becuase they wanted it more. If we paid more respect to our opponents they wouldnt be scoring so many cheap goals, we think we are better than we are! Why are our defenders so loose? Isn't their primary objective to stop their opponent? Is this their fault or Ratten's?

Why do some of our players make such terrible choices? Is it their fault or their teammate's for not presenting well enough?

If someone told me that all 22 players gave 100% tonight I'd call them a lier, quite simply, we played arrogant football and its become somewhat of a theme for us this year. We have 4 or so awesome players giving their all and putting their hand up to take the game on whilst at the same time a shitload of passengers. I'm over Cloke and Wiggins, time to move on from these guys because they simply aren't up to it. Give Fisher another crack or even Hartlett, just try something different because these guys aren't working. It makes me so frustrated when all our supporters continually defend Cloke.

I expect us to come out absolutely firing next week, because if not, we are well and truely ****ed for this season.
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I don't no whether its thier work-rate or if they just aren't good enough to cut it in the AFL.

Probably a combination of both actually....

but **** me I cannot stand Russel, shittest player, yet he has a guarenteed spot...
if he was pick 50 he'd be cut by now.
 
No doubt, Id compare some of them to dole bludgers - Quite happy to take the money for little/no input

As for Cloke, I had alot of time for him for a while there - time is running out:thumbsd:

Yep i had alot of time for him and thought he could turn out to be a really good player and be a lot better player then he's 2 brothers but his last 2 performances have been shocking and doesn't even deserve to play in our 2s.
Is he just out of form or is he really that crap?
Does he just need a couple of weeks in the 2s to find some form?
 
but **** me I cannot stand Russel, shittest player, yet he has a guarenteed spot...

Would you like my tape of the game for a second viewing?....it might help prevent you embarrassing yourself with ridiculous statement's like this.

I've watched the game twice and Russell was one of our better players. Admittedly, there were a couple of good plays that he was involved in that were not picked up very well by the camera's and were only noticed on second viewing. Anyone saying he was one of our worst clearly has a vendetta against him.
 
Yep i had alot of time for him and thought he could turn out to be a really good player and be a lot better player then he's 2 brothers but his last 2 performances have been shocking and doesn't even deserve to play in our 2s.
Is he just out of form or is he really that crap?
Does he just need a couple of weeks in the 2s to find some form?

yep, chuck him in the 2's for a few weeks, see what happens, if he shows signs in the 2's, give him a call up, if the output we've seen the last few weeks continues/returns....seeya, seriously, i'm a paitent person, but i think after 8 years, we've all suffered/waited long enough, surely?
 
Wiggos effort proved why it took him 8 years to play 100 games, but it also says something about the quality of the team to persist with him for so long.

Really is the guy any better than when he started?
 

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