Injury Please sign injury petition

[Nick Ster]

It depends. Who's Burgess?

Darren Burgess. Now at Melbourne.

 

[Fratbrat]

I signed, but sprained my wrist.

 

[sr36]

As in Darren Burgess. (He's not the the only one in AFL who has that kind of rep, but he's one of them.)

TBH, I think when we talk about who's a good physio, who's a good assistant coach, or even who's a good captain, its all a bit of a guess. I do think there's going to be gaps between the best and the rest. I just don't think the gaps are particularly large, unless someone has happened on a new way of doing things, which is yet to become accepted practice, and going down that route is always going to be riskier.

 

[Nick Ster]

TBH, I think when we talk about who's a good physio, who's a good assistant coach, or even who's a good captain, its all a bit of a guess. I do think there's going to be gaps between the best and the rest. I just don't think the gaps are particularly large

I think the gaps between good and average coaches can be huge and not just the senior coach because most senior coaches were assistant coaches before.

 

[Gone Critical]

Would like to know whether posters who think there's little difference between practitioners agree Burgess is a gun or think his reputation is undeserved.

Looking from the outside in, which we do, there is no way to tell. It would just be a guess

Even for those in the industry with expertise and access to information have no way of objectively measuring. They can make an educated guess

 

[Nick Ster]

If we needed an external review almost undoubtedly it would be best led by an experienced AFL person who understood the culture and machinations of the sport. Possibly an overseas expert might help with some specific questions.

The thing with Burgess is he keeps switching between AFL and EPL. EPL clubs didn't care he was from AFL culture. AFL clubs don't care he's EPL.

 

[sr36]

I think the gaps between good and average coaches can be huge and not just the senior coach because most senior coaches were assistant coaches before.

Im coming around to your way of thinking in terms of the gaps between the elite and the pack being a bit bigger than I'm suggesting, but the issue is still how to differentiate between the two.

 

[Carringbush2010]

So I'll let everyone do the math:

It's 600 thousand something something divided by 100, sounds as solid as a Roy Morgan poll. Anyway I'll let old mate do the tawkin'

The answer ya huntin..................

 

[Carringbush2010]

If you agree oxygen is nice like this post.

No but necessary.

 

[Nick Ster]

I have to agree. There is a vast difference in the understanding of human movement between health practitioners. I've coached a "sports physio" that was unable to describe and execute the mechanics of a sound squat, nor was he able to cue or execute the hip-hinge movement required to deadlift. He has in his career looked after the Aussie Soccer youth squad and stills sells his services as a "sports specialist". How could he possibly help an athlete with injury prehab/rehab if he isn't able to teach or properly prescribe the most basic of strength building movements?

How did you come to coach him on squats and deadlifts? Did he come to you for help or was it accidental?

 

[Nick Ster]

Im coming around to your way of thinking in terms of the gaps between the elite and the pack being a bit bigger than I'm suggesting, but the issue is still how to differentiate between the two.

I think firstly experience helps. Most of the time the same person with a lot of experience will be much better than when he first started. They can get too old of course.

 

[Nick Ster]

Having said that, I strongly disagree that this is a factor in the club's soft tissue injuries and that this thread is missing the mark. The initiative to petition the club about this is an exercise in futility; if we honestly believe that the club needs the supporters to alert it to the importance of injury management we should just give up on this AFL caper.

But that's not what the OP is doing, is it? It's not "alerting" the club about injuries. It's asking for some actions that haven't been taken.