Opinion Politics (warning, may contain political views you disagree with)

[The Feeder Club]

This is the stuff the gets me fuming.

Fruit, veg growers say biggest customer 'is the rubbish bin', as millions of tonnes of food is wasted

Fresh produce growers scramble to meet "forecast" supply deals with supermarkets, but every year millions of dollars of surplus food goes to waste. So what's going on?

www.abc.net.au

Well said. If a country like Australia, with it's unparalleled natural advantages, sees primary producers so downtrodden that we have to import fresh produce, the governance of the country is totally ****ed. Possibly beyond repair.

 

[poshman]

There was massive amounts of this going on during covid when they couldn't get staff to clear the fields to get it on the trucks and then the cost of driving it made it cheaper to dump than sell to Woolies or Coles.

Farming is in dire need of another round of mechanisation. This pseudo slavery required in the industry to stay productive is problematic.

Yes, the tesla robot workforce or something similar will be a game changer in many industries.

 

[poshman]

Victoria the socialist utopia going bad has just clicked into the new land tax era. Rents will continue to increase and investor levels are at half their historic levels.

Who could have predicted it? Well we know some on this board did.

All that free stuff turns out to not be free after all. If only the Liberals were even close to competent...

Victoria over the next decade will be an interesting watch. I don't think property will be worth investing in there for at least 8 years. And given they won't cut this new tax, it may be longer. Sadly for the conditions to be good for investing there would have been a lot of pain for the people who can afford it least.

 

[Taylor]

Victoria the socialist utopia going bad has just clicked into the new land tax era. Rents will continue to increase and investor levels are at half their historic levels.

Who could have predicted it? Well we know some on this board did.

All that free stuff turns out to not be free after all. If only the Liberals were even close to competent...

Victoria over the next decade will be an interesting watch. I don't think property will be worth investing in there for at least 8 years. And given they won't cut this new tax, it may be longer. Sadly for the conditions to be good for investing there would have been a lot of pain for the people who can afford it least.

Getting between three and four billion extra dollars in GST distribution too, while also not developing their own resources.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Interesting interview on Sky about how all the transgender treatments push got going. Andrew Amos, Academic Psychiatrist, said that gender-affirming advocates have made strategic use of medical systems in Western countries to bypass medical safeguards to push a political point of view.

In Australia, activist clinicians, often identifying as transgender themselves, have realised that a very small number of highly motivated doctors could take over the decision-making process at medical colleges, eg a college of psychiatry. This allows them to endorse whatever practices they like, using their college as a mouthpiece. Once a few medical colleges endorsed what’s called the gender-affirming care model, which is what’s used to justify puberty blockers, which occurred 5-6 years ago, Australian hospitals and health systems then started to implement it, even though there was no good evidence for it.

Once that happens, courts start to describe it as “the standard of care” and health bureaucracies enshrine it in their protocols.

Amos added that now that it has legal and bureaucratic armour, it’s really going to take a concerted effort by politicians with a lot more than usual courage to pass legislation that will reverse these bad decisions and to ignore the fierce criticism they will get from very vocal activists.

The fact that hospitals and clinics won't produce data regarding outcomes of treatment is telling.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Getting between three and four billion extra dollars in GST distribution too, while also not developing their own resources.

They could put it to good use upgrading roads in the far east of the state, where those people were trapped by floods. Roads are not only unsealed but often have trees growing out of them.

 

[poshman]

Getting between three and four billion extra dollars in GST distribution too, while also not developing their own resources.

A not a drop in the debt bucket that is crazy for a state.

A new project price blow out this week as well. Dan knew when to leave a sinking ship.

 

[poshman]

Interesting interview on Sky about how all the transgender treatments push got going. Andrew Amos, Academic Psychiatrist, said that gender-affirming advocates have made strategic use of medical systems in Western countries to bypass medical safeguards to push a political point of view.

In Australia, activist clinicians, often identifying as transgender themselves, have realised that a very small number of highly motivated doctors could take over the decision-making process at medical colleges, eg a college of psychiatry. This allows them to endorse whatever practices they like, using their college as a mouthpiece. Once a few medical colleges endorsed what’s called the gender-affirming care model, which is what’s used to justify puberty blockers, which occurred 5-6 years ago, Australian hospitals and health systems then started to implement it, even though there was no good evidence for it.

Once that happens, courts start to describe it as “the standard of care” and health bureaucracies enshrine it in their protocols.

Amos added that now that it has legal and bureaucratic armour, it’s really going to take a concerted effort by politicians with a lot more than usual courage to pass legislation that will reverse these bad decisions and to ignore the fierce criticism they will get from very vocal activists.

The fact that hospitals and clinics won't produce data regarding outcomes of treatment is telling.

Yep, we know this is how it happened and it had nothing to so with science or indications/contraindications. It was another example of politics taking over science. In Victoria if you say something against 'Gender Affirming Care' they can go after you legally.

There is not one person who should be in support of what currently constitutes gender affirming care. It is a disgrace and should be criminal.

 

[poshman]

They could put it to good use upgrading roads in the far east of the state, where those people were trapped by floods. Roads are not only unsealed but often have trees growing out of them.

The state is in a death spiral. Everything is free in socialist fantasy land until the bill comes due. Then the battlers get screwed.

 

[King Huskii]

Personally I see Indian people as Australians.

Both big family culture.
Both love cricket.
Both support Australia in the Ashes.

Stick it up the Poms.

Australia and India should be the closest of friends but that nation is a good case study in cultural mixing, see if you can find a heat map for sexual assault and notice a pattern.

This is rubbish

India has a strict class system where you aren't allowed to marry outside your class or be friends with people outside your class. If you had actually been there yiu would know. Plus arranged marriage is common.

It's nothing like Australia

 

[King Huskii]

Nice of the IDF again

Such humanitarians towards others other than themselves

 

[poshman]

This is rubbish

India has a strict class system where you aren't allowed to marry outside your class or be friends with people outside your class. If you had actually been there yiu would know. Plus arranged marriage is common.

It's nothing like Australia

I think the comments related to Indian Australians and their being willing to assimilate into Australia.

I have been to India 6 times and my Dad 13 times. Some of what you say was widespread, it is less widespread than it used to be.

Re: arranged marriages.

There is an argument for them.

 

[poshman]

Nice of the IDF again

Such humanitarians towards others other than themselves

Personally I wouldn't use a source that is funded by a government that funds terrorism.

I am looking forward to your next post demanding the rapes of hostages cease and they be released.

 

[King Huskii]

I think the comments related to Indian Australians and their being willing to assimilate into Australia.

I have been to India 6 times and my Dad 13 times. Some of what you say was widespread, it is less widespread than it used to be.

Re: arranged marriages.

There is an argument for them.

My mate just arrived home from India and the class system is forged into their culture

Arranged marriages are fairly common

 

[The Feeder Club]

*caste system

 

[poshman]

My mate just arrived home from India and the class system is forged into their culture

Arranged marriages are fairly common

The caste system is part of their culture - it is not as harsh as it was from the point of view of opportunity and jobs etc.

In the 80's and 90's when my dad went on his first seven trips it was way worse than it is now. I am talking him and his colleagues being attacked and questioned by police for helping members of lower caste's instead of leaving them to starve or die.

So while your friend has some knowledge, the situation has and is changing. That doesn't mean it hasn't got a long way to go, it does. But it has improved.

And yes arranged marriages are fairly common, and I say again, they are not always a bad thing. An argument can be made for them being a positive.

 

[King Huskii]

The caste system is part of their culture - it is not as harsh as it was from the point of view of opportunity and jobs etc.

In the 80's and 90's when my dad went on his first seven trips it was way worse than it is now. I am talking him and his colleagues being attacked and questioned by police for helping members of lower caste's instead of leaving them to starve or die.

So while your friend has some knowledge, the situation has and is changing. That doesn't mean it hasn't got a long way to go, it does. But it has improved.

And yes arranged marriages are fairly common, and I say again, they are not always a bad thing. An argument can be made for them being a positive.

All I.am. stating is that Indians who live in.India have a completely different culture to Australians.

 

[poshman]

All I.am. stating is that Indians who live in.India have a completely different culture to Australians.

Yes - we agree on that.

That can be true and they can assimilate here well.

 

[King Huskii]

Yes - we agree on that.

That can be true and they can assimilate here well.

They do. I play cricket with and against them. Most are awesome to compete against. Especially when I actually make runs and I have bragging rights until we play again and they get one back on me.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

How the West continues to lose the propaganda wars

https://todayspaper.theaustralian.c...e589a1-1e54-4167-b548-cb74c88e8eab&share=true

 

[poshman]

How the West continues to lose the propaganda wars

https://todayspaper.theaustralian.c...e589a1-1e54-4167-b548-cb74c88e8eab&share=true

Sobering article.

I was chatting with a couple of Uni lecturers (UWA and Notere Dame) who were talking about Gaza and saying how terrible it was that they have 'completely blocked off all of Gaza and encircled them completely'.

I said they have 'completely encircled the whole border?'

'Yes, I wouldn't expect everyone to know, but yes'.

Asked them about Egypt and they had no idea and even when shown the map would not acknowledge it. I just smile and say well maybe the map is wrong.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Sobering article.

I was chatting with a couple of Uni lecturers (UWA and Notere Dame) who were talking about Gaza and saying how terrible it was that they have 'completely blocked off all of Gaza and encircled them completely'.

I said they have 'completely encircled the whole border?'

'Yes, I wouldn't expect everyone to know, but yes'.

Asked them about Egypt and they had no idea and even when shown the map would not acknowledge it. I just smile and say well maybe the map is wrong.

It’s been obvious since day one of the current conflict that ideology has trumped reason. Statements from Israel (the colonising oppressors) are routinely labelled fake news (except when they admit to a mistake and then they are criminals), but statements from Hamas (Hamas! ) including statistics are accepted as gospel.

 

[stax on the mull]

Inclusivity and tolerance have taken precedence over defending our culture. Albanese is appallingly weak on this. People coming here (some of them) are not interested in assimilating into our WoL but in setting up enclaves of their previous countries, complete with grievances. And we are meant to tolerate behaviour that is in direct conflict with our values.

The erosion is coming from within, as the universities churn out a constant stream of little socialists, armed with their Bachelor of Activism and Social Justice, ably supported by social media spreading The Word, and aiming for jobs in the public sector, or in HR departments of big companies.

Every accepted truth must now be questioned. Every issue must be viewed through the lens of oppressor/oppressed, coloniser/displaced, skin colour, gender. Everything is being questioned. Religion is to be mocked, not tolerated. Unless it’s a non-Christian religion. Heck, even Christmas gets cancelled or turned into “Holidays” for fear of “offending” someone. (I am 100% certain no one has ever been offended, other than left-wing ideologues.)

The thing about immigrants is the low expectations we have for them to adapt to our way of life. We must respect their ways and beliefs but we don’t ask that they reciprocate. Why do they come here? Why do they go anywhere? Nobody is flocking to their countries. When they start to make demands on us to change public policy or position to align with their views we know they don’t see themselves as Australians. I may be generalising but the disruptive voices are becoming loud. They know how to push our buttons.

We should be looking to Europe and Britain to see what will happen if we don’t defend our values.

Whether you like it or not, the views that you express, as well as being what you believe, are also simpatico with what was written in the manifestos of the perpetrators of the 2011 Mass murders in Norway and the 2019 Christchurch Mosque killings.

 

[Kram]

The erosion is coming from within, as the universities churn out a constant stream of little socialists, armed with their Bachelor of Activism and Social Justice, ably supported by social media spreading The Word, and aiming for jobs in the public sector, or in HR departments of big companies.

Every accepted truth must now be questioned. Every issue must be viewed through the lens of oppressor/oppressed, coloniser/displaced, skin colour, gender. Everything is being questioned. Religion is to be mocked, not tolerated. Unless it’s a non-Christian religion. Heck, even Christmas gets cancelled or turned into “Holidays” for fear of “offending” someone. (I am 100% certain no one has ever been offended, other than left-wing ideologues.)

The thing about immigrants is the low expectations we have for them to adapt to our way of life. We must respect their ways and beliefs but we don’t ask that they reciprocate. Why do they come here? Why do they go anywhere? Nobody is flocking to their countries. When they start to make demands on us to change public policy or position to align with their views we know they don’t see themselves as Australians. I may be generalising but the disruptive voices are becoming loud. They know how to push our buttons.

We should be looking to Europe and Britain to see what will happen if we don’t defend our values.

The irony is this is like a religion in itself, ideological ones they have made up to replace the traditional versions.

 

[poshman]

Whether you like it or not, the views that you express, as well as being what you believe, are also simpatico with what was written in the manifestos of the perpetrators of the 2011 Mass murders in Norway and the 2019 Christchurch Mosque killings.

This is one of those really dumb things people do to look smart.

But to show you are consistent now do LGBTQ allies saying anyone who doesn't change their language to suit them is hate speech.
Then do socialists saying F the rich.

I could name about ten more from the left if you like.

When people want to shut down discussion because it sounds like something someone said who did something bad, they inevitably and historically are in the wrong.

If you take issue with the claims made or the points made, then argue them.

This is as ridiculous as saying we shouldn't look at domestic violence in certain communities because to do so would be racist as once it was in the past.

Or we shouldn't look at where we let people immigrate here from as that could also be racist.