Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has backed a ‘no jab, no entry’ stance to see the return of AFL crowds

[Shannon M]

Is this based on your wrong assumption the vaccines don’t work? Lol

Vaccinated people are infectious. Are you denying the science now?

Vaccines lessen the symptoms, but not in everyone and that effect lowers over time without constant boosters.

Are you saying it is your right to spread the virus around to all and sundry if you've had a vaccine?

So I ask you again who is more moral. The unvaccinated person who avoids pubs and restaurants and other densely populated venues or the vaccinated person who attends these densely populated venues.

 

[HTT]

Vaccinated people are infectious. Are you denying the science now?

Vaccines lessen the symptoms, but not in everyone and that effect lowers over time without constant boosters.

Are you saying it is your right to spread the virus around to all and sundry if you've had a vaccine?

So I ask you again who is more moral. The unvaccinated person who avoids pubs and restaurants and other densely populated venues or the vaccinated person who attends these densely populated venues.

Vaccinated people who get the virus are infectious. You are correct there. And that's about where it ends,
Vaccinated people are significantly less likely to get the virus.
Vaccinated people who do get the virus are generally less infectious than those who are unvaccinated.
Vaccinated people who do get the virus are significantly less likely to experience severe effects from the disease, including hospitalisation, long COVID, and death.

 

[Shannon M]

Vaccinated people who get the virus are infectious. You are correct there. And that's about where it ends,
Vaccinated people are significantly less likely to get the virus.
Vaccinated people who do get the virus are generally less infectious than those who are unvaccinated.
Vaccinated people who do get the virus are significantly less likely to experience severe effects from the disease, including hospitalisation, long COVID, and death.

The CDC are now saying that vaccinated people are similarly infectious to unvaccinated people.

If you are vaccinated and sure that the leaky vaccine will stop you from becoming ill then it doesn't matter what other people do with their bodies.

Even with the leaky vaccine you are still a vaccine spreader. You will still be responsible or making people sick and killing them.

Do you agree that an unvaccinated person who doesn't go to pubs and restaurants is less of a COVID threat than vaccinated people who do go to pubs and restaurants?

Will a vaccinated person who goes to pubs and restaurants kill more people with COVID over the course of their life than an unvaccinated person who doesn't go to pubs and restaurants?

Game, set and match.

 

[HTT]

The CDC are now saying that vaccinated people are similarly infectious to unvaccinated people.

If you are vaccinated and sure that the leaky vaccine will stop you from becoming ill then it doesn't matter what other people do with their bodies.

Even with the leaky vaccine you are still a vaccine spreader. You will still be responsible or making people sick and killing them.

Do you agree that an unvaccinated person who doesn't go to pubs and restaurants is less of a COVID threat than vaccinated people who do go to pubs and restaurants?

Will a vaccinated person who goes to pubs and restaurants kill more people with COVID over the course of their life than an unvaccinated person who doesn't go to pubs and restaurants?

Game, set and match.

Did CDC Say That COVID-19 Vaccines Are ‘Failing’?

Social media posts also claimed the U.S. health agency announced that the vaccinated are “superspreaders.”

www.snopes.com

You referring to this?

 

[Shannon M]

Did CDC Say That COVID-19 Vaccines Are ‘Failing’?

Social media posts also claimed the U.S. health agency announced that the vaccinated are “superspreaders.”

www.snopes.com

You referring to this?

Christ using snopes to fact check lol. They have a clear left wing bias that shapes everything.

 

[HTT]

Christ using snopes to fact check lol. They have a clear left wing bias that shapes everything.

Another one confusing being correct with ‘left wing bias’

 

[Shannon M]

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, CDC chief says | CNN

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

edition.cnn.com

And that's CNN admitting it.

Like I said before an unvaccinated person avoiding pubs and restaurants is more moral than a vaccinated person who attends pubs and restaurants.

Being vaccinated doesn't give you the right to spread the virus to whoever you like.

 

[HPKS]

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, CDC chief says | CNN

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

edition.cnn.com

And that's CNN admitting it.

Like I said before an unvaccinated person avoiding pubs and restaurants is more moral than a vaccinated person who attends pubs and restaurants.

Being vaccinated doesn't give you the right to spread the virus to whoever you like.

Don’t get vaccinated M man. The world will be a better place with you taking a stance. Vibe

 

[HTT]

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, CDC chief says | CNN

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

edition.cnn.com

And that's CNN admitting it.

Like I said before an unvaccinated person avoiding pubs and restaurants is more moral than a vaccinated person who attends pubs and restaurants.

Being vaccinated doesn't give you the right to spread the virus to whoever you like.

Can transmit =/= as infectious as unvaccinated.
If you have a lower chance of transmitting the virus, you can take part in more events that may lead to transmission, with the same level of risk overall

 

[Shannon M]

Can transmit =/= as infectious as unvaccinated.
If you have a lower chance of transmitting the virus, you can take part in more events that may lead to transmission, with the same level of risk overall

This is some twisted logic. The CDC thinks viral loads are similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated but it really doesn't matter what it is exactly because the vaccinated are more likely to take less precautions (as you're demonstrating by saying it's okay for you to attend events) therefore will be the superspreaders.

This would be like saying you have HIV but not a bad case of HIV with a high viral load, so it's okay to have unprotected sex.

 

[iameviljez]

This is some twisted logic. The CDC thinks viral loads are similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated but it really doesn't matter what it is exactly because the vaccinated are more likely to take less precautions (as you're demonstrating by saying it's okay for you to attend events) therefore will be the superspreaders.

This would be like saying you have HIV but not a bad case of HIV with a high viral load, so it's okay to have unprotected sex.

Conversely, the RACGP says that evidence is starting to mount that infectivity drops with vaccination: https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/mounting-evidence-suggests-covid-vaccines-do-reduc

 

[Shannon M]

Conversely, the RACGP says that evidence is starting to mount that infectivity drops with vaccination: https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/mounting-evidence-suggests-covid-vaccines-do-reduc

We're in August now champ, that was written in May. Try to keep up.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Are they going to ban alcohol and all that rubbish fatty food at Adelaide Oval that causes heart disease, diabetes, cancer, strokes in numbers that far exceed COVID deaths ? Or is it just COVID they (and you) are worried about?

Kochie is some jowly boomer that looks like a bottle a night man. Doesn't look like a man that cares for his health so why should I? He should stay home if he's worried about COVID.

I think you're looking at it all wrong.

It's not a health thing - it's a financial and social thing.

No vaccinations = s**t never opens up.

It's really as simple as that.

 

[iameviljez]

We're in August now champ, that was written in May. Try to keep up.

At least link this nebulous CDC source, then.

 

[Antzzz]

David Koch can go * himself