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Does anyone drink it and has anyone seen a difference whislt using it? I have just started drinking it, its noty the best tasting stuff in the world but im sure i will get use to it.
 
I use Protein powder, but only after workouts and before bed. i try and get as much protein from natural food sources as possible.
The best ones flavour wise for me were Redback soy protein and Total Protein.
 
I've been using it on and off and it does get you results but when you stop you can quickly lose what you gained if you do not keep your body supplied with protein. It also depends on what type of body shape you have to begin with on how quickly you get results.

As for the taste, if you have a chocolate one, try mixing it with milk or chuck a banana and some berries in and use it as a meal to make it taste better.

Btw, I use Natural Soy Protein, Nature's Way brand.
 
I got this protein power from the gym that i go to. I had it after my workout on saturday morning with milk. It was alright.

Why do you have it bfore you go to bed?
 

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It does work but you need to be consistant it's not an overnight thing.

I don't use it, i love my red meats and fish way more. :)
 
It's good for increasing lean muscle mass, but you have to be sure to factor it into your daily caloric intake, otherwise you'll fast become fat.
 
For muscle growth it is recommended you intake 1.5 - 2 grams of protein per kg of bodyweight. So if you are 80 kgs, obvioulsy 120-160 gms of protein per day will be required for complete repair and muscle growth.

What should also be remembered is that our bodies can only handle about 30gms of protein at a time, so if you see someone having a shake (around 20-40gms depending on brand/mix) and a brotein bar, followed by a steak, then don't follow them.

Post workout, it is best to have something that contains a moderate amount of protein, but a reasonable amount of low GI carbs to firstly replenish glycogen stores in the muscles. This should be followed by a meal/shake in about an hour or so that is higher in protein, this is when the repair and growth will actually start.

Also, read the labels on your protein pwders. Groove mentioned Redback, which isn't too bad, but they don't use the best quality protein and has a relatively high sugar level. Ideally, you are looking for Whey Protein Isolate in a powder, not Wheat protein isolate (almost useless to humans as too fibrous). Soy protein is alright, but is still inferior to whey.

And pat Smith, protein won't make you fat...it is the carbs (see sugars) in the powders to try and make them taste better that can make you fat if you don't train enough.

My suggestion to anyone who is thinking about starting any dietary supplementation is to a. Look at your diet now and analyse what you eat and how often you eat. You may not need much at all. b. Be sure you have been training long enough so that your body has a need for the supps. and c. Don't get carried away. 99% of us really only ever need a decent protein powder and good multi vitamin. Creatine, glutamine, HMB etc are great, but mostly for serious athletes with serious training loads. The average bloke who lifts some weights and jogs twice a week can do without it.
 
I don't take it anymore but when I did my weight steadily increased. Since I stopped taking it I've barely gained any weight.

So yeah, it gets the thumbs up from me. A good supplement but you still need to eat and lift.
 
outback jack said:
a quick guess would say some (not all) are you are aged 18-22 and male. Unless you are say requiring extra body mass for say competitive sport, cant see what the problem is with letting your body develop naturally.
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Im 17 and need it for u/19s...


But a few people say it doesnt work....a few say it does.....



Im undecided.
 
couldabeenanything said:
And pat Smith, protein won't make you fat...it is the carbs (see sugars) in the powders to try and make them taste better that can make you fat if you don't train enough.
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Obviously protein won't make you fat, but we aren't talking about raw protein.
 
The protein powder that i got it says have 30grams. I have it after i workout at the gym.

Is it best to have it straight after your workout or 30min-1hour after your workout. I have heard a couple of different things about when to take it.
 

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I believe the Protein poweder is more cost effective than trying to eat Meat, Fish and Tuna in Brine / Springwater all day, everyday.

I'm 100kg, so trying to eat around the 200g of protein a day from natural foods is pretty expensive.

If you're into building muscle at the gym, in addition to the protein, you should eat like an absolute animal. 8 / 9 meals a day, absolutely scoffing your face with good foods. I'm having to force myself to eat so much that occassionally I'm ready to puke.

If you want your body to grow, the nutrients have to come from somewhere.

Also recommend taking some low GI foods as well. Make you sure you have a protein shake and / or some carbs within 1/2 hour of finishing training. After finishing training you have a 1/2 hour window of opportunity to feed your muscles, otherwise your muscles enter a canabalistic state, the muscles break down and you make no progress.

If you're into Cardio and Gym work... Do your gym work first without fail. By the time you're finished and ready for Cardio, you've exhausted the Carbs from your Liver as instant energy and you're ready to use fat storages for your cardio.

Put is this way, people that do cardio for 1/2 hour only are wasting their time. Its 1/2 hour before you even touch the fat reserves.

Seeing newbies at the gym is funny. They don't understand that the effort you make in the gym, is only 1/3 of the requirements needed to make your body grow.

The other 1/3 is nutrition.

The last 1/3 is sleep. Copious amounts of it and on time every night, without fail. Your best mate who's a party animal and a drinking machine goes to bed at 4am on weekends and gets on average 6 hours a night of sleep. Your needs are completely different. You may need 8-9 hours a night every night without fail. You may need afternoon naps to supplement it as well.
 
Alkaline said:
The protein powder that i got it says have 30grams. I have it after i workout at the gym.

Is it best to have it straight after your workout or 30min-1hour after your workout. I have heard a couple of different things about when to take it.
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Spilt it.

If your needs are 150g of protein a day and you only get say 70g from your normal diet....

Split the 80g you need into 2. I presume you workout in the evening. Take half say mid-morning and the other half within 1/2 after training. Also use it on off days.

Additionally, look at the back of the Protein Packet. Compare the per 100g stats. Yours should be about 75g per 100g.

The most cost effective one I've found is the 5kg Aussie Bodies for $135. i take 40g per day, 3 times a day. So 5kg lasts me 42 days.
 
TheReason said:
I believe the Protein poweder is more cost effective than trying to eat Meat, Fish and Tuna in Brine / Springwater all day, everyday.

I'm 100kg, so trying to eat around the 200g of protein a day from natural foods is pretty expensive.

If you're into building muscle at the gym, in addition to the protein, you should eat like an absolute animal. 8 / 9 meals a day, absolutely scoffing your face with good foods. I'm having to force myself to eat so much that occassionally I'm ready to puke.

If you want your body to grow, the nutrients have to come from somewhere.

Also recommend taking some low GI foods as well. Make you sure you have a protein shake and / or some carbs within 1/2 hour of finishing training. After finishing training you have a 1/2 hour window of opportunity to feed your muscles, otherwise your muscles enter a canabalistic state, the muscles break down and you make no progress.

If you're into Cardio and Gym work... Do your gym work first without fail. By the time you're finished and ready for Cardio, you've exhausted the Carbs from your Liver as instant energy and you're ready to use fat storages for your cardio.

Put is this way, people that do cardio for 1/2 hour only are wasting their time. Its 1/2 hour before you even touch the fat reserves.

Seeing newbies at the gym is funny. They don't understand that the effort you make in the gym, is only 1/3 of the requirements needed to make your body grow.

The other 1/3 is nutrition.

The last 1/3 is sleep. Copious amounts of it and on time every night, without fail. Your best mate who's a party animal and a drinking machine goes to bed at 4am on weekends and gets on average 6 hours a night of sleep. Your needs are completely different. You may need 8-9 hours a night every night without fail. You may need afternoon naps to supplement it as well.
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I disagree with your points about gym then cardio, if you are wanting to put on muscle, your body needs nutrition straight after the workout not by putting more strain on it by going for a run. I also disagree with your +30 minute cardio routine. You dont take into account the intensity of the cardio.
How much of your 100kg body is actually muscle and what is fat?
 
Groove said:
I disagree with your points about gym then cardio, if you are wanting to put on muscle, your body needs nutrition straight after the workout not by putting more strain on it by going for a run. I also disagree with your +30 minute cardio routine. You dont take into account the intensity of the cardio.
How much of your 100kg body is actually muscle and what is fat?
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Fair enough that you disagree.

What I've figured out over the years, is that no matter what advice one gets, stick with what works for you.

Me personally, If I was to do Cardio for 30 minutes after hitting the weights.... A banana and protein shake in the changerooms and then onto the treadmill / bike / cross-trainer.

But yeah you are correct, nutrition ASAP after you've done your weights. Correct again on intensity.

100kg weight. I'd say around the 10 - 15 kg mark in terms of too much fat. I.e. If I lost that, I'd be big and ripped to shreds.

However, my goal is not to shed weight / fat at this stage, its about bulking up, without adding any more fat (if that makes sense). Once I get to the size I want, still at 100kg, then I'll get into dieting / cardio.
 
I drink three a day. 10am, pre work out and before bed. That's about 96g of protien in it's self, the rest I just get from food sources such as tuna.
 
Should you still drink it even if you dont go the gym a couple days in the week? Will it still have the same effect or will it just be a waste?
 

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Alkaline said:
Should you still drink it even if you dont go the gym a couple days in the week? Will it still have the same effect or will it just be a waste?
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As has been said already, if your looking to put on muscle 2gms protein per kilo should be your daily intake, doesnt matter if you arent going to the gym those days, your muscles still need nutrition.
 
patsmith said:
Obviously protein won't make you fat, but we aren't talking about raw protein.
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True, but it is possible to get protein with low or no carbs. Musashi make a decent one as do Aussie Bodies.
 

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