Review R22 St Kilda Saints vs GWS GIANTS

[Scully2Folau]

Round 22
St Kilda Saints vs GWS GIANTS
Etihad Stadium
Sat 25 August, 1:45pm

Teams:
St Kilda
B: Sam Gilbert, James Gwilt, Tom Simpkin
HB: Jamie Cripps, Sean Dempster, Jack Newnes
C: Farren Ray, Lenny Hayes, Brendon Goddard
HF: Arryn Siposs, Rhys Stanley, Terry Milera
F: Stephen Milne, Beau Wilkes, Ahmed Saad
Foll: Ben McEvoy, Sebastian Ross, Tom Ledger
Int: Nick Dal Santo, Leigh Montagna, Jarryn Geary, Jack Steven

Emg: Jason Gram, Daniel Markworth, Sam Dunell

In: Tom Ledger, Arryn Siposs, Terry Milera, Sebastian Ross, Jack Newnes
Out: Sam Fisher (toe), Jason Gram, Justin Koschitzke (soreness), David Armitage (soreness), Adam Schneider (foot)
New: Sebastian Ross (North Ballarat Rebels)
Milestones: Jack Steven - 50 games

GWS Giants
B: Adam Kennedy, Phil Davis, Luke Power
HB: Curtly Hampton, Chad Cornes, Sam Darley
C: James McDonald, Callan Ward, WIlliam Hoskin-Elliott
HF: Dom Tyson, Nick Haynes, Adam Tomlinson
F: Devon Smith, Jonathan Giles, Nathan Wilson
Foll: Andrew Phillips, Adam Treloar, Toby Greene
Int: Tomas Bugg, Rhys Cooyou, Rhys Palmer, Taylor Adams

Emg: Jack Hombsch, Anthony Miles, Matthew Buntine

In: Tomas Bugg, Rhys Cooyou, Adam Treloar, Nathan Wilson, Callan Ward, Rhys Palmer, Adam Tomlinson
Out: Steve Clifton, Shaun Edwards, Israel Folau (back), Tim Golds, Anthony Miles, Tom Scully (back), Matthew Buntine
New: Rhys Cooyou (East Fremantle)

 

[Scully2Folau]

Bruce, Ugle, Hombsch, Wilson and Whiley were among the best for an undermanned UWS side in their last game for the year and were mentioned in the match report as having a chance to push into the senior side in the last couple of games.

Growden and Cooyou were also noted as potential debutants for round 22 or 23, no word on Downie but you'd have to now question whether he'll get a token run ahead of Giles and Phillips.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Sheedy did say last week that Cooyou would be the next and last player for GWS to get a debut this year so on that it looks like Downie won't get a run this year but was always long term project.

Also Ward should be right to go this week but wouldn't be surprised if we didn't play him until our final home game.

 

[Scotty_222]

u guys need to drop folau.. he doesnt want to be out there

 

[stkildathunda]

Hey guys, thought id post my preview that I quickly wrote up this afternoon. Nothing special at all as I really struggled to know what to write about! Its more from Saints perspective then GWS but if anyone feels like writing something im more then happy to edit it in and combine them both. I normally try get someone to write preview from opposition perspective.

It’s been a long time coming but in Round 22 for the very first time St Kilda will face the AFL new comers, GWS at Etihad Stadium on Saturday afternoon.

GWS have surprised quite a few this season and have pushed sides in most of their games. Most people expected them to be pushovers and that their recruiting of older players was bad idea, but it has had completely opposite effect. With Power, McDonald, Cornes and Brogan in the team it has really fast tracked the development of quite a few of the kids.

Toby Greene has been the standout this year, averaging an incredible 27.5 disposals a game. He will easily win Giants B&F and if it wasn’t for a week’s suspension he would win Rising Star Award by length of Flemington straight.

GWS are already looking at next season having put a host of their young stars in for surgery.

St Kilda’s season all but came to end last Friday night when they were defeated by Geelong. With only 2 games to go it will be interesting to see how the Saints manage their players, especially this week against Giants who teams normally rest their stars against.

In back of Saints minds will be that their VFL affiliate club, Sandringham will be playing in finals for first time in 4 years and face an elimination final in Round 23. They may decide that it will be more beneficial to kids that they play finals football, even if it is at lower level and pass on opportunity to give them taste of AFL.

Its hard to know what to expect from this game, the Saints should get the job done but they will need to make sure they are on their game and not thinking about post season otherwise Giants are team that could cause big upset.

KEY MATCHUPS
Lenny Hayes vs Toby Greene – From GWS perspective I would be looking at playing Greene on Hayes so he can learn how a champion goes about his business.

Tommy Bugg vs Stephen Milne – The Tommy Bugg will have his hands full against the game’s best small forward. Milne has kicked 50 goals in 2012 and is only 10 goals behind Coleman Medal leader, Mathew Pavlich.

Chad Cornes vs Sean Dempster – In past years at Port Adelaide Chad has gone to Fisher as defensive forward to try shut his run down, but given Dempster now plays that role and is All Australian form its only matter time until clubs start trying to tag him.

Other matchups might be: Devon Smith vs Leigh Montagna andTaylor Adams vs Nick Dal Santo

MEDICAL ROOM
Nick Riewoldt failed to be get up for last week and given Saints season is all but over would be surprised if we saw him again this year.

Rhys Stanley will need to pass fitness test after suffering nasty knock to ribs in a sickening collision with Geelong’s Tom Lonergon. He has been cleared of any structural injury but you have to wonder given how important he is to future of club if they’ll just put him on ice for remainder of season as he can’t seem to get through one game without injury.

SAINTS CHANGES
Sam Dunell (16 disposals, 8 marks) was easily Saints best in Sandringham’s loss to Williamstown on Saturday. But given the state of the ground, I don’t think you can read into anyone’s performances. There was a staggering 116 stoppages in game, so that alone gives you idea of how game was played.

Jack Newnes (17 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 mark) was another one that stood out along with Raph Clarke (15 disposals, 4 marks) and Jason Blake (15 disposals, 2 marks).

Arryn Siposs (16 disposals, 2 tackles, 4 marks) wasn’t too bad although he was named in the ‘best’. Once again he appeared to play limited game time, so not sure if he’s carrying an injury and they are just managing him through season as he is vital for Zebras finals campaign.

Terry Milera (11 disposals, 3 marks) and Seb Ross (9 disposals, 1 tackle, 2 marks) were both extremely disappointing. Thought they might enjoy the conditions.

Clint Jones (15 disposals, 3 tackles, 1 mark, 1 goal) was amongst it all day but his kicking was once again well below par.

I think it’s fair to say Justin Koschitzke will find it hard to keep his spot in team after a 1 disposal game and being subbed off just after half time. Kosi didn’t record a single stat for entire first half.

When James Gwilt is at full flight he is vital to Saints success, but ever since he has returned from injury he appears to have lost all confidence and is shadow of his former self. He might benefit from playing out season in VFL and regaining some confidence.

ON THE BLOCK: Justin Koschitzke, Jamie Cripps, Rhys Stanley (injury), James Gwilt
IN THE MIX: Sam Dunell, Jack Newnes, Jason Blake, Raph Clarke, Clint Jones

MILESTONE: Jack Steven 50 games
OPEN TRAINING: Friday August 24th from 10.45am at Linen House Centre.

GIANTS CHANGES
ON THE BLOCK: Given Giants have about 7 changes a week, the entire team is on block!
IN THE MIX: Ward (if fit),Bruce, Ugle, Hombsch, Wilson, Whiley, Cooyou

 

[Scully2Folau]

Good stuff aussiethunda.

Some others in the mix which I just realised (and they've sort've gone under the radar by virtue of not being on the injury list) are Coniglio, Townsend and Tomlinson. Cogs and Townsend were late withdrawals against GC and Tomlinson copped a bruised kidney in that game so we're not sure of their status going forward.

You're not wrong in looking at the GWS changes, with those guys listed probably getting a game from the last two the raft of changes will continue.

I also just realised we've got Treloar and Bugg to come back in after being rested against Melbourne. Another handy couple of ins there haha

 

[Coleman ohAilpin]

Big chance of a win this week as long as we're not tanking.

 

[Mountain Giant]

Big chance of a win this week as long as we're not tanking.

I don't think we will stop tanking until the pick 1 is in the bag. We will probably smash North Melbourne on the last game of the season.

 

[Tas43]

Is treloar a chance to play this week? Or is he done for the year?

 

[Scully2Folau]

Seems likely that Cooyou will debut this weekend, he's been upgraded to the senior list in Tim Mohr's place (who was already on the long-term injury list).

 

[Scully2Folau]

In: Palmer, Ward, Treloar, Bugg, Tomlinson, Wilson, Cooyou
Out: Clifton, Scully, Miles, Buntine, Golds, Edwards, Folau

 

[Scully2Folau]

Some very solid ins, and disappointing outs.

I've lost count of our debutants, Cooyou the 37th? (edit: make that 36th)

 

[aussierulesrules]

You guys are $1.90 to get within 85.5 points, or win. I would be loading up on that after having seen the teams.

 

[Scully2Folau]

Two changes: Cornes (calf) and Palmer (groin) out, Miles and Buntine come in.

Kinda surprised Hombsch didn't come in for Cornes, but in a way I'm glad two of the emergencies came in.

 

[Bogan Juniors]

Adam Tomlinson just ,made the biggest stuffup of the year, Hope sheeds gives him an absolute bake for being STUPID. HAVE A SHOT OR GO BACK TO THE NEAFL

 

[Bogan Juniors]

the team has not shown up today at this rate we will be lucky to keep it under 200

 

[Scully2Folau]

Greene and Treloar especially looked buggered in the first quarter, and Treloar's coming off being rested last week.

 

[Bogan Juniors]

I hate to say this but for the first time this year I am having trouble watching this. there is NO effort and really dumb play.

 

[Scully2Folau]

Telling look on Treloar's face after he put that one through...

 

[Bogan Juniors]

Didnt watch the second half, decided to do something useful around the house before the swans game. Going by the score they put a little bit more into the second half so will watch the replay later before giving vote to anyone who deserves it.
I know we were going to have bad games this season.... but I dont have to like it.

Will still make the trip to Skoda next week........character building.