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Not the nicest of topics, but I hope that these tips are useful to some and help prevent you or those you know from becoming a victim.

I know of a related "family member" who was r*ped recently and I was so devestated to learn of this that when I next met her mother I just burst into tears hugging her and saying how sorry I was. The victim doesnt know that I know of her ordeal and nor does her father.

The upshot is that the whole immediate family is finding it very difficult to come to terms with. I wish I could help but this would betray what I secretly know.

Councilling continues but so do sleepless nights and agonising despair.

Anyhow...This was sent to my wife and daughter; its a bit long.

> > A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what
> they
> > look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:
> >
> >
> > 1) The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle.
They
> > are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other
> > hairstyle that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a
> > woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.
> >
> >
> > 2) The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women
> > who's clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors
> > around to cut clothing.
> >
> >
> > 3) They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through their
> > purse or doing other activities while walking because they are off guard
> > and can be easily overpowered.
> >
> >
> > 4) The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in
> the
> > early morning, between 5 and 8:30 a.m.
> >
> >
> > 5) The number one place women are abducted from/attacked at is grocery
> > store parking lots. Number two is office parking lots/garages. Number
> three
> > is public restrooms.
> >
> >
> > 6) The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman
and
> > quickly move her to a second location where they don't have to worry
about
> > getting caught.
> >
> >
> > 7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year
> > sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.
> >
> >
> > 8) If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged
because
> > it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you
> > isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming.
> >
> >
> > 9) These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or
> other
> > similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Keys
> are
> > not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to
> use
> > them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not
worth
> > it.
> >
> >
> > 10) Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following
> > behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or
> > stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time
> is
> > it, or make general small talk, I can't believe it is so cold out here,
> > we're in for a bad winter. Now you've seen their face and could
> > identify them in a lineup, you lose appeal as a target.
> >
> >
> > 11) If someone is coming toward you, hold out our hands in front of you
> and
> > yell Stop or Stay back! Most of the rapists this man talked to said
they'd
> > leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid
> to
> > fight back.
> >
> > Again, they are looking for an EASY target.
> >
> >
> > 12) If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it
> > and carries it with him wherever he goes), yelling I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY
and
> > holding it out will be a deterrent.
> >
> >
> > 13) If someone grabs you, you can't beat them with strength but you can
by
> > outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch
> > the attacker either under the arm between the elbow and armpit or in the
> > upper inner thigh -- HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him
> > she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and
> > was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands --
the
> > guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as
you
> > can stand it; it hurts.
> >
> >
> > 14) After the initial hit, always go for the groin. I know from a
> > particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it is
> > extremely painful. You might think that you'll anger the guy and make
him
> > want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor
is
> > that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start
causing
> > trouble, and he's out of there.
> >
> >
> > 15) When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers
and
> > bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on
> > them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much
pressure,
> > and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.
> >
> >
> > 16) Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of
> > your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any
> odd
> > behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your instincts. You may feel a
little
> > silly at the time, but you'd feel much worse if the guy really was
> trouble
 
That would be terrible. I just hope that it never happens to anyone I know, it would be so hard to deal with.
 
Thats great advice Topjars. Thanks for that. Your right, it isnt a nice topic but it has to be dealt with unfortunately. All the best to your family member and I hope her and her family can start to rebuild their lives soon.
 
That's terrific information topjars, but that seems to be taken from cases where the rapist was unknown to the victim. Unfortunately isn't it something like 3 in 4 attackers - or more - being known, and probably trusted by their victims?

Anyways, I hope your relation is all right and understands that regardless it's not her fault it happened.
 

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Originally posted by Nic
That's terrific information topjars, but that seems to be taken from cases where the rapist was unknown to the victim. Unfortunately isn't it something like 3 in 4 attackers - or more - being known, and probably trusted by their victims?

Anyways, I hope your relation is all right and understands that regardless it's not her fault it happened.

The person I know who experienced it, suffered it repeatedly. It is not a nice thing to hear about.

I hope no one has to go through it or see the damage it does.
 
What exactly constitutes rape?

Can it be "giving in" when you just can't fight anymore? Can it be saying no 20 times and then just getting it over with? Can it be being too scared to say no?

Nic's right. I absolutely sympathise with the whole attack/stranger scenario, but I think the knowing someone can be just as bad and much more common.

Regardless of how it happens, it's an extremely traumatic experience (for want of a better word) to go through. I hope your relative is able to find strength and move on from this tj.
 
im reading a book at the mo which details the stories of SEVERAL women saying that geoff clark r*ped them (the ATSIC guy). its interesting.

oh and the info u said topjars about long hair, i have long hair, but when im walking alone at night i always tuck it into my jacket.

if im wearing a beanie it makes it harder to tell from a distance if im a chick of not i think, well I THINK, lol thats why i do it!
 

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