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NQTIGER said:
What a gem this kid has turned out to be, Francis Jackson i dipd my lid to you , rarely wastes a disposal, so comfortable on the ball, we have a player with the composure of lids on the ball.
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Geee, I watched him closely last night. I reckon his kicks are a bit up and under and he sometimes looks like a rabbit in the headlights. I know I will be attacked but I don't think he looks like a pick 6.

I am currently watching heppell star in the Anzac game-you choose Conca ahead of him. Interesting decision
 
do you think he'll get a rising star nomination this year????

sorry to go off topic but why do people hate collingwood supporters?? do people hate the players or the supporters???
 
RockyBalboa said:
Geee, I watched him closely last night. I reckon his kicks are a bit up and under and he sometimes looks like a rabbit in the headlights. I know I will be attacked but I don't think he looks like a pick 6.

I am currently watching heppell star in the Anzac game-you choose Conca ahead of him. Interesting decision
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I think your a bit off on your Conca remarks, will be talked about in the same way we talk about Deledio, Cotchin and Martin. Not wrong though about Heppell, WOW, great game from him. If he hasn't won the rising star already, this is definitely his week!!!
 
Heppell a gun - but Conca promising too. Let's revisit comparing the two when they have both played 50 games.......
 

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bigstyletiger said:
He does have a lot of Marc Murph about him with his running style and lateral movement. Looks like he is going to do a good job of adding outside pace and skill as well as decision making to the side. Couldn't be happier and looks like FJ got it right. Heppell is obviously quality but this kid fits our needs and nabbing Batchelor with our second pick essentially fills the same role that Heppell is at the bombers.
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I had'nt thought of a comparison between Heppell & Batchelor, good call bigstyletiger. From what we've seen so far. I would'nt say there was a lot between them (I haven't seen as much of Heppell though) but I certainly think Batchelor would hold his own in the comparison. Plus we got Conca for our first pick too.:thumbsu:
 
delediofan3 said:
guys stop comparing or else conca will pull a tambling
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No way he is far more mentally strong then Tambling could ever dream of being judging by his psych results plus he already looks more comftorble playing in the AFL then Tambling ever has.
 
Man you can just tell this guy is gunna be a player and then some, super impressed with him this year and last night especially.
He could push Dusty next year for my man love if he keeps it up.:eek:
 
delediofan3 said:
guys stop comparing or else conca will pull a tambling
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This isn't about Conca nor was Tambling about Franklin.

The question is, now the fans have a better idea of the players given the recruiters supposedly know all and sundry about them was Conca in terms of the pick worth the risk against a more known quantity in Heppell given he trained with us. I think Conca will be a star and is a better pick than Tambling but if we knew Heppell was as good as he indicates, particularly given our defense weaknesses in the height area, why the risk. In fact why not gamble on trading older players/picks to get a pick 11-15 to get Conca, worse case scenario end up with Smith?

Don't get me wrong, I m glad we got Conca and I think he will become a great player for us. The big worry for me is why high risk was used getting him with 6 given past high risk plays of the past like Oakley Nicholls etc...

I would have picked Martin ahead of Scully and Trengrove as pick 1 in 2009 but I get the feel some of our recruiters might not have based on other selections!

Martins performance just highlights how important the draft/trade week is and recruitment is regarding premiership success and how we must support it as much as possible to get it right so we can win the flag!
 
Bojangles17 said:
i think you're trying to be a bit cute MM, from what i can glean it was the leadership qualities that Conc has that separated him from the likes of polec and hemmell....a decision that should be applauded
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I think Conca will be an All Australian rover for us but if he was picked above Heppell based on leadership then that is madness.

There are only so many captains in a club and if the players of a premiership team are so desperate for a leader to get them up then they won't win a premiership anyway. Besides, Heppells efforts onfield show great leadership under the pump in keeping his head.

The number one criteria for picking players should be ability to win a premiership for us including brains and application. Anything else including parents or perceived leadership is losing the plot. You can't judge people on their parents, or pysche tests when they are doing phsycology courses, it is not seeing the woods for the trees and using both hands!!!:(
 
Bumblers are up and firing when they get to us the bubble will be ready to burst! Will be a huge freakkin game.
 

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I wouldn't be overly concerned Magic. Conca's game against the pies last week was very impressive as well.

Heppell is quality, but you cannot pick up everybody in the top 10 and for me he would still be behind Swallow and Day.

Plus the only players we have on out list that had that 11-15 value of a pick was probably Newman and Tambling (Who we got about 17-19 for in a normal draft)

We got Batchelor who while not as good as Heppell right now certainly has shown he will be almost as good across the HB line in the future.
 
Mr Magic said:
I think Conca will be an All Australian rover for us but if he was picked above Heppell based on leadership then that is madness.

There are only so many captains in a club and if the players of a premiership team are so desperate for a leader to get them up then they won't win a premiership anyway. Besides, Heppells efforts onfield show great leadership under the pump in keeping his head.

The number one criteria for picking players should be ability to win a premiership for us including brains and application. Anything else including parents or perceived leadership is losing the plot. You can't judge people on their parents, or pysche tests when they are doing phsycology courses, it is not seeing the woods for the trees and using both hands!!!:(
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thats an absolute nonsense, if it was determined that ability wise there was not a negligible difference then of course a players leadership qualities would tilt the decision in his favour, most premiership coaches say of their group you can never have enough leaders
 
RockyBalboa said:
Geee, I watched him closely last night. I reckon his kicks are a bit up and under and he sometimes looks like a rabbit in the headlights. I know I will be attacked but I don't think he looks like a pick 6.

I am currently watching heppell star in the Anzac game-you choose Conca ahead of him. Interesting decision
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts Rocky, we were dying of curiosity to know them, since you haven't told us what you thought of Conca's drafting for a week or two now. Remind us again what you thought of Batchelor's drafting? And how Cotch was going to the Gold Coast?

Oh, and wish Ally a happy easter.
 
Bojangles17 said:
thats an absolute nonsense, if it was determined that ability wise there was not a negligible difference then of course a players leadership qualities would tilt the decision in his favour, most premiership coaches say of their group you can never have enough leaders
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How can what I say be nonsense. I am just repeating what you said !!!


First you said " leadership separated Polec, Heppell and Conca" so presumably in combination with everything else.

Now you are saying nothing separated them(they were on the same ability level) except leadership. There is a difference. So in effect you are saying Richmond placed leadership of Conca above the other clubs assessments because their general abilities couldn't be split.

The question is how was the leadership assessed and is the assessment method legitimate given it came up with values different to the other clubs?

Don't worry I think a brain is a critical ingredient on a football field.

However, where people go and make assessments on youngsters regarding leadership apart from general intelligence that is when they can drift from reality into the abstract thus the risk.

Observed leadership can be totally circumstantial regarding youth and substantiating ones position or a ego trip in some instances.

You only have to look at the lack of leadership in Australian society in general compared to other global growth engines to demonstrate the skew!!!

The problem with leadership assessment is it is a value judgement to a degree. To a degree one is placing their own values in the process to make the calculated assessment. If ones own value perception and environmental perception is biased the results will be biased particularly if ones own value framework cannot stand up to critical review or independent objective self evaluation particularly in a separate environment
 
Couldn't give a shit about Heppell good young player and played well today but also got a bath in the first half defensivley. Not just me saying that I went with two essendon mates who agreed.

Conca had 23 last week at 91% efficency and also 23 last night at 81%. That is elite disposal efficency.....

Not hating on Heppell though he will also be a gun and we have been happy with him also.
 
People who are comparing Batchalor and Heppell are way off mark. Heppell will be a premium midefielder. Batchalors going to be a backline player (very good one I hope). But not a midfielder!
 

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if we can draft more players like conca we will have done very well, the reason a couple of those lookaway handballs didnt work was because the bloke that should have been on the end of them was too stupid to even think that they might actually get the ball.

heppell was really good today, and has been all season, but i dont think he will be a permanent midfielder.
 
richoatthedisco said:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Rocky, we were dying of curiosity to know them, since you haven't told us what you thought of Conca's drafting for a week or two now. Remind us again what you thought of Batchelor's drafting? And how Cotch was going to the Gold Coast?

Oh, and wish Ally a happy easter.
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What is that about?
 
bigstyletiger said:
He does have a lot of Marc Murph about him with his running style and lateral movement. Looks like he is going to do a good job of adding outside pace and skill as well as decision making to the side. Couldn't be happier and looks like FJ got it right. Heppell is obviously quality but this kid fits our needs and nabbing Batchelor with our second pick essentially fills the same role that Heppell is at the bombers.
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Except he can kick!!
 
Obviously FJ was keen on Batchelor and was pretty sure he would get him, while i think heppell will be a star, they are too similar in position to use our first 2 picks on HBFs... Especially since we have Newman, Deledio, Connors as first options and O'reilly/Dea developing.

Conca will be a 200 gamer, he looks like cousins in traffic with his hands and movement, hopefully he learns to gut run like him but I doubt it...
 

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