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Ricky is a class batsman, wonderful fielder and supposedly has an astute cricket brain.

Why does he read pitches so poorly?

Last night wasn't the first time in his short captaincy realm that he has totally got a pitch wrong.
 
Always been my favourite player, since arriving in the aussie team. Hate it when people ride him off but yesterday was definitely a poor decision i think.
 
Zeke said:
Ricky is a class batsman, wonderful fielder and supposedly has an astute cricket brain.

Why does he read pitches so poorly?

Last night wasn't the first time in his short captaincy realm that he has totally got a pitch wrong.
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I don't think he read the pitch wrong, Lee was bowling RUBBISH, and frankly so was dizzy.
 

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dan warna said:
I don't think he read the pitch wrong, Lee was bowling RUBBISH, and frankly so was dizzy.
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Hayden and Langer were both quoted before the toss saying "Geez it looks very flat"...
 
Zeke said:
Hayden and Langer were both quoted before the toss saying "Geez it looks very flat"...
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COme on, he lee, kaspa and Dizzy were bowling rubbish in the first hour. Warne dropped a hard chance, and while their was still movement, lee was either bowling drive me balls and pull me balls.

15 overs for 111 runs tells a lot about the RUBBISH he was bowling.
 
Zeke said:
Were we watching the same game?
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come on lee was smacked for four, he then bowled another rubbish ball and wash smacked for four again, Dizzy wasn't that much better, but he was better, Kaspa took a beating but by then Lee had bowled the batsmen into form.

I think if he bowled with a little intelligence we might have got a few wickets earlier, warne dropped one chance.

Add to that what was it 15 or 18 overs for 111??? come on, that was RUBBISH.
 
dan warna said:
come on lee was smacked for four, he then bowled another rubbish ball and wash smacked for four again, Dizzy wasn't that much better, but he was better, Kaspa took a beating but by then Lee had bowled the batsmen into form.

I think if he bowled with a little intelligence we might have got a few wickets earlier, warne dropped one chance.

Add to that what was it 15 or 18 overs for 111??? come on, that was RUBBISH.
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Our bowler's performance doesn't change the fact that the pitch was better for batting than it was for bowling.

I could well have been us with 400 at the end of day one and England with a lot of chasing to do. Ricky made a bad call, that much is clear.
 
Zeke said:
Ricky is a class batsman, wonderful fielder and supposedly has an astute cricket brain.

Why does he read pitches so poorly?

Last night wasn't the first time in his short captaincy realm that he has totally got a pitch wrong.
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in fairness i was reading reports all week about how its going to be underprepared, and that you must bowl first if you win etc..... just one of those things... i reckon england would have bowled. underprepared normally means its good for bowlers not batters, but maybe he should have with gut instinct.. which is always bat first....

Will the pitch be worse today?
 
dan warna said:
COme on, he lee, kaspa and Dizzy were bowling rubbish in the first hour. Warne dropped a hard chance, and while their was still movement, lee was either bowling drive me balls and pull me balls.

15 overs for 111 runs tells a lot about the RUBBISH he was bowling.
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yes the bowling wasn't great... but that pitch was dead. nothing in it.
 
Lets assume he thought there was something in the track, as soon as McGrath went down he should have looked at his bowling strengths and realised bowling on a fourth Innings deck was more likely going to suit Warne (his number one bowler) more. Betting first has always been the preferred option. Given the English perfomance, we should have batted. Especially after McGrath went down!

Poor decision making.
 

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skipper kelly said:
He doesnt plan on batting twice.
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I was just thinking that.

I remember we made 400 in a test match against the windians, and then watched as they tore a hole through us scoring 600 and hammered us in the second inning.

Boon and marsh had a 200 run opening partnership in the first innings, and held out for 50 in the second...

That was here too.

I am hoping that we can see similar batting from the aussies.
 
yeah definitely a strange decision considering the mcgrath situation. the next few days will tell us whether it was genius or a disaster.

england have blown a huge chance to post 500+ so now our plan would be to bat for 2days and make 650 and bowl england out for 100 with warney taking 8-35 of 25 overs :D
 
punter257 said:
yeah definitely a strange decision considering the mcgrath situation. the next few days will tell us whether it was genius or a disaster.

england have blown a huge chance to post 500+ so now our plan would be to bat for 2days and make 650 and bowl england out for 100 with warney taking 8-35 of 25 overs :D
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which means not letting lee bowl.
 

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punter257 said:
yeah definitely a strange decision considering the mcgrath situation. :D
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What has the McGrath injury got to do with it? They still have to bowkl at some stage, Punter gambled that if there was going to be anything in the track it would have been in the first morning. A dropped catch and wicket off a no-ball could have made things totally different. Thats cricket.
 
I understand your point Zeke, however I don't think it was the wrong decision at the time. The pitch was always going to be a road, as Birmingham invariably is - however there was always the distinct possibility that the moisture under the pitch was going to do something. As we know, it ended up giving no help, but you always bowl first at Birmingham, even without Pidgeon.
 
ViperV10 said:
I understand your point Zeke, however I don't think it was the wrong decision at the time. The pitch was always going to be a road, as Birmingham invariably is - however there was always the distinct possibility that the moisture under the pitch was going to do something. As we know, it ended up giving no help, but you always bowl first at Birmingham, even without Pidgeon.
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Only 8 teams have fielded first and won at Birmingham in over 100 years.
 
whats the recent record?

I heard that the side that bats second won most the recent games?
 
dan warna said:
whats the recent record?

I heard that the side that bats second won most the recent games?
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The last 3 or so games where the team which has fielded first has gone on to win the game by an innings. According to Ch4.
 

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