Rorts

[dan warna]

He is currently entitled to this allowance. Where he chooses to stay is totally up to himself. The blame shouldn't fall on Turnbull rather it should rest with the system that allows him to "exploit" this loophole.

I concur, I encourage all Australians to take steps to legally minimise their taxation and maximise their allowances and rebates.

this is the attitude we should all take.

sure people might be suspicious of a divorced couple living in the same house but I can't let my former wife use my house for free? I mean really, and rent assistance is there to help those who can't afford.

and without an income and only what Im obliged to pay my wife, she would be entitled to centrelink payments right?

who cares about what assets she may have written in my name?

 

[CharlieG]

I concur, I encourage all Australians to take steps to legally minimise their taxation and maximise their allowances and rebates.

this is the attitude we should all take.

I hope that, conversely, you believe in eliminating any unfair loopholes and increased targeting of allowances and rebates.

 

[dan warna]

I hope that, conversely, you believe in eliminating any unfair loopholes and increased targeting of allowances and rebates.

loopholes? i hardly think this is a loophole. If it was the opposition would be jumping up and down.

as for targetting allowances.... you dont really think they'll be targetting those who genuinely need it do you?

now do you know a good fast effective way for my wife and I to end our marriage and set up our financial arrangements for the sole purpose of handouts from the government and reduced taxation?

its the right thing to do

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[CharlieG]

loopholes? i hardly think this is a loophole. If it was the opposition would be jumping up and down.

Getting paid $175 to compensate him for the cost of staying in his own house? Yes, that qualifies as a loophole to me.

as for targetting allowances.... you dont really think they'll be targetting those who genuinely need it do you?

Sorry - was referring to rebates like the private health insurance rebate and lump sum cash-splashing like the baby bonus. In other words, middle-class welfare.

now do you know a good fast effective way for my wife and I to end our marriage and set up our financial arrangements for the sole purpose of handouts from the government and reduced taxation?

its the right thing to do

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

My next door neighbours at my former house had been divorced for about twenty years. They get along fine now and have lived together as long as I've known them. Better friends than lovers, I guess.

 

[dan warna]

Getting paid $175 to compensate him for the cost of staying in his own house? Yes, that qualifies as a loophole to me.



Sorry - was referring to rebates like the private health insurance rebate and lump sum cash-splashing like the baby bonus. In other words, middle-class welfare.



My next door neighbours at my former house had been divorced for about twenty years. They get along fine now and have lived together as long as I've known them. Better friends than lovers, I guess.

no one is going to remove it unless the media embarrass the politicians enough, and the story doesn't have enough legs to get people enraged at the moment.

middle class welfare???? Its about choice? dont you read the posts by the liberal cheer squad???

Im sure your neighbours are maximising their legal entitlements. Should be more of it. If people knew how much they could reduce their taxable income and increase their rebates by correctly structuring their relationships, Im sure an enforced change in legislation would occur very quickly, as occured with 1 person companies/consultancies and forced a restructure to trading trusts etc etc.

its not a loophole if its legal.

I think if people were educated enough about how they could minimise their taxes in the similar fashion of our business leaders, the law would change quickly.

 

[skipper kelly]

They might not mean anything to you.

The only issue is do they mean anything to the politicians.

Can you cite just a single piece of evidence that supports this notion that higher pay will result in better public representatives?

So do you believe the current system is attracting the best possible candidates? I dont. I also dont equate higher pay to greed. I dont equate wealth to greed. Many people do jobs they love but are also paid accordingly. It is my opinion that if the policitians where paid significantly higher wages then the net of candidates would increase.

FFS a bloke by the name of John Howard has led this country for how many years? Who has been his opposition? If you tell me that these people are the best we can get then its a sad and sorry situation.

No. I never said that politicians should not receive a salary. I simply rejected the notion that it should be massively increased.

You have completely avoided the issue. You stated that Turnbull is worth $125m and by claiming this allowance shows his values. I ask you what the cut off point is regarding wealth (dollars) and claiming allowances.

He's the Member for Wentworth which currently has a 2.6% margin. Demographic changes are such that, probably within the next couple of years, it's becoming a probable Labor seat. Whether he keeps his head above water is going to be directly linked to his own massive profile. He should be a cleanskin in his own best interest.

As I said, dumb politics. One thing - and one thing only - that I've learned that Turnbull can be relied on for. That is letting his insatiable ego get in the way of appealing to voters.

This is only your opinion of Turnbull and has nothing to do with the issue, but it does show what angle you are coming from.

 

[dan warna]

The only issue is do they mean anything to the politicians.



So do you believe the current system is attracting the best possible candidates? I dont. I also dont equate higher pay to greed. I dont equate wealth to greed. Many people do jobs they love but are also paid accordingly. It is my opinion that if the policitians where paid significantly higher wages then the net of candidates would increase.

FFS a bloke by the name of John Howard has led this country for how many years? Who has been his opposition? If you tell me that these people are the best we can get then its a sad and sorry situation.




You have completely avoided the issue. You stated that Turnbull is worth $125m and by claiming this allowance shows his values. I ask you what the cut off point is regarding wealth (dollars) and claiming allowances.





This is only your opinion of Turnbull and has nothing to do with the issue, but it does show what angle you are coming from.

I dont think money has had anything to do with attracting the best people for politics.

even if the greatest potential leader for the betterment of all creatures was to run for parliament he would have to play the political game to gain a seat, then lead the party.

there is an endless supply of candidates for parliament and frankly great leaders can't be bothered wtih the system unless they get fast tracked to power.

additional money (20k p/a tax free) over their other entitlements and a generous salary is hardly inducement when they are probably on close to a 200k salary anyway.

if thats the division between a great politician and an ordinary politician, I think you have a basket case government anyway.

Greed? I think he is being greedy, I think its hardly a legitimate situation when you are paying $175 a night rent.

frankly a nice house close to the city costs about 2k per month, and he is paying close 2k per week.

he is definately taking advantage of the situation and so be it.

I encourage all australians to do exactly the same.

as it being turnipballs, frankly this has been going on for decades if not not longer in Australia. This flared up about a decade ago and both sides of parliament were caught with their pants down, hence Rudds informal truce on this issue.

he would know a fair few of his pigs in teh trough as well.

 

[skipper kelly]

I dont think money has had anything to do with attracting the best people for politics.

even if the greatest potential leader for the betterment of all creatures was to run for parliament he would have to play the political game to gain a seat, then lead the party.

there is an endless supply of candidates for parliament and frankly great leaders can't be bothered wtih the system unless they get fast tracked to power.

additional money (20k p/a tax free) over their other entitlements and a generous salary is hardly inducement when they are probably on close to a 200k salary anyway.

if thats the division between a great politician and an ordinary politician, I think you have a basket case government anyway.

Isnt the polical system a basket case. You only need to watch question time.

Greed? I think he is being greedy, I think its hardly a legitimate situation when you are paying $175 a night rent.

frankly a nice house close to the city costs about 2k per month, and he is paying close 2k per week.

Go look up wotif.com and see what $175 a night gets you.

I encourage all australians to do exactly the same.

They do.

 

[- PC -]

This is only your opinion of Turnbull and has nothing to do with the issue, but it does show what angle you are coming from.

But if there are enough charlies in his elctorate or those in other electorates who share the same opinion then there could be political trouble

The determining factor is who want to make a right charlie of themselves

 

[skipper kelly]

But if there are enough charlies in his elctorate or those in other electorates who share the same opinion then there could be political trouble

I dont think those charlies would vote for him even if he donated his entire fortune to feed the world.

The determining factor is who want to make a right charlie of themselves

There are plenty of right charlies, although our charlie is not one of them.

 

[dan warna]

Isnt the polical system a basket case. You only need to watch question time.



Go look up wotif.com and see what $175 a night gets you.



They do.

Bentley Suites

www.bentleysuites.com.au


Cnr Canberra Ave & Dominion Circuit
Forrest ACT 2603

02-6124 0000

1300 366 826
02-6124 0100
$139
one bedroom

$160
two bedroom

valid till Jun06
4½
3 minutes walk
Serviced apartments, data ports, gym, heated pool, secure parking, barbecue area, breakfast available. No lifts and no restaurant. Walk/taxi to shops and restaurants at Manuka & Kingston.


Brassey Hotel Canberra

www.brassey.net.au



Belmore Gardens
Barton ACT 2600
02-6273 3766
02-6273 2791
standard
$110 single
$124 double

heritage room
$144 single
$158 double

includes breakfast

valid till Apr06

3½
5 minutes walk
Restaurant, bar and conference facilities.

Griffin Apartment Hotel

www.griffinhotels.com

Cnr Tench & Giles Sts
Kingston ACT 2604

02-6234 8000
02-6239 5959
$190
one bedroom

4½
Complimentary shuttle bus service

5 minutes by taxi
or 15 minutes walk
Serviced apartments with fully self-contained kitchen. Restaurant/café & bar, gym, conference facilities. Opposite shopping centre and restaurants.



Barton/Forrest Area


HOTEL NAME

ADDRESS

TEL

FAX
GOVT
RATES
PER NIGHT
STAR
RATING
DISTANCE FROM AUSTRADE OFFICE


COMMENTS

Hyatt Hotel Canberra

www.hyatt.com.au

Commonwealth Ave
Yarralumla ACT 2600

02-6270 1234
02-6281 5998
$270 standard

$335 spa room
5
5 minutes by taxi
Canberra’s only 5 star hotel. Surrounded by landscaped gardens, close to Parliament House and government offices.


Medina Classic Canberra

www.medinaapartments.com.au

11 Giles Street
Kingston ACT 2604

02-6239 8100

1300 300 232

02-6239 7226
$139 one b/rm

$159 two b/rm

4½
5 minutes by taxi, 15 minutes walk
Comfortable apartments, close to shops and restaurants. Indoor heated pool, gym, sauna & outdoor pool & spa.


Pinnacle Apartments

www.pinnacleapartments.com.au

11 Ovens Street
Kingston ACT 2604

02-6239 9799

1800 637 770
02-6239 6418
$152 two b/rm

$190 three bm

Valid till Jun06

4
5 minutes by taxi
Fully equipped kitchen & laundry, spa, gym, solar pool, conference facility.


Rydges Capital Hill

www.rydges.com/capitalhill


Cnr Canberra Ave & National Circuit
Forrest ACT 2603

02-6295 3144

1800 020 011
02-6295 3325
Preferred hotel

$149

4½
2 minutes walk, diagonally across the road from Austrade’s office
Restaurant, café, heated pool, sauna, gym, spacious rooms, desk, car parking and conference facilities.


York Canberra Boutique Hotel

www.yorkcanberra.com.au

31 Giles Street
Kingston ACT 2604

02-6295 2333
02-6295 9559
$170 studio

$200 one b/rm
4½
5 minutes by taxi
or 15 minutes walk
Café, restaurant.
Metres from shops and restaurants.



City Area


HOTEL NAME
ADDRESS
TEL
FAX
GOVT
RATES
PER NIGHT
STAR
RATING
DISTANCE FROM AUSTRADE OFFICE
COMMENTS

Capital Executive Apartments – Comfort Inn & Suites

www.ceahotel.com.au

108 Northbourne Ave
Braddon ACT 2612

02-6243 8333

1800 026 129
02-6248 8011
$115 studio

$135 one b/rm with spa

4
10 minutes by taxi
Short stroll to city centre. Italian restaurant, gym, sauna.

Chifley on Northbourne

www.chifleyhotels.com

102 Northbourne Ave
Braddon ACT 2612

02-6249 1411
02-6249 6878
$131
deluxe


4½
10 minutes by taxi
2 minutes drive to the city centre. Restaurant/bar, conference facilities, gym and pool.


Comfort Inn Downtown

www.comfortinn.com.au

82 Northbourne Ave
Canberra ACT 2601

02-6249 1388
02-6247 2523
$95 standard

$140 deluxe


3
10 minutes by taxi
Short stroll to city centre.
Restaurant/bar & gym.


Crowne Plaza Canberra

www.crowneplaza.com/cpcanberra

1 Binara Street
Canberra City
ACT 2601

02-6247 8999

1300 363 300


02-6257 4903
$169 stand

4½
10 minutes by taxi

Located in CBD, overlooking Glebe Park, close to restaurants, casino & entertainment. Heated pool, sauna, gym.


Medina Executive James Court

www.medinaapartments.com.au

74 Northbourne Ave
Canberra City
ACT 2601

02-6240 1234

1300 300 232
02-6240 1235
Preferred hotel

$139
one bedroorm apartment

4½
10 minutes by taxi
Apartments in city.
Fully equipped kitchen & laundry, spa bath & balcony. Room service, dry cleaning & laundry service, pool, spa, gym sauna. Restaurant on site. Parking $5/night.
2 bedrm apartment $180


City Area

HOTEL NAME
ADDRESS
TEL
FAX
GOVT
RATES
PER NIGHT
STAR
RATING
DISTANCE FROM AUSTRADE OFFICE
COMMENTS

Novotel Canberra

www.accorhotels.com.au

65 Northbourne Ave
Canberra City
ACT 2601
02-6245 5000

1300 656 565

02-6245 5100
Preferred hotel

$149 standard


4
10 minutes by taxi
Restaurant, coffee shop, gym, heated indoor pool, sauna, spa, modem ports, undercover parking and conference facilities.


Quest Apartments

www.questapartments.com.au

Melbourne Building
28 West Row
Canberra City
ACT 2601

02-6243 2222
02-6243 2288
$120 studio

$145 one b/rm

Valid till Mar06
4
8 minutes by taxi
Boutique apartments in the heart of CBD. Fully equipped kitchen, laundry, data ports, breakfast packs available.


Rydges Lakeside Canberra

www.rydges.com


London Circuit
Canberra City
ACT 2601

02-6247 6244

1800 026 169

02-6257 3071
$125
3½

10 minutes by taxi
Restaurant, coffee shop, heated pool, car parking and conference facilities. Short stroll to city centre.


Saville Park Suites

www.savillesuites.com.au


84 Northbourne Ave
Canberra ACT 2601

02-6243 2500

1800 630 588

02-6243 2599
$130
hotel room
$159
one bedroom apartment
valid till Jun06

4½

10 minutes by taxi
Short stroll to city centre. Restaurant, bar, indoor heated pool, sauna, gym, undercover secure parking, 24 hour reception and room service.


Waldorf Apartments

www.waldorfcanberra.com.au

Cnr London Circuit & Akuna Street
Canberra City
ACT 2601
02-6229 1234

1800 188 388
02-6229 1235
$155 studio

$175 one b/rm


4½

10 minutes by taxi
Full kitchen facilities. Heated indoor lap pool, spa, sauna, gym, half tennis court & BBQ . One bedroom with full office also available.

 

[skipper kelly]

so $175 a night is far from excessive. Cheers Dan.

 

[dan warna]

so $175 a night is far from excessive. Cheers Dan.

thats for motels

$400 p/w is more suitable for houses.

http://www.realestate.com.au/realestate/rental+properties/canberra+act/houses

then again, you get $10 extra if the owner of the house stays with you as well

as opposed to hotels which give up to 25% discount if your government, as opposed to houses your missus owns where they charge you 100% surcharge if your government...

 

[skipper kelly]

thats for motels

$400 p/w is more suitable for houses.

http://www.realestate.com.au/realestate/rental+properties/canberra+act/houses

then again, you get $10 extra if the owner of the house stays with you as well

So you expect all politicians to find a rental house for every time they visit Canberra. Yeah, that sounds like the real world.

 

[dan warna]

So you expect all politicians to find a rental house for every time they visit Canberra. Yeah, that sounds like the real world.

given that he is in canberra for on at least 100 days of the year he could afford to lease a property for $20k per annum...then again we have the tax payer paying the mortgage on his wife property.

mmm maybe I should just sell everything from the grocery store I buy to my wife and then she can write it off as a loss and she can claim the GST back

that $100 for the apple dear.

its b2b should be fine.

so many husband wife business transactions are being inspired by this transaction.

every politician should have his or her partner buy a house so we, the taxpayer can pay off the mortgage!!!!

 

[skipper kelly]

given that he is in canberra for on at least 100 days of the year he could afford to lease a property for $20k per annum...then again we have the tax payer paying the mortgage on his wife property.

mmm maybe I should just sell everything from the grocery store I buy to my wife and then she can write it off as a loss and she can claim the GST back

that $100 for the apple dear.

its b2b should be fine.

so many husband wife business transactions are being inspired by this transaction.

every politician should have his or her partner buy a house so we, the taxpayer can pay off the mortgage!!!!

youre ranting again Dan.

 

[dan warna]

youre ranting again Dan.

ranting? I think Im being inspired

so many great ideas are coming out of this.

I'd love to find a way for the taxpayer to fund me staying in a house that belongs to my wife

maybe some GST B2B transactions?

 

[skipper kelly]

ranting? I think Im being inspired

so many great ideas are coming out of this.

I'd love to find a way for the taxpayer to fund me staying in a house that belongs to my wife

maybe some GST B2B transactions?

Who is your supplier Dan. I want some.

 

[dan warna]

Who is your supplier Dan. I want some.

hopefully the taxpayer.

vote 1 Dan Warna

I need the travel Allowance for my third house

 

[whythelongface]

given that he is in canberra for on at least 100 days of the year he could afford to lease a property for $20k per annum...then again we have the tax payer paying the mortgage on his wife property.

Based on your argument and the figure you are quoting there is no real difference whom he pays the rental allowance to. It ends up costing the taxpayer the same at any rate - it is a smart move if he is able to contribute the travel allowance money back into an investment property owned by his wife.

 

[dan warna]

Based on your argument and the figure you are quoting there is no real difference whom he pays the rental allowance to. It ends up costing the taxpayer the same at any rate - it is a smart move if he is able to contribute the travel allowance money back into an investment property owned by his wife.

yes so all politicians should do it. I can see a time when every politician has a taxpayer funded house for their spouse.

also I can't see why senior public servants and senior business officials have it as well.

everyone's Partner should have a taxpayer funded house!!!!!

but if you look at house rental prices they are about 1/2 of room rental in a motel

further if he's allowed to to do this, then even ACT politicians should be allowed to stay at their partners house if they dont have a house of their own (read stamp duty peppercorn transfer to partner )

 

[Pessimistic]

God it was hard work but the Libs finally found a replacement for Reith.

When considering whether being mega rich is an issue for politicians ask yourself this.

Would Malcolm Turnbull be personally better or worse off if interest rates rise ?

 

[stickman11]

yes so all politicians should do it. I can see a time when every politician has a taxpayer funded house for their spouse.

also I can't see why senior public servants and senior business officials have it as well.

everyone's Partner should have a taxpayer funded house!!!!!

but if you look at house rental prices they are about 1/2 of room rental in a motel

further if he's allowed to to do this, then even ACT politicians should be allowed to stay at their partners house if they dont have a house of their own (read stamp duty peppercorn transfer to partner )

They should try living on a real wage. They are the biggest ********s going around. I don't see why I should have to work and pay taxes so they can pay themselves excessive allowances. $190 dollars a night. Who bloody well earns 190 a day?

 

[goalpie]

Who wants to rent my garrage for $190.00 a night.

If it was ever acceptable to throw dog turds at people polies would be the first. A ******** for a ********.

 

[markstaners]

If im not mistaken politicians get special rates for hotels!