Player Watch Scott Pendlebury

[gouki88]

Moore and Grundy would be my last 2 selections for captains.

Adams, Maynard and Crisp streets ahead of Moore and Grundy.

Both Moore and Grundy are Laconic and drop their heads. Both have also held the club ransom for contracts in the past and we need to stop allowing that.

Hilarious.

 

[Collingwoodity]

Solid decision. Is still clearly 22 so no need to... as others have said... to make any more major changes

And gives Fly and co a year to look closely at the possible successors

Is in our best 1 players in a fair few games.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Hilarious.

Exactly. Team mates will drive the selection and left field perceptions of a few punters won’t hold any weight.

 

[sr36]

I love Pendles and am happy that he is continuing as captain. If you want to see who stands up in important games, check out the 2018 GF stats.

No doubt that Adams has been excellent in big games, but that is irrelevant to his performance as captain. His play has dropped significantly when he's played as captain.

Personally, I think his strengths are wrong for the role. It's his tunnel vision that makes him a good player, but the role of on-field leadership these days involves a lot of directing traffic, which requires a more peripheral view.

 

[jmac70]

No doubt that Adams has been excellent in big games, but that is irrelevant to his performance as captain. His play has dropped significantly when he's played as captain.

Personally, I think his strengths are wrong for the role. It's his tunnel vision that makes him a good player, but the role of on-field leadership these days involves a lot of directing traffic, which requires a more peripheral view.

He struggled with his knee last year. Can’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be a good captain.

 

[sr36]

He struggled with his knee last year. Can’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be a good captain.

He's a great example to follow, but I think on-field leadership these days is more about directing traffic than just setting an example. I want him doing what he does best - focussing solely on the sherrin and smashing in to get it, rather than worrying about where others should be.

 

[jathanas]

A post will be deleted if it includes insults and personal abuse. Even if it includes good points.

This is a shame because we deprive the conversation of those ideas.

Resist flinging mud.

Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5

 

[Mollythedolly]

The bloke who throws tantrums when umpire decisions go against him and gives away 50s?

Yeah... probably not.

Please provide the evidence. How many 50’s has Maynard has conceded across his 138 games and list those specifically that have been given as a result of tantrums.

 

[Mollythedolly]

A post will be deleted if it includes insults and personal abuse. Even if it includes good points.

This is a shame because we deprive the conversation of those ideas.

Resist flinging mud.

Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5

Can you also delete the posts that contain obviously made up bullshit like the claim Maynard is too emotive and gives away 50s as a consequence. By my count it was 1 occasion across 138 games and 7 years so it’s hardly a pattern of behavior that would/should preclude him from leadership consideration if he’s interested.

 

[jmac70]

Predictions for the rest of the leadership group?

Adams, Darcy and Grundy.

Could there be a smoky for a fifth member?

 

[Kappa]

Predictions for the rest of the leadership group?

Adams, Darcy and Grundy.

Could there be a smoky for a fifth member?

I like Roughead, very good head on his shoulders, not emotional, no fuss just gets the job done. Maybe too old though

 

[Mkcaptain]

Predictions for the rest of the leadership group?

Adams, Darcy and Grundy.

Could there be a smoky for a fifth member?

You'd expect Steele to be included again

 

[jmac70]

You'd expect Steele to be included again

Not sure he will be.

 

[Kappa]

You'd expect Steele to be included again

"Police then found Sidebottom intoxicated and shirtless in the Melbourne suburb of Williamstown in the early hours of the morning"

 

[Mkcaptain]

"Police then found Sidebottom intoxicated and shirtless in the Melbourne suburb of Williamstown in the early hours of the morning"

Didn't stop him from being included last year. Although maybe the new regime will have higher leadership standards

 

[Mollythedolly]

Predictions for the rest of the leadership group?

Adams, Darcy and Grundy.

Could there be a smoky for a fifth member?

Sidey or Howe?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The bloke who throws tantrums when umpire decisions go against him and gives away 50s?

Yeah... probably not.

Sounds like Nick Maxwell!!!

 

[jmac70]

"Police then found Sidebottom intoxicated and shirtless in the Melbourne suburb of Williamstown in the early hours of the morning"

That happens to me every other weekend. Nothing to see…

 

[jathanas]

Sidey or Howe?

Howe by the length of the Flemington straight (in my view anyway); sets a better example. Sidebottom is a good egg but needs to focus on himself. Potentially needs some level of reinvention.

 

[The Phantom]

We have enough veterans in the leadership group. We need emerging leaders added and taught how to play the role. No point adding extra leaders right now if they’re over 27 or so.

But I agree, Roughead and Howe are great candidates, shame they will only be around so long.

 

[sr36]

We have enough veterans in the leadership group. We need emerging leaders added and taught how to play the role. No point adding extra leaders right now if they’re over 27 or so.

But I agree, Roughead and Howe are great candidates, shame they will only be around so long.

But who? The problem is that the 21-25 group has no-one suitable and the under 21 group are too young - not yet established.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I’d like to see some next generation leaders in that leadership group. Moore is an obvious one but I’d also consider the likes of Crisp and Maynard. Daicos and Quaynor are probably a bit too young but I’d be hoping all players get considered and the club thinks a bit left field. If probably forgotten some names... it’s the off season!

 

[sr36]

But who? The problem is that the 21-25 group has no-one suitable and the under 21 group are too young - not yet established.

Probably need to hand the reins to the Grundy Moore Maynard age group to take over from the seniors, for some years until hopefully some of the under 21s put their hand up.

 

[Scodog10]

I’d like to see some next generation leaders in that leadership group. Moore is an obvious one but I’d also consider the likes of Crisp and Maynard. Daicos and Quaynor are probably a bit too young but I’d be hoping all players get considered and the club thinks a bit left field. If probably forgotten some names... it’s the off season!

Why is that? Aside from being a very good footballer how can we make that judgement? Because the only evidence we have (ability aside) is his approach to contracts. Like Grundy he marches to the best of his own drum which is fine in an unofficial capacity, but Moore needs to be better in order to be considered an obvious leadership candidate in my eyes.

A good starting point would be to re-sign long term before the season starts for below what he could get on the open market. Stop piss farting with short term deals and lead by the front by committing long term (let’s say 4-5 years at $800k).

I very much agree with the other 4 names depending on which Daicos you were referencing (Nick will be our next generational captain as early as 2025).

 

[Mollythedolly]

We have enough veterans in the leadership group. We need emerging leaders added and taught how to play the role. No point adding extra leaders right now if they’re over 27 or so.

But I agree, Roughead and Howe are great candidates, shame they will only be around so long.

Beyond the captain, while it sends a message I think there’s a fair degree of tokenism in the squad named in those supporting roles. Leaders will lead irrespective of any tag they’re given or not given.