Serhat Temel

[starchamber]

If you can judge a player by the colour of his skin then mister your a better man than I.

He's from Victoria by the way

Nah you know what i mean what his background,middle eastern and it's Turkish i read. I'm just saying European and middle Eastern dudes + Maori are more manly and don't act like women like the young guys who wax their hairs like a woman down here and in England.

 

[Cruiser23]

As long as he can play footy, and there is something to work with, then I reckon he is well worth an investment over 2 years. Some of these "tests" that the guys do at draft camp are a bit irrelevant if you ask me. Things like beep tests, the 3km time trial, shuttle runs, etc, etc only show how much stamina and fitness these guys have at that present time. Give them a full preseason at an AFL club, and I bet there results would be quite different.

I think there is your issue...

People get carried away with under-aged form, plenty on here forget to think whether this form can translate into form at AFL level because it is obviously a totally different story. Temel is a big fella and uses that to his advantage against the small, less mature (physically) defenders. Now, he can potentially do the same at AFL though you definitely can't rely on that. His agility is poor, he struggles to get off the ground and he isn't that quick off the mark. Not to mention the only position he can play is out of the goal square, not sure that would excite many recruiters.

 

[HBF]

I think there is your issue...

People get carried away with under-aged form, plenty on here forget to think whether this form can translate into form at AFL level because it is obviously a totally different story. Temel is a big fella and uses that to his advantage against the small, less mature (physically) defenders. Now, he can potentially do the same at AFL though you definitely can't rely on that. His agility is poor, he struggles to get off the ground and he isn't that quick off the mark. Not to mention the only position he can play is out of the goal square, not sure that would excite many recruiters.

I'd still take a punt on him C23. I will say that I haven't seen much of the kids this year, but what I have seen of him gives me hope that if he got into a professional organisation, they could develop him into an AFL player.

I would have thought this year would present an even greater opportunity to take a punt on a player, given the 17 year olds that have signed with GC17, and the general perception that the draft thins out around 40ish.

 

[Pafloyul]

I think there is your issue...

People get carried away with under-aged form, plenty on here forget to think whether this form can translate into form at AFL level because it is obviously a totally different story. Temel is a big fella and uses that to his advantage against the small, less mature (physically) defenders. Now, he can potentially do the same at AFL though you definitely can't rely on that. His agility is poor, he struggles to get off the ground and he isn't that quick off the mark. Not to mention the only position he can play is out of the goal square, not sure that would excite many recruiters.

That's a bit rich coming from us. I think we are one of the teams that does that kind of thing the most except we don't often have the opportunity to take that attitude with KPPs. In fact - under-age form might be the reason we are not exactly blessed with true key-position talent because they take longer to develop and often rely on the strength of their midfield.

As a matter of fact, our list seems to live and die on form displayed in the under 18s nationals tempered with an immediate needs based criteria. Some of it works and some of it doesn't; I bet if Temel was picked in the championships and had he managed to perform well (which is quite likely) then we'd be all over him. Temel is bigger than Panos and he is a Victorian, after all.

Having said all that, there are a few KPFs that I'd rate ahead of him but to dismiss him outright is folly.

 

[Cruiser23]

That's a bit rich coming from us. I think we are one of the teams that does that kind of thing the most except we don't often have the opportunity to take that attitude with KPPs. In fact - under-age form might be the reason we are not exactly blessed with true key-position talent because they take longer to develop and often rely on the strength of their midfield.

As a matter of fact, our list seems to live and die on form displayed in the under 18s nationals tempered with an immediate needs based criteria. Some of it works and some of it doesn't; I bet if Temel was picked in the championships and had he managed to perform well (which is quite likely) then we'd be all over him. Temel is bigger than Panos and he is a Victorian, after all.

Having said all that, there are a few KPFs that I'd rate ahead of him but to dismiss him outright is folly.

Not sure what the first two statement have to do with me, maybe you need to take it up with Hughes himself rather than somewhat taking your displeasure out on me? All i was saying, people here get hard when a fella kicks a few goals or manages 30 touches but totally dismiss whether that player can produce a similar output at the next level. There are a number of players who dominate at the under-aged level but don't get drafted highly because their game doesn't really translate to the AFL level. Where is the improvement in Temel's game going to come from? How much of an output will he have against big strong defenders? What happens when he gets a Merrett on him?

I've personally got no problem in dismissing him and not wanting to select him in the 'National Draft' and calling me folly for doing so, especially coming from you of all people is rich. I got no problem in being wrong, if he comes out and becomes a half a dozen year AFL player you can all say i told you so but i'm confident in my assessment of him.

 

[Salaryman]

Good reply C23, knowing you and your attendance rate at games, and from what I have seen with my eyes, I'm willing to back in your judgment on that one

 

[thylacine60]

Think it's important we remember not all big lumbering young fellas is potatoes.

 

[TGR]

Think it's important we remember not all big lumbering young fellas is potatoes.

He's not a spud. Even if he at best has a solid VFL career then thats better than most of the population has from the time they first pick up a footy. There are no spuds at AFL level, all are very capable footballers. Movement is not everything but it's huge and Serhat is fighting an uphill battle the equivalent of Hillary when it comes to the elite level on that front.

I wish him all the best but it's going to be bloody hard for him.

 

[Silvagnis]

serhat temel is of turkish backround....

Sedat Serhat Temel.

 

[matt decat]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87199/default.aspx

SERHAT Temel might not have the running ability of Tom Scully but if this year's NAB AFL Draft pool was judged purely on kicking and marking, he would have a case to be the first player chosen.

The Calder Cannons forward is a throwback to the old-fashioned footballer, when nous and know-how could be amply substituted for speed, agility and a V8-sized engine.

When assessing potential draftees, AFL clubs search for the right balance of speed, fitness and undoubted football skill.

Temel, it seems, has enough of the latter. It's now a matter of whether weakness in the first two categories proves a stumbling block in his quest to go to the next level.

He wasn't invited to the AFL's draft camp in Canberra but instead went to the Victorian state screening session.

"He probably wouldn't be jumping out of his skin with any of his results or anything like that and people will argue that perhaps that [his athleticism] is what might go against him," Cannons football manager Len Villani said.

"I think he was a bit disappointed about [them] and thought he could have done a bit better."

Temel's beep test result of just over 10 would be at the lower end of the players vying for a spot on an AFL list come November 26.

But Villani says after two years at TAC Cup level, Temel started to see reward for his efforts towards the end of the season.

"There's that argument that he might struggle a bit with his leg speed but you don't see him getting beaten on the lead too often," he said.

"We've been drumming into him the last couple of years that those are the things that he needs to work on, his work rate and that type of stuff, his defensive game.

"He's starting to turn the corner a little bit I think in that regard, and just his last four or five weeks of the season were out of this world."

The 18-year-old would have been on the periphery of clubs' sights after a solid TAC Cup season with the Cannons.

But by the end of the finals, he had flown up the charts - and with a bullet.

At 195cm, Temel can play at either end of the ground. He first made the Vic Metro squad as a backman before missing selection for the national championships.

However, he switched back to his more familiar forward role mid-season and it was in the finals that things clicked.

All the Cannons had to do was kick it near their burly forward and he'd do the rest.

Despite playing in defence for part of the season, Temel finished with 54 goals with a staggering 26 of those coming from his last five matches.

His finals tally included hauls of eight, seven, two and a superb five goals in Calder's grand final win, when he was among the best afield.

"He probably took on the top half a dozen defenders in the country (in that time) if you like and he pulled their pants down," Villani said.

"He was very impressive and he beat them hands down. He was just unstoppable.

"He's just so smart and I don't think I've seen a better pair of hands, to be honest, since I've been down here the last four or five years.

"I remember Darcy Daniher was one who really stood out with his hands - they were just sensational - but I think he (Temel) is just a level up on that again."

Temel was named the Cannons' best finals player and also finished third in the club's best and fairest count.

Fellow Cannons Jake Melksham, Daniel Talia and Jake Carlisle are likely to be picked up in the top 20 on draft night and though a couple of clubs have recently expressed interest in Temel, he won't be selected as high as his teammates.

Villani just hopes his natural forward gets his chance.

"I think they're sort of at the stage where they're starting to move back towards just picking good footballers," he said.

"It'd be a brave club not to sort of consider him late third [round], fourth round or at least as a rookie prospect.

"I think he's got a lot to offer, particularly in this draft where there's probably a pretty weak pool for those key position, 195cm-type blokes."