Sheedy

[astro_toby]

Dean Bailey has been appointed coach of Melbourne - which means ol sheed's wont be getting a coaching gig next season

This opens up the door for him to come to richmond now to fulfill a football operations position

first things first - do we want him? Personally - i'm a yes

2nd of all - will he? personally - if his next footballing job is not at richmond helping th club he keeps saying he wants to help - then he can go jump

i would welcome him to the club though the second he is ready to get back involved in footy

thoughts?

 

[itsintheblood]

I want him as president.

 

[astro_toby]

I want him as president.

i think that would be a bit of an insult to our current president who has done a fine job.

but if sheed's were to come back in a footy admin role, serve that position for a few years (and at the same time, decide himself if he has the passion for this club still after 27 years away, lets not forget ) - and he be groomed to fulfill the position once march's work is done.

i think march has done a good job - our finance's are back on track, we are starting to regain the respect of the football world - he doesn't deserve to get shafted just because sheed's has decided to come home (IF sheeds decides to come "Home")

 

[itsintheblood]

i think that would be a bit of an insult to our current president who has done a fine job.

but if sheed's were to come back in a footy admin role, serve that position for a few years (and at the same time, decide himself if he has the passion for this club still after 27 years away, lets not forget ) - and he be groomed to fulfill the position once march's work is done.

i think march has done a good job - our finance's are back on track, we are starting to regain the respect of the football world - he doesn't deserve to get shafted just because sheed's has decided to come home (IF sheeds decides to come "Home")

I don't really think sheedy could actually come back to richmond in any role to be honest without those around him feeling quite insecure about them losing their jobs.

 

[Bojangles17]

i wouldnt mind seeing him back in some capacity, already its invigorated TW knowing there's a torch up his clacker and ticking...expect to see what Plough is really made of form now on...

 

[True Thylacine]

I thought he had 2 offers, one at Freo and another with the AFL in the event that he doesnt coach anywhere? To be honest I'd like to see Rex around the club before Sheeds. Maybe others are comfortable but after the way he has handled himself with us through his "I wanna go back to Punt Rd" bullshit stints he needs to prove to me he is still a Richmond person.

 

[footyfan_25]

Get him to the club in any capacity (as long as he doesn't cost too much)

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

He wont be at Tigerland unless he finally admits his coaching days are over.

 

[astro_toby]

I don't really think sheedy could actually come back to richmond in any role to be honest without those around him feeling quite insecure about them losing their jobs.

is those around him are so insecure of what they can offer to the RFC - that if sheeds came in, they reckon they might get the flick - then they probably aren't the right people foir the job IMO
they will either be big boys and unite - or they can piss off out the door

 

[IDGAF]

To be honest I'd like to see Rex around the club before Sheeds. Maybe others are comfortable but after the way he has handled himself with us through his "I wanna go back to Punt Rd" bullshit stints he needs to prove to me he is still a Richmond person.

i`m not taking the pi.ss because i totally respect your work Roo Stew ... but i am very interested to hear why you think Rex would be a better option ?

For mine that bloke has more flaws than the Rialto .

People are fans of getting him back to Punt rd. but i just don`t see it .... other than the nostalgia factor . What acumen does he bring to the table in as far as successfully running a footy club ? ... it baffles me

In as far as Sheedy coming back to Punt rd... after much consideration , it can`t happen whilst Wallace is there , just undermines his whole position .

Sheedy looking over a youngish inexperienced coach ? ...yes

Looking over Wallaces shoulder ? ... would not work in a pink fit

 

[parrot]

Dean Bailey has been appointed coach of Melbourne - which means ol sheed's wont be getting a coaching gig next season

This opens up the door for him to come to richmond now to fulfill a football operations position

first things first - do we want him? Personally - i'm a yes

2nd of all - will he? personally - if his next footballing job is not at richmond helping th club he keeps saying he wants to help - then he can go jump

i would welcome him to the club though the second he is ready to get back involved in footy

thoughts?

Sheedy's spiritual home is and will always be Richmond. This is an ideal opportunity to get him. The Tiges administration need to make the tough decision now.

 

[tigirlpower]

Sheedy's spiritual home is and will always be Richmond. .

You're wrong, it's Essendon.

He would de-stabilise the place if he came back in any capacity in 2007-8.

 

[astro_toby]

i`m not taking the pi.ss because i totally respect your work Roo Stew ... but i am very interested to hear why you think Rex would be a better option ?

For mine that bloke has more flaws than the Rialto .

People are fans of getting him back to Punt rd. but i just don`t see it .... other than the nostalgia factor . What acumen does he bring to the table in as far as successfully running a footy club ? ... it baffles me

In as far as Sheedy coming back to Punt rd... after much consideration , it can`t happen whilst Wallace is there , just undermines his whole position .

Sheedy looking over a youngish inexperienced coach ? ...yes

Looking over Wallaces shoulder ? ... would not work in a pink fit

completely agree with the rex hunt vs sheedy thing - rex is nothing more than a "billy brownless" type character in my book - sheeds' is the most influential individual in football of the past 20 years.

why would sheed's be looking over wallace's shoulder?

there are plenty of positions a guy like sheeds could fill

how about, for instants - he be an ambassador of the RFC - specializing in indigenous area's and overseas and abroad (i.e ireland, Africa etc. ) - in this position we will be a) sure to get RFC in the papers for many good reasons & B) he can work as a recruiting officer at the same time (this all ensure that he would be away from the club for perhaps 3 months a year - which should "ease" any fears of job insecurity brewing )

he also could act as a players adviser - again - especially in regards to our many indigenous players - and help in the development of our "Under 21's" list - not just as players, but as people.

Our biggest flaw in the past 20 years has been a lack of quality people and leaders in our playing group - in that same time , no other team or coach has had any better results in this area than essendon and kevin sheedy.

coaching would not be sheedys business

thoughts?

 

[big lids]

although i would love to see sheeds at the tiges.....his coaching days are over as i believe the new faster more athletic style of football that is being played nowadays, is alot different to the style of play in the 90's and early 2000 where it was more strategy and tactics. I think that we could all agree that these day the boys just run and run and run....

 

[IDGAF]

completely agree with the rex hunt vs sheedy thing - rex is nothing more than a "billy brownless" type character in my book - sheeds' is the most influential individual in football of the past 20 years.

why would sheed's be looking over wallace's shoulder?

there are plenty of positions a guy like sheeds could fill

how about, for instants - he be an ambassador of the RFC - specializing in indigenous area's and overseas and abroad (i.e ireland, Africa etc. ) - in this position we will be a) sure to get RFC in the papers for many good reasons & B) he can work as a recruiting officer at the same time (this all ensure that he would be away from the club for perhaps 3 months a year - which should "ease" any fears of job insecurity brewing )

he also could act as a players adviser - again - especially in regards to our many indigenous players - and help in the development of our "Under 21's" list - not just as players, but as people.

Our biggest flaw in the past 20 years has been a lack of quality people and leaders in our playing group - in that same time , no other team or coach has had any better results in this area than essendon and kevin sheedy.

coaching would not be sheedys business

thoughts?

at the end of the day , the whole notion of KS ending up back at punt rd. in some capacity is one i agree with . I believe he is one of the very few people left on this planet who is capable of instilling the true ruthlessness back into out club . Giving us our identity and respect back .

But we have to tread very carefully , the fact is Terry Wallace should be the number one consideration in this and we would have to be walking on egg shells for mine to see that he is respected and his position and is in no way undermined . If that were to happen then it would be disasterous for our club . It would once again achieve what we have historically been doing for the last 25 years and that is to undo the good work of the preceding years and stray wildly off the game plan .

If they sat down with TW and said ... "Terry , we want to bring KS into the club and we are looking at offering him these positions ..." and Terry was 100
% comfortable with that then go for it .... but at his end of the business , in a lot of ways , its all about egos ... and i don`t see Terry Wallace sitting there taking advice from Kevin Sheedy on player X ... or Game plan Y ... i just don`t see it ...

Kevin Sheedys role would have to very limited in that area for mine .

It is going to be compelling viewing in the ensuing weeks for mine either way

 

[IDGAF]

although i would love to see sheeds at the tiges.....his coaching days are over as i believe the new faster more athletic style of football that is being played nowadays, is alot different to the style of play in the 90's and early 2000 where it was more strategy and tactics. I think that we could all agree that these day the boys just run and run and run....

totally agree ... that is how we beat Essendon last week ... one of the few times in recent years you could actually look at a game and say ..."We were fitter and faster than the oppositon"

...but

Kevin Sheedy has always been the modern day master at re-inventing himself

 

[Richo Rules]

is those around him are so insecure of what they can offer to the RFC - that if sheeds came in, they reckon they might get the flick - then they probably aren't the right people foir the job IMO
they will either be big boys and unite - or they can piss off out the door

this is what i have been saying
if miller and wallace are apparently so worried that sheedy might unseat them or they just dont want him at the club for whatever reason
they are not the right people for our club
why would they be worrying about themselves
they should do whats right for the club
they should be delighted to get someone who loves the club and has the knowledge to help

 

[astro_toby]

It would once again achieve what we have historically been doing for the last 25 years and that is to undo the good work of the preceding years and stray wildly off the game plan .

If they sat down with TW and said ... "Terry , we want to bring KS into the club and we are looking at offering him these positions ..." and Terry was 100
% comfortable with that then go for it

Kevin Sheedys role would have to very limited in that area for mine .

It is going to be compelling viewing in the ensuing weeks for mine either way

Agree - if they can all put ego's aside - and sit down and sort out how best this relationship can be worked - i see the benefits for RFC as being the most significant stepping stone to us again being a "major force" in the AFL.

 

[IDGAF]

Agree - if they can all put ego's aside - and sit down and sort out how best this relationship can be worked - i see the benefits for RFC as being the most significant stepping stone to us again being a "major force" in the AFL.

i agree

but the mistakes of "Yabbie Jeans" should not be forgotten and every aspect should be given due consideration.

The number one thing we have to realise is that the grass on the other side of the fence is not always greener .... we have to let this field that we have developed reach it`s fruition

Tweek with it , fertilise it yes .... dig part of it up now and re-develop ... no friggin way

 

[astro_toby]

i agree

but the mistakes of "Yabbie Jeans" should not be forgotten and every aspect should be given due consideration.

The number one thing we have to realise is that the grass on the other side of the fence is not always greener .... we have to let this field that we have developed reach it`s fruition

Tweek with it , fertilise it yes .... dig part of it up now and re-develop ... no friggin way

yep - im on that boat

i honestly believe thought that the current "grass" we have would actually work very well with Sheedy's "fertilizer" - so thats why im very excited about the prospect of he getting involved.

our current interest / trend of putting faith in indigenous players - looking abroad to set up and ireland player for player exchagng - and our "father / son training programs " are all very sheedy-esque - progressive and "outside the box". he watching over these parts of our club is extremely exciting

 

[deliberate!!]

at the end of the day , the whole notion of KS ending up back at punt rd. in some capacity is one i agree with . I believe he is one of the very few people left on this planet who is capable of instilling the true ruthlessness back into out club . Giving us our identity and respect back .

But we have to tread very carefully , the fact is Terry Wallace should be the number one consideration in this and we would have to be walking on egg shells for mine to see that he is respected and his position and is in no way undermined . If that were to happen then it would be disasterous for our club . It would once again achieve what we have historically been doing for the last 25 years and that is to undo the good work of the preceding years and stray wildly off the game plan .

If they sat down with TW and said ... "Terry , we want to bring KS into the club and we are looking at offering him these positions ..." and Terry was 100
% comfortable with that then go for it .... but at his end of the business , in a lot of ways , its all about egos ... and i don`t see Terry Wallace sitting there taking advice from Kevin Sheedy on player X ... or Game plan Y ... i just don`t see it ...

Kevin Sheedys role would have to very limited in that area for mine .

It is going to be compelling viewing in the ensuing weeks for mine either way

We don't need Sheedy lookin over Zig & Zag's shoulder and sitting there smiling cause he thinks he's a genius.
Thinking outside the box and applying it when it's not needed, is something done by mental patients.
It isn't a badge of honor when not called for.
I'd be happy to let Zig & Zag run their course. (Though I suspect they may not)
Either way, let Sheeds flip sausages in the new bbq area of our new Social Club.

There you go.....there's my respect for that past Essendon Hall of Famer.
(With all due respect to the current people on bbq duty...apologies to them)

 

[Gman]

Enough of this nonsense talk!

Use By Date Expired 2007
Best Before Date 2002

10+ years of begging = 0

Now run along Sheeds and enjoy your retirement

 

[TFLUA-Tiger]

I posted this in another thread, thought i'd post it here too.

Keep Wallace, he's in the third year of a five year contract and has stressed all along that our window of opportunity is not for a couple of years. I see no reason not to stick with him, despite a dissapointing year, but let's face it, name a long-term coach who hasn't had one.

Would love to have Sheedy at the club in a marketing/administration type role but see no reason to have him coach Richmond.

Roll on the Wallace train!

 

[NQTIGER]

Sheedy's spiritual home is and will always be Richmond. This is an ideal opportunity to get him. The Tiges administration need to make the tough decision now.

What drugs are u on....he is black and red

 

[Tigerrific]

We don't need Sheedy lookin over Zig & Zag's shoulder and sitting there smiling cause he thinks he's a genius.
Thinking outside the box and applying it when it's not needed, is something done by mental patients.
It isn't a badge of honor when not called for.
I'd be happy to let Zig & Zag run their course. (Though I suspect they may not)
Either way, let Sheeds flip sausages in the new bbq area of our new Social Club.

There you go.....there's my respect for that past Essendon Hall of Famer.
(With all due respect to the current people on bbq duty...apologies to them)

It's vary rarely that I agree with you deliberate but I'm with you on this one. Sheedy doesn't get along with either Wallace or Miller. Why bring in someone who will cause dissension in the club when everyone is working harmoniously together. Sheedy's had his chances to come back to Richmond and wouldn't when we needed him most.

He is yesterday's man and we don't need him now!