Sliding "tackles"...

[Eagle87]

The general view seems to be that sliding into a genuine contest as Broughton did (and as Thomas did) to win the ball is ok. Just winning the footy. Under the current laws of the game, I agree entirely.

That said, the question will be asked within the AFL as to whether we should follow the example of other codes in which sliding into a contest occurs, the obvious one being soccer. In that code, studs up sliding is absolutely a no-no because it runs the risk of serious injury to the player on the receiving end.

What Broughton did was entirely acceptable under the laws of the game.

The question is whether it should be given the injury risk "studs up" carries and also whether it will be come 2013?

No one wants to outlaw the contest for the ball but someone arriving at pace, studs up, is a serious threat to the health of those on the other side of the contest.

I suspect next year those sliding in studs up will be gone. Of course sliding, studs down, is difficult

 

[Jentleman Geff]

Goodes got suspended for sliding in studs down.

 

[lmach]

inb4 massive Priddis debate...

 

[Belnakor]

should absolutely be illegal, they just need to put it into the laws of the game.

The thomas one, if that happened in Soccer it would have been Red card, suspension etc.

 

[Brown Bottle]

Difference being I guess that it's not a tackle. We don't play soccer. A player going to ground to gather the ball is not the same as a soccer player sliding in to tackle.

 

[Jentleman Geff]

I don't recall sliding in being all too common that long ago - in fact, as a junior, coaches repeatedly urged players to keep their feet at all times and discouraged sliding. Obvious as it leaves you a man down around the contest, but it had nothing to do with infringements.

Now with the interpretation of high tackle rule, players are trying to get lower than their opponent. So, is it time to stop being so officious with high tackles?

 

[Seadog]

Goodes got suspended for sliding in studs down.

Not sure if serious.
Sliding in knee first makes it a moot point.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

The interesting thing is neither Broughton or Thomas were actually sliding in to a tackle - they got to the ball first and hence were sliding in to the ball.

The Goodes and Taylor one were clear - the opposition got there first and they were then sliding into a tackle situation - albeit they didn't try and tackle.

The incident on the DVD from last year is a great one, I think it's Brady Rawlings sliding from miles away to a guy stationary over the ball, the same as the Jaymie Graham incident - that's what needs to be rubbed out.

It's a signficantly different scenario IMO to sliding in to a ball where you are there first - as such it's the opposition's requirement to adjust to you.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

For over 100 years players at all levels have been sliding in to get the ball first.
For over 100 years players at all levels have been playing for free kicks.

Why is it that everything needs to be changed, why is sliding all of a sudden dangerous? What Broughton did is not even a free kick let alone reportable.

You cannot have a genuine contact sport without injuries and accidents occurring.

It seems though that we want eliminate basically all contact to avoid a what if circumstance?

Where are we going with all of this? It is getting ridiculous what blokes are being reported for. Players are being reported for split second decisions that they have been doing since the inception of Aussie rules.
98% of the outcomes are because of accidental contact, there is very little deliberate violence in our game now.
Why are we penalising accidents? It has become so silly.

Do you guys deep down actually want our game to become non contact? Because it sure seems as though you do and the worst part the AFL seem to want this.

 

[Fossie 32]

Can't understand how people can defend actions like Thomas'. Haven't seen Broughton's yet.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Can't understand how people can defend action's like Thomas'. Haven't seen Broughton's yet.

It is not defending Thomas, but lets face it only because of outcome is he in discussion.
It is still an accident that major injury. Terrible it happened but like I said how can we run a professional sport if we live in a what if world?

What Thomas did has been done for 100 years, to my knowledge the first major injury that I know of.

Talk about creating an issue out of a non issue.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Broughton slid with the ball, won the ball, then Swallow got hit (contact was secondary)

Then Broughton won a free for head-high contact because he was so low on the ground already

It got thrown out - and rightly so, too

 

[THRILLHO]

Can't understand how people can defend action's like Thomas'. Haven't seen Broughton's yet.

It is purely because of the outcome that there was mass hysteria from Swans supporters.

Thomas slides in, collects ball, makes accidental contact with Rohan = TOMAS MUST BE HANGED.

Thomas slides in, collects ball, makes accidental contact with Luke Russell = no comment.

 

[Maddo11]

It is purely because of the outcome that there was mass hysteria from Swans supporters.

Thomas slides in, collects ball, makes accidental contact with Rohan = TOMAS MUST BE HANGED.

Thomas slides in, collects ball, makes accidental contact with Luke Russell = no comment.

Obvious troll is obvious

0/10, would not troll again.

 

[THE BRICKMAN]

Did anyone else notice a milne one on the weekend? I only saw it once live but thought it would've definitely been looked at

 

[brucespringsteen]

Broughton slid with the ball, won the ball, then Swallow got hit (contact was secondary)

Then Broughton won a free for head-high contact because he was so low on the ground already

It got thrown out - and rightly so, too

He Swallow couldn't attack the ball because of the slide...

He was running along side the slide...if he had dived in it would have been studs to the arm or face....

Broughton hit swallow on the side of the ankle...how do you figure the slide wasn't to blame? If Broughton had gone in face first, swallow could have wrapped him up or affected the play...



you can't slide, its the end result, not whether he won the ball that matters.

 

[legend166]

I just still don't understand why Goodes' action, which really had the least potential for serious damage, has so far been the only action causing suspension.

 

[brucespringsteen]

I just still don't understand why Goodes' action, which really had the least potential for serious damage, has so far been the only action causing suspension.

You have to be kidding me....

While I agree its odd LT or Broughton were not sanctioned, Goodes had huge potential to hurt...

common...be objective.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I just still don't understand why Goodes' action, which really had the least potential for serious damage, has so far been the only action causing suspension.

Because to be reportable and incident has to have both a degree of negligence and also a degree of impact.

I.e a pure accident or something of minimal force are therefore not reportable.

Both broughton and thomas were found to be in the play and a footballing accident.

Goodes was clearly negligent sliding in late with the knees, and i'll be staggered how Walker's wasn't reckless.

 

[speedpeck23]

IMO the present rules are adequate to cover the problem of the slide tackle...

* If an opposition player is tripped up in the process its a free kick and a reportable offence.

* if contact is made with the head its reportable.

* Any other contact which results in injury can be deemed unnecessary rough play and therefore reportable.

 

[Fossie 32]

IMO the present rules are adequate to cover the problem of the slide tackle...

* If an opposition player is tripped up in the process its a free kick and a reportable offence.

* if contact is made with the head its reportable.

* Any other contact which results in injury can be deemed unnecessary rough play and therefore reportable.

Agree - how did Thomas get off then??? Not that I want to hang him but at least he could have got a reprimand or suspended sentence.

 

[.Shotties.]

It is purely because of the outcome that there was mass hysteria from Swans supporters.

Thomas slides in, collects ball, makes accidental contact with Rohan = TOMAS MUST BE HANGED.

Speaking of hysteria...


That aside, I have no issue with Thomas getting off, nor Broughton, I'm still just amazed Goodes' wasn't thrown out when he

a) had won the ball seconds before the contest and had hit it to advantage
b) had gone to ground at the exact same time as Surjan, which the AFL counsel agreed with at the tribunal (which makes the continual argument on here that he was late or aiming at Surjan baffling)
c) was the same distance from the ball as Surjan when they both started sliding (again, accepted at tribunal)
d) Slid in with his knees while Surjan slid in with his studs aiming towards Goodes.

As I've posted more than a few times there was a fraction of a second and the bounce of a ball between what happened and the ball bouncing towards Goodes and him getting studded by Surjan. Though the latter happened anyway.

 

[SonOfScray]

kicking in danger?

 

[Pusswah]

Again the Goodes thing. He regularly slides in with the knees, it's pretty obvious he's hoping to get them into the opponent. He got suspended because he's an idiot.

 

[.Shotties.]

Before this year, when has Goodes slid into a contest?