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In todays paper M Rucci talks about the poignancy in the handing over of a seat on the SA Football Commission from Halbert to Carey

He mentions that if Carey had played in the 82 Grand Final instead of being suspended that Halbert would have survived as Glenelg coach

Nice story but...

Carey played in 82 GF (injured)

Rucci is thinking of the 84 finals series where Carey was suspended for 2 games for attempting! to strike, missed the Norwood v Glenelg Prelim and thus Graham Campbell was sacked

Sloppy journalism for a man so hell bent on pointing out the errors of others.

Thus I suggest we start our own counter

Days since a Rucci factual error in the Advertiser... currently 0
 

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I wasn't that impressed with Geoff Roach comparing Port's usage of young players in the NAB cup to the Swans' coach's current issues either ;)
 
There was an article in the tiser on Damon White after the Collingwood game that prompted me to comment on the Port Board that the article demonstrated everything wrong with today's syndicated, website driven journalism. It was based on Josh Francou's call of the game for 5AA (where he made the 'swagger' comment) and Brett Ebert's presser after Port returned. Zac Milbank wouldn't have been within 700km of the game. The trouble was, the Vic reports focused mostly on Collingwood (as to be expected) - for example, The Age commentary listed half a dozen Collingwood players that were out and then blithely stated Port were only missing Michael Wilson. Well, if you don't count Brogan, Surjan and Chaplin, well yes I guess that's right. So the tiser cobbled together an SA perspective from second hand accounts. Shoddy.

The other issue is with journos like Rooch, or Sheahan or Wilson is this 'cult of personality' that has developed around chief football writers. It seems that now the game is so big, they have to become stars in their own right. It's all about opinion pieces, and 'look at me' journalism, rather than letting the real stars of the game tell and sell the story. And I don't mean 5 day sensationalist pieces around Goodwin's gambling or Pickett's driving - that's red top rag stuff, and I for one am frankly not interested. Caro can do some good investigative stuff, but it's selective and inconsistent.

I don't want to wallow in the glow of the old days, but journalists like Gordon Schwartz, Merv Agars, Mike Coward, even Geoff Kingston (and yes I'd even include the younger Ashley Porter and Alan Shiell even if they were also at the vanguard of the sensationalist journalism approach of The News) etc, could investigate an issue and tell a story, or describe a football match, in ways that captured your attention and in some cases even enthralled. Yes they could produce tripe as well, but at least that was the exception.

I don't know if it's because there are only two football teams to report on, or that they keep a tight rein on the players and issues - or simply wield too much influence on what gets printed - but you just don't get the feeling that journalism is about the game so much these days and sometimes lifting the veil to glimpse the mystery behind it. There are journalists at least in the melbourne press who are still a good read, like Rielly, Baum, Quayle (who really does write some good old-fashioned insightful football pieces) that aren't the upper echelon of 'star' writers, but are simply good, solid journalists.

These things bother me much more than Rucci's factual inaccuracies.
 
Rucci has been making basic factual mistakes for as long as I can remember

The sad thing is he is capable of good stories - eg the one on Doug Thomas and the problems at West, but he's more worried about baiting people than reporting.
 
jackster83 said:
Speaking of bad journalism, it seems that not even the crows web site knows what they're talking about.

http://www.afc.com.au/tabid/4417/Default.aspx?newsid=55902

Since when has Reilly been a raking left footer?
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If you read the disclaimer that appears on each of the articles that are written by Katrina Gill that appear on the site. It is that the opinion is not that of the afc. Katrina Gill, my understanding, is employed to write articles for afl.com.au. She writes on both port and adelaide.
 
Seems slammer power must be some relation to Rucci and has taken offence to me calling him a buffoon, thanks for the PM though slammer power and expressing your concern at me stating Rucci is a buffoon.

119 points for you and all your inbred power mates:thumbsu:
 
Ford Fairlane said:
There was an article in the tiser on Damon White after the Collingwood game that prompted me to comment on the Port Board that the article demonstrated everything wrong with today's syndicated, website driven journalism. It was based on Josh Francou's call of the game for 5AA (where he made the 'swagger' comment) and Brett Ebert's presser after Port returned. Zac Milbank wouldn't have been within 700km of the game. The trouble was, the Vic reports focused mostly on Collingwood (as to be expected) - for example, The Age commentary listed half a dozen Collingwood players that were out and then blithely stated Port were only missing Michael Wilson. Well, if you don't count Brogan, Surjan and Chaplin, well yes I guess that's right. So the tiser cobbled together an SA perspective from second hand accounts. Shoddy.

The other issue is with journos like Rooch, or Sheahan or Wilson is this 'cult of personality' that has developed around chief football writers. It seems that now the game is so big, they have to become stars in their own right. It's all about opinion pieces, and 'look at me' journalism, rather than letting the real stars of the game tell and sell the story. And I don't mean 5 day sensationalist pieces around Goodwin's gambling or Pickett's driving - that's red top rag stuff, and I for one am frankly not interested. Caro can do some good investigative stuff, but it's selective and inconsistent.

I don't want to wallow in the glow of the old days, but journalists like Gordon Schwartz, Merv Agars, Mike Coward, even Geoff Kingston (and yes I'd even include the younger Ashley Porter and Alan Shiell even if they were also at the vanguard of the sensationalist journalism approach of The News) etc, could investigate an issue and tell a story, or describe a football match, in ways that captured your attention and in some cases even enthralled. Yes they could produce tripe as well, but at least that was the exception.

I don't know if it's because there are only two football teams to report on, or that they keep a tight rein on the players and issues - or simply wield too much influence on what gets printed - but you just don't get the feeling that journalism is about the game so much these days and sometimes lifting the veil to glimpse the mystery behind it. There are journalists at least in the melbourne press who are still a good read, like Rielly, Baum, Quayle (who really does write some good old-fashioned insightful football pieces) that aren't the upper echelon of 'star' writers, but are simply good, solid journalists.

These things bother me much more than Rucci's factual inaccuracies.
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Good post Ford.:thumbsu:

Ive had a gut full of these attention seekers pretending to be journalists too.

I cant remember the last time I read an article and learned something. Most times I end up wishing I didnt bother.
 

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Ford Fairlane said:
There was an article in the tiser on Damon White after the Collingwood game that prompted me to comment on the Port Board that the article demonstrated everything wrong with today's syndicated, website driven journalism. It was based on Josh Francou's call of the game for 5AA (where he made the 'swagger' comment) and Brett Ebert's presser after Port returned. Zac Milbank wouldn't have been within 700km of the game. The trouble was, the Vic reports focused mostly on Collingwood (as to be expected) - for example, The Age commentary listed half a dozen Collingwood players that were out and then blithely stated Port were only missing Michael Wilson. Well, if you don't count Brogan, Surjan and Chaplin, well yes I guess that's right. So the tiser cobbled together an SA perspective from second hand accounts. Shoddy.

The other issue is with journos like Rooch, or Sheahan or Wilson is this 'cult of personality' that has developed around chief football writers. It seems that now the game is so big, they have to become stars in their own right. It's all about opinion pieces, and 'look at me' journalism, rather than letting the real stars of the game tell and sell the story. And I don't mean 5 day sensationalist pieces around Goodwin's gambling or Pickett's driving - that's red top rag stuff, and I for one am frankly not interested. Caro can do some good investigative stuff, but it's selective and inconsistent.

I don't want to wallow in the glow of the old days, but journalists like Gordon Schwartz, Merv Agars, Mike Coward, even Geoff Kingston (and yes I'd even include the younger Ashley Porter and Alan Shiell even if they were also at the vanguard of the sensationalist journalism approach of The News) etc, could investigate an issue and tell a story, or describe a football match, in ways that captured your attention and in some cases even enthralled. Yes they could produce tripe as well, but at least that was the exception.

I don't know if it's because there are only two football teams to report on, or that they keep a tight rein on the players and issues - or simply wield too much influence on what gets printed - but you just don't get the feeling that journalism is about the game so much these days and sometimes lifting the veil to glimpse the mystery behind it. There are journalists at least in the melbourne press who are still a good read, like Rielly, Baum, Quayle (who really does write some good old-fashioned insightful football pieces) that aren't the upper echelon of 'star' writers, but are simply good, solid journalists.

These things bother me much more than Rucci's factual inaccuracies.
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I think you can add Cornes in those with a super ego as well Ford.

By the way, there is one of the others that you mentioned that I didn't have time for, and I wont reveal who, but they told a pack of poo tickets in an article after a Westies South game at Adelaide Oval one day. Told a story that he was in the dressing rooms after the game and wasn't. I was and know the true story.
 
Markthirtytwo said:
I think you can add Cornes in those with a super ego as well Ford.
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I would if only I could bring myself to consider him in any way a journalist ... nope, tried, didn't work. He's not even a good footy raconteur like the Sams Newman or Kekovich. It's a pity, because when he actually concentrates on football and dispenses with trying to be 5AA's answer to Oscar Wilde, he makes some worthwhile observations.

By the way, there is one of the others that you mentioned that I didn't have time for, and I wont reveal who, but they told a pack of poo tickets in an article after a Westies South game at Adelaide Oval one day. Told a story that he was in the dressing rooms after the game and wasn't. I was and know the true story.
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I'd be surprised it if was one of the first three mentioned, less so the second set of three.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
It's a pity, because when he actually concentrates on football and dispenses with trying to be 5AA's answer to Oscar Wilde, he makes some worthwhile observations.
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As an unfunny media personality with average musical ability, he's more 5AA's answer to Wilbur Wilde.
 

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