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Larry the Liquidator said:
So I would argue if a ball is coming in at a controlled speed as opposed to bullet speed, the effect of eliminating the second serve will actually disadvantage the server moreso than evening it up.
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I think that's demonstrably incorrect. In most matches, both players win more than 50% of points played on their second serve. Faster surfaces would only help that.
 
Caesar said:
I think that's demonstrably incorrect. In most matches, both players win more than 50% of points played on their second serve. Faster surfaces would only help that.
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But in the context of one serve only, all the dynamics change. On a second serve at 30-15, a server may go for a bit more on the second serve because he knows if he double faults, he's got the first serve at 30-30. If players had one serve only, each and every point, they would serve more conservative, not so much at 40-15 or 40-0, but on the big points. Some may even still risk it then, but on the whole, I'd be surprised if the majority did not take a bit off the serve just to ensure it goes in.
 
I can't see any reason why players would serve even more conservatively than they currently hit their second serve. If they did their PWOS% would go down. At the end of the day, that's what matters - not whether your serve goes in or not.

In fact, I'd actually suggest that players would probably be more aggressive with their only serve than they currently are with their 2nd, precisely because they don't have that first serve to fall back on to boost their PWOS numbers. They would fault away more points, but that wouldn't matter.
 
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Some people actually want Miami to switch to green clay. If its gonna be so slow it may as well. Sounds like it was rificulous this week. Although I'm not necessarily in favour of speeding up the courts overall.
 
I basically consider Miami a clay event, gets worse every year. The humidity doesn't really help. IW is slow too but the dry air helps over there but in Miami it feels like slow motion

I really wouldn't mind slow hard courts if we had our fair share of fast ones.
 
The tour definitely needs to be sped up. Over two thirds of tournaments are played on clay or slow-as-molasses hardcourts. The bigger problem is that genuinely quick surfaces are limited to a bunch of 250 events.

The ridiculously heavy balls they use these days don't help either.
 
i would even go as far to say that the aus open surface is a resemblance of a clay court. slightly faster and the conditions do speed it up but it has been described by many as a slow surface
 
Slippery Pete said:
I'm sure I heard some players in the last 5-8 years describe the US Open as faster than Wimbledon.
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And the US Open is slower than it used to be
 
Federer's record against Nadal would be much, much different under quicker conditions. I tend to wonder if the head to head wouldn't be the other way around actually. Fed has just monstered him whenever they've met on something quicker.
 
amer said:
Federer's record against Nadal would be much, much different under quicker conditions. I tend to wonder if the head to head wouldn't be the other way around actually. Fed has just monstered him whenever they've met on something quicker.
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Nadal did beat him in one of those Wimbledon finals.

Not that Wimbledon is particularly fast these days.
 

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Is that right? I thought I was seeing more clean winners hit this year, but didn't know whether it was just my imagination.

It might give Hewitt half a chance in the Brisbane final too.
 

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