Opinion Stability is the key for Tiger

[THE THIN MAN]

On the one hand, Dustin Martin is one of football's good news stories for 2013. Barely 22, the prodigiously talented young Tiger began the season under a cloud from which there seemed no escape after a pre-season beset by innuendo and genuine trouble, culminating in a subtle form of intervention by Richmond.

There was high anxiety for both player and club as Martin was coming off a 2012 campaign which failed to live up the standards he had set the previous year - his second in the AFL.

Martin's problems were being investigated among a series of sinister off-field tales of wild summer behaviour at a time when the game was bracing itself for an illicit drugs summit. The rumour mill became volcanic, but all along the Tigers protected their man


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[Danair]

I liked the bit where it said he'd want to move to Sydney



Won't happen.

 

[johnno77]

He won plenty last time around because his manager, Ricky Nixon, played the Tigers off against the fledgling Greater Western Sydney and leaked reports Martin had been offered staggering sums by the Giants. (The Giants have since denied they made an offer.)

This imbecile should be the poster child of what it looks like to have money but no idea on living a balanced life.

I honestly don't begrudge players leaving clubs for a lifestyle change, a new challenge, family reasons or to leave a toxic/unsupportive environment. I've done it myself many times in my life (not as an AFL footballer obviously but it remains valid).

Wanting more money isn't a bad thing but it should be a distant second to everything else.

 

[Harmichael]

"You owe us Dustin for all we've done for you" - wouldn't be surprised if the club fed Caro that story. Hope it doesn't backfire.

 

[SA TIGER]

Caro's article is somewhat concerning, partucularly if it drags on into September!

 

[Bojangles17]

What's a bit alarming to me is i wouldn't have thought 150k a year for a younger player who s on a good earn would be a biggie. Different matter when it comes to last 3 or 4 years in the game. Hoping this plays out ok

 

[Tigertron]

Pretty clumsy effort if this came from the club

 

[tugga]

I liked the bit where it said he'd want to move to Sydney



Won't happen.

It won't and shouldn't happen because with Tippett, there should be no room left in the cap.
martin should be paying us to play. He owes Richmond, not the other way around.

 

[TigerTime88]

I would love to know how Fremantle, Carlton and a few others being talked about have so much cap room.

Carlton have: Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Kruezer and then even older players like Simpson, Scotland, Walker.

Freo have: Hille, Fyfe, Sandi, Pav, Mundy ect

Surely we can compete with most clubs for salary cap space?

If Riewoldt or Martin want out then they will have to trade or go to GWS via the PSD which I don't think will happen. If the worst case happens and one of them did do that (i would think Jack) then we would have alot of cash to bring in a free agent.

Hoping they both realise money isn't everything, they are on good wickets and maybe have a chat to Jimmy Bartel, Corey Enright, Joel Corey and Cameron Ling.

 

[Mr Magic]

I would love to know how Fremantle, Carlton and a few others being talked about have so much cap room.

Carlton have: Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Kruezer and then even older players like Simpson, Scotland, Walker.

Freo have: Hille, Fyfe, Sandi, Pav, Mundy ect

Surely we can compete with most clubs for salary cap space?

If Riewoldt or Martin want out then they will have to trade or go to GWS via the PSD which I don't think will happen. If the worst case happens and one of them did do that (i would think Jack) then we would have alot of cash to bring in a free agent.

Hoping they both realise money isn't everything, they are on good wickets and maybe have a chat to Jimmy Bartel, Corey Enright, Joel Corey and Cameron Ling.

great post, hit the nail one the head, either we are over paying some or they are under paying some or a combination of both

Maybe we should be targeting the likes of Henderson or Barlow etc.. if they are being under paid

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I liked the bit where it said he'd want to move to Sydney



Won't happen.

You went for Tippett to early.
It will now cost you Martin.
Which means Dusty will stay.

 

[Mr Magic]

You went for Tippett to early.
It will now cost you Martin.
Which means Dusty will stay.

As much as I do not like it Martin for Cameron would be a fair swap IMO

 

[Morro]

This goes against everything his father believes in, which is loyalty. This is from the horses mouth FWIW.

He owes us which is not something I can say about many of our players if any others, but after the way our club has nurtured him and the individual sacrifices by so many to ensure he stayed on track, he absolutely owes to the club to sign for fair market value, and sign right now!!!

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

This goes against everything his father believes in, which is loyalty. This is from the horses mouth FWIW.

He owes us which is not something I can say about many of our players if any others, but after the way our club has nurtured him and the individual sacrifices by so many to ensure he stayed on track, he absolutely owes to the club to sign for fair market value, and sign right now!!!

I,ll think he,ll stay along with Jack,But if there is a fallout due to salary cap issues then Conca maybe the fall guy.

 

[thefendoff]

Would be pretty annoying to see him go after all the club has done for him, doubt he will leave though.

 

[DontArgue4]

I really dont want dusty to leave, but what would be the chances of prying the #1 pick from GWS for him and maybe a second rounder? ...... we would get a CHF for the next 10 years and draft a mid with our first pick ........ i'm not extremely informed on the way the out of contract thing works though so i could be miles off. Someone inform me!

 

[Riskingheadandshin]

Someone must have got in ear, earlier in the year it was:
"Just love playing with the boys"
"So thankful for the club" etc.

Maybe his money grabbing mate James O'Connor has explained to him the finer points of holding a team for ransom.

 

[3rdManUp]

I don't really care either way. Richmond is bigger than it's players, it's more than the sum of it's parts. Dimma has built success on team effort and not individual brilliance. If they want to go then fine. Now the club is stable off field, I have full faith that Benny, Blair and co will use the extra cap space to fill it quite nicely (especially with free agency). It's quite simple really- be a favourite son in a dynasty or chase dollars and become a merc for hire.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Players come and go but he's so young still he has more improvement which is scary. Really don't want him to go, but if he's holding the club to ransom he can take his neck tatts and go get ****ed.

 

[Riskingheadandshin]

I don't really care either way. Richmond is bigger than it's players, it's more than the sum of it's parts. Dimma has built success on team effort and not individual brilliance. If they want to go then fine. Now the club is stable off field, I have full faith that Benny, Blair and co will use the extra cap space to fill it quite nicely (especially with free agency). It's quite simple really- be a favourite son in a dynasty or chase dollars and become a merc for hire.

Good call Hooch.
Jack is the ONLY exception as quality, proven forwards do not grow on trees. I think we have to secure him no matter what.
Dusty and Conca can leave for the big $$, it's not like they are starved of opportunities.
Our current list isn't a premiership list, but is being shaped to be one, if guys aren't buying in, then trade them for those who will.

 

[Nostradumbass]

So if Dusty goes we can nothing for him? I'm not up to speed on this free agency bollocks!

 

[Danair]

It won't and shouldn't happen because with Tippett, there should be no room left in the cap.
martin should be paying us to play. He owes Richmond, not the other way around.

I dunno we do have quite a few retirements happening over this season and next (Mattner, Shaw, Bolton and possibly LRT, Goodes and O'Keefe).


But seriously it won't be us, we don't have the currency to get a trade done.......... It's GWS I'd be worried about, they have the money and picks to get a deal done, also the threat of pick 1 in the PSD.

 

[Mr Magic]

I really dont want dusty to leave, but what would be the chances of prying the #1 pick from GWS for him and maybe a second rounder? ...... we would get a CHF for the next 10 years and draft a mid with our first pick ........ i'm not extremely informed on the way the out of contract thing works though so i could be miles off. Someone inform me!

Dusty worth more than that IMO. IMO Dusty is probably potentially the most irreplaceabe

 

[scarecrow2k1]

Dusty worth more than that IMO. IMO Dusty is probably potentially the most irreplaceabe

I think now that Cotch is stiched up for two years and Lids for 5- Dusty is indeed the most irreplaceable. His recent form is well publicized, and he is just so explosive and has so much upside that we can't let him go.

 

[Harmichael]

I'd be disappointed if he left - but not angry - nobody owes anybody anything in professional sport. Everything a club does is with a view to it's own success - even the stuff that looks like social work. If you're going to blame anyone - blame the parasitic and, for the most part, unneccesary player-managers.

Personally though, I think a bloke who IMO will be one of the greatest players of all time is worth every cent of what he's asking, whatever it is.