Substitution

[Notorious_29]

Yeah first time I've seen him play and was definetly having a good crack, Harvey has rocks in his head.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

His last game was this week. It's that simple.

It should have been last week, that's even simpler.

Along with Broughton, late in the third, yes. Sibo played key position, he's not exactly noted for pushing through, both Suban and Broughton are runners.

So keeping on runners who are spent and subbing off a key position player who really doesn't have to push a lot makes sense how?

 

[DockerLand1]

Ok, maybe not the only player, but far and away the worst player out there. So much so that he was effectively an extra man for the Bulldogs. There is no point leaving a man who can run all day out there if he is also turning the ball over all day. I'd take a tired Sibosado over that in a heartbeat.

I was thrilled that Sibo got a run and from what I heard looked good. Very disappointed that he was subbed off but I was not there to see. I only hope that he gets another chance for the Dockers! Come on Freo use that LATE draft pick to keep him at the club. Please! Casey will be worth it!

 

[Nickos66]

No doubt due to his lack of AFL conditioning he cramped up into submission.

I wonder if today's game will have any bearing on whether we keep him or not? Or whether that just becomes his 1 claim to glory ala Lukey Pratt.

 

[PapaJ]

Along with Broughton, late in the third, yes. Sibo played key position, he's not exactly noted for pushing through, both Suban and Broughton are runners.

Spot on, lots of players look tired (disapointing in itself), but Sibbo was gorn before all of them and probably covered half the ground of some of them too.

I was thrilled that Sibo got a run and from what I heard looked good. Very disappointed that he was subbed off but I was not there to see. I only hope that he gets another chance for the Dockers! Come on Freo use that LATE draft pick to keep him at the club. Please! Casey will be worth it!

It's going to be a tight call DL. He really does look the goods if you just take a snapshot when it's all running for him. His ball skills are without doubt AFL level and he's got the right sort of body, but as alluded too above, he has some workrate/fitness issues that if he has not sorted out by now I'm not sure are ever going to come good.

 

[Scham]

The major point is thought that players shouldn't only be judged on their WAFL performances. We see it time and time again where players don't set the world on fire with their WAFL games but as soon as they get an AFL game they play twice as good. The step up from WAFL to AFL is huge and that means that players are surrounded by team mates with far betters skills, running patterns, fitness and structures.

My point is should Sibo have gotten a debut game earlier? You always need to give your prospects a taste of the bigtime so they know how hard they have to work. Even Pitt to a degree doubles his possession count from WAFL to AFL. Same goes for Viv Michie, he should of been given a debut game mid way through the season.

They shouldn't be judged on 3 quarters of their league debut either.

Sibo has played the odd good game at WAFL level too, filled in with vast stretches of carp. I'm sure he was told to just enjoy himself today as he's got nothing to lose. He was ok, that's all, don't get too excited. Mourish looked superb in his NAB cup game against the Hawks and look how he turned out.

 

[kirbylovespurple]

I was very annoyed when he was subbed out. He was on the wind and took a good contested mark and the commentator even got a bit exited and shouted SIBOSADO! Then 2 seconds later he got subbed out. He didnt look that tired

 

[yakka man]

They shouldn't be judged on 3 quarters of their league debut either.

Sibo has played the odd good game at WAFL level too, filled in with vast stretches of carp. I'm sure he was told to just enjoy himself today as he's got nothing to lose. He was ok, that's all, don't get too excited. Mourish looked superb in his NAB cup game against the Hawks and look how he turned out.

Fair enough but my whole point wasn't just based on Sibo. If he is still no where near fit enough then it may not just be his fault. I don't think our team trains any where near as hard as they should. Casey still looked like a decent contested marker which is exactly what we need in the forward line. Coz as much as I like Bradley he is a shit mark and may be fazed out of the team.

 

[E Shed]

The major point is thought that players shouldn't only be judged on their WAFL performances. We see it time and time again where players don't set the world on fire with their WAFL games but as soon as they get an AFL game they play twice as good. The step up from WAFL to AFL is huge and that means that players are surrounded by team mates with far betters skills, running patterns, fitness and structures.

My point is should Sibo have gotten a debut game earlier? You always need to give your prospects a taste of the bigtime so they know how hard they have to work. Even Pitt to a degree doubles his possession count from WAFL to AFL. Same goes for Viv Michie, he should of been given a debut game mid way through the season.

This this and more this!

 

[E Shed]

They shouldn't be judged on 3 quarters of their league debut either.

Sibo has played the odd good game at WAFL level too, filled in with vast stretches of carp. I'm sure he was told to just enjoy himself today as he's got nothing to lose. He was ok, that's all, don't get too excited. Mourish looked superb in his NAB cup game against the Hawks and look how he turned out.

Sure don't get too excited but seriously, apart from Fyfe, have you seen anyone on our list that looks like taking screamers in the forward line? That has the ball on a string when it's on the ground and can kick 55M on a dime?
He's a serious talent and worth persisting with. As Yakka said it's bewildering that some of these guys haven't had a look in all year just to see what they've got in the bigtime.

 

[OuterWing Parrot]

this substitution was very confusing. it was almost as if it was pre-planned. I expect sibo's performance was a surprise for almost everyone.....including himself. showed plenty of promise and jeepers, maybe he showed enough for another year. did look a little stuffed tho to be honest.

 

[estibador]

OK I've come up with a new theory that gives the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe we want to re-rookie Sibo but to do that we have to delist him and hope he lasts to our pick in the rookie draft. Therefore they got worried he was showing too much and would get other clubs interested.

 

[Scham]

Fair enough but my whole point wasn't just based on Sibo. If he is still no where near fit enough then it may not just be his fault. I don't think our team trains any where near as hard as they should. Casey still looked like a decent contested marker which is exactly what we need in the forward line. Coz as much as I like Bradley he is a shit mark and may be fazed out of the team.

And yet our injuries this year are being blamed on us training too hard???

I know the point you and E Shed are making, and I agree with you both; Sibo did look good yesterday, but my point is he's looked good on the very odd occasion over the last 5 years but his issue is that he can't do it anywhere near regularly. Not even close to it.

If he had've been even a bit consistant, and shown some signs of doing what was asked of him, then I'm sure he would've been given more opportunities at the top level.

We can't have it both ways, most of us want players to earn a call up and not cheapen it by just giving guys a go regardless of WAFL form because a few blokes on BF want their curiosity eased.

Remember, our coaches would've seen Sibo in action for about 30 hours a week over the last 3 years. We see them on the odd game day and at the odd training session. So it might seem bewildering to a few of you that he's not been given a go before now but you perhaps should get over yourselves and realise that we have a coaching dept AND a youth development academy that is a bit more qualified to make those calls.

 

[E Shed]

And yet our injuries this year are being blamed on us training too hard???

I know the point you and E Shed are making, and I agree with you both; Sibo did look good yesterday, but my point is he's looked good on the very odd occasion over the last 5 years but his issue is that he can't do it anywhere near regularly. Not even close to it.

If he had've been even a bit consistant, and shown some signs of doing what was asked of him, then I'm sure he would've been given more opportunities at the top level.

We can't have it both ways, most of us want players to earn a call up and not cheapen it by just giving guys a go regardless of WAFL form because a few blokes on BF want their curiosity eased.

Remember, our coaches would've seen Sibo in action for about 30 hours a week over the last 3 years. We see them on the odd game day and at the odd training session. So it might seem bewildering to a few of you that he's not been given a go before now but you perhaps should get over yourselves and realise that we have a coaching dept AND a youth development academy that is a bit more qualified to make those calls.

Whilst you make good points and argue your side logically, it's the judgement of some at the club that is under question on a few threads at the moment. Michael Johnson plays one good game for the year in the last game of the year yet he is gifted a walk up start every week by the same people making these calls. I thought Sibosado showed more as a forward in 10 minutes yesterday than Mayne, Johnson or Bradley in terms of his contested marking.
AND he looked like he was up for the contest.
At one point in the year Harvey admitted Johnson would have been under pressure to hold his spot if it wasn't for injuries so why not give Sibo a game then and see if he was up for it? At the very least it might have put a rocket up MJ.

 

[DockerLand1]

Whilst you make good points and argue your side logically, it's the judgement of some at the club that is under question on a few threads at the moment. Michael Johnson plays one good game for the year in the last game of the year yet he is gifted a walk up start every week by the same people making these calls. I thought Sibosado showed more as a forward in 10 minutes yesterday than Mayne, Johnson or Bradley in terms of his contested marking.
AND he looked like he was up for the contest.
At one point in the year Harvey admitted Johnson would have been under pressure to hold his spot if it wasn't for injuries so why not give Sibo a game then and see if he was up for it? At the very least it might have put a rocket up MJ.

Very disappointed that Casey didnt get a chance before Round 24. If he is delisted and not returned to Freo I fear that he will get picked up by GWS and will turn into a very good forward.

From the dismal return that our forward gave us this year, I would have thought that the last thing that we can afford to do is delist a player early in his career who could become a highly skilled key position player. Especially a forward!

 

[Pusswah]

Remember, our coaches would've seen Sibo in action for about 30 hours a week over the last 3 years. We see them on the odd game day and at the odd training session. So it might seem bewildering to a few of you that he's not been given a go before now but you perhaps should get over yourselves and realise that we have a coaching dept AND a youth development academy that is a bit more qualified to make those calls.

I find your insistence that our football club knows its arse from its elbow insulting.

 

[Scham]

Whilst you make good points and argue your side logically, it's the judgement of some at the club that is under question on a few threads at the moment. Michael Johnson plays one good game for the year in the last game of the year yet he is gifted a walk up start every week by the same people making these calls. I thought Sibosado showed more as a forward in 10 minutes yesterday than Mayne, Johnson or Bradley in terms of his contested marking.
AND he looked like he was up for the contest.
At one point in the year Harvey admitted Johnson would have been under pressure to hold his spot if it wasn't for injuries so why not give Sibo a game then and see if he was up for it? At the very least it might have put a rocket up MJ.

Yeah, I can't argue with that, Jonno does seem to have a gold pass.

 

[Scham]

I find your insistence that our football club knows its arse from its elbow insulting.

LOL, Fair bump, play on!