Tamblings Ready To Explode

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Mark it down but I thought after half time in the Carlton game was when Tambling came of age as a footballer. I believe that from now on the performances we saw from Richie in that second half will be the sort of play we see from him for 4 quarters. Never mind the possessions as they will come when he does the other things he was doing and that is the hard running, tackling, putting his body on the line when its his turn to do so.

Sometimes it is little things that might go unnoticed that actually turn around and players fortunes, and while everyone remembers the mark in front of Richo but I think that was just the start of the turnaround. The best example of how his desperation will go rewarded was the lead up to his goal. The ball was delivered long into the forward line and the mark was spilled, with the ball heading towards the boundary and 3 Carlton supporters there to make sure that we didn't get the ball Richie appeared from seemingly nowhere and knocked the ball back into the field of play. Not only that he then proceeded to show more desperation than the 3 Carlton players and dived head first into the contest getting to the ball before the Carlton players, this then saw the Carlton player end up infringing on Richie and he was rewarded for his hard work. This is the sort of desperation that will see Richie by seasons end fulfil the promise we were all told about back at the end of the 04 season.

All in all I am looking forward to now watching the kid reach his full potential and by the end of the 08 season I expect that there will no more talk from opposition fans or the media saying that Richie was a poor decision but rather the talk will be about how Richmond got it right.

And Benny Furs, I know I have been critical about you talking him up in the past when he hadn't really shown much but I think that now is the time to start talking the kid up because Tambling is about to explode.

 

[kolchak]

Nice sig.

 

[polakthetiger]

I am not sure I am comfortable with 'explode'...but he is progessing well and should become a very good long term Tiger player. My worry is I tend to see, as many do, the things that make him seem less than top shelf. ie..going missing for extended periods, and that disposal into the forward 50 just last week. Just not something you see from the highly skilled mids. He broke away beautifully from the stoppage, went screaming through HF and then 'helicopter'!!!! Lids would have hit the forward lace out. Still, encouraging signs in the 2nd half I will admit. Go Bling

 

[tony_montana]

no worries benny furs


he wont explode this season, he'll continue getting better and better, still has to rebuild a lot of shattered confidence and self belief..

 

[lookkg386]

But his first half was terrible, needs at least 5 consecutive good games before even say he has made it to AFL level.

 

[osakabull]

I cant believe people think that was a good performance.It was crap.Watch how King reacts after he makes a mistake.You can tell it hurts him and he tries his hardest to make up for it.I dont consider doing one smother, a couple of tackles and a courageous mark as being a good performace.People have low standards here.If he can put in that effort for 4 quarters im willing to concede he isprogressing but currently he has been stationary for some time.

 

[lids2004roar]

First half wasn't nearly as bad as everyone keeps repeating, go watch the replay.

I have always believed in Richie because of several fundamental qualities he possesses. Like Judd, people can sometimes see him as an outside running player when in reality he is a grunt like the Coughlan/Bartel types but with pace and skills.


Positives:

- Statistically he is one of our most effective players.

- Consistently wins a huge percentage of the ball through CONTESTED possessions (again one of the top CP winners last week).

- TOG/midfield time he is one of the best clearance players in the AFL (like Foley was in late 2006).

- Is among the top 2 tacklers in the team.

Problems are mentally he has had a lot to deal with and physically he can't play his natural ball-winning/clearance machine style of play that blew people away in his junior years. In U18s he was getting 33 possessions, 9 tackles, 8 clearances and 4 goals in one match. You can't play this kind of game from a wing or forward flank or with a skinny body. It is impressive how hard he is going in already.

Watching him play against Geelong 3 weeks ago he played twice as good as he did in the 2nd half against Carlton. He was bursting out of the centre just like Foley did last year.

I sense a slow but steady improvement from Bling this year. At times he will fumble because he still isn't sure of himself, and although he keeps putting his body on the line and running till he cramps he needs to feel like a matchwinner before people go to the game just to see him play.

The confidence his teammates have in him will no doubt speed up this process

Deledio says Bling >>> Buddy, well I say Buddy >>> Bling...... for clangers!

 

[Scraps]

I love Richie, i really do. He's got natural ability coming out his ears!!

With the North Melbourne game coming up though, i just can't help make the comparison with Wells. Both brilliant at their best, but we also regularly see their worst.

I just hope that after 6 years (which is how much time Wells has had) Tambling gets his head and his game in sync and he really does exlplode!!

 

[osakabull]

Well compare him to Foley.The difference is simple.Foley worked hard and got results.I think Tambling doesnt work hard enough.He needs to try and run through the lines more and kick more goals.He is quite a good tackler but look where that got Krakour.

 

[Crumden]

Lets hope so RT, if for no other reason than to put an end to these exploding Tambo threads that have been coming up since 2005.

Tambo is about to explode...


I think its more likely though that he will just continue to improve at a gradual pace and throw in the odd glimpse of what he should eventually become.

 

[Rayzorwire]

I cant believe people think that was a good performance.It was crap.Watch how King reacts after he makes a mistake.You can tell it hurts him and he tries his hardest to make up for it.

That's the difference between playing in the backline with the ball coming to you (King) and debuting in positions where you have to constantly make the play to stand out (Tambling). Enough difference to make a player like Raines fool a number of people into thinking he can really play.

There may be a lot of ups and downs in Tambling's 'improvement graph', but year to year he has improved significantly in all areas.

There's no need to worry for a single second whether or not a player with his talent who is committed to being the best he can be will let us down, he won't.

 

[abcxyz]

The thing that I'd like to see more of is the use of his speed to apply defensive pressure.

I love the work he's showing now to win the hard ball, but I'm disappointed when I see him jogging after a player with the ball. He has the pace to apply significant defensive pressure, but to me appears to lack the intensity.

He's improving all the time in other areas, but if he could apply more pressure to the opposition ball handlers he would become a more valuable part of the line-up.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

LOOKOUT HE'S GONNA EXPLODE!!!! (ducks for cover).

 

[deliberate!!]

First half wasn't nearly as bad as everyone keeps repeating, go watch the replay.

I have always believed in Richie because of several fundamental qualities he possesses. Like Judd, people can sometimes see him as an outside running player when in reality he is a grunt like the Coughlan/Bartel types but with pace and skills.


Positives:

- Statistically he is one of our most effective players.

- Consistently wins a huge percentage of the ball through CONTESTED possessions (again one of the top CP winners last week).

- TOG/midfield time he is one of the best clearance players in the AFL (like Foley was in late 2006).

- Is among the top 2 tacklers in the team.

Problems are mentally he has had a lot to deal with and physically he can't play his natural ball-winning/clearance machine style of play that blew people away in his junior years. In U18s he was getting 33 possessions, 9 tackles, 8 clearances and 4 goals in one match. You can't play this kind of game from a wing or forward flank or with a skinny body. It is impressive how hard he is going in already.

Watching him play against Geelong 3 weeks ago he played twice as good as he did in the 2nd half against Carlton. He was bursting out of the centre just like Foley did last year.

I sense a slow but steady improvement from Bling this year. At times he will fumble because he still isn't sure of himself, and although he keeps putting his body on the line and running till he cramps he needs to feel like a matchwinner before people go to the game just to see him play.

The confidence his teammates have in him will no doubt speed up this process

Deledio says Bling >>> Buddy, well I say Buddy >>> Bling...... for clangers!

Come off it Benny.....
People keep saying his first half was crap......WHY?....cause it was!
Do you need to be hit by a train Benny, to know one is near you? FFS
I was at the game, sitting on the AFL Member's wing with mates.....and in front of us Bling's 1st half was atrocious.....many people around me also noticed how out of position, beaten and poor his judgement was.

His second half was passable. Passable......and he owed the club that.

The television lies...
While you may have been watching the T.V. featuring other players, being at the ground showed how out of sorts Bling was......OFF CAMERA.
Either part of a **** up, or not being where he should have.

For example:
At the game, in front of my area at the game, Bling was surrounded by Carltank players......he was starting to fall and lie on the ball......he was going to get nabbed with the ball.
Some dumb ass Carltank player falls on the already falling Bling and Bling gets a free. (Krak used to do the same thing).
At the game, I knew Bling was very, very, very lucky to get out of that situation....he was amount to be gone for all money.
On the replay, they crossed to Wallace in the box who mouths the words "Good Boy" when Bling got the free. The impression on the TV was that Bling had done something honorable, like winning the ball.....when in fact he was the luckiest bugger out there.
So the public watching the TV think Bling's done something great cause the coach thinks so from sitting up in the box. Wallace should have been looking up at the heavens thinking how lucky Bling was. (And that says a lot about Wallace too!)

There's your TV versus game difference.

TV doesn't capture everything....just want it wants to capture.

Smell the roses Benny....

(Everyone should shut up with the "Bling's gonna explode" BS.....or we should start taking names of all these great Nostradamus'. If you really think Bling's about to explode, could you please ring him at the club and ask him what Round it will be......I'm sick of ****ing waiting, and I'd hate to miss the big event........ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz)

 

[lids2004roar]

Fair enough and good post del, come last minute you're right and I wasn't able to get to the game. On tv as far as turnovers or doing silly mistakes goes I can remember 2 instances in the 1st half (both close together) that I'd describe as terrible, otherwise it looked the same as the 2nd half but a little more quiet.

I am also sick of these threads believe it or not, but I'll be the first one to bump a few of the older ones when it happens

 

[bomba4eva]

You have got to stop pumping up this blokes tyres. He has been pathetic his whole career. Why would you put such pressure on him when he can barely manage a half decent game? He was abyssmal last week in the first half and his last quarter wasnt anything to write home about. His 3rd quarter was decent, but only because he was so atrocious the half before. With Tambling, you wont believe he'll be any good until you actually see it with your eyes. Cant see it happening as he has showed very little his entire career. Wasted top pick.

 

[_RT_]

Bugger this a couple of weeks ago I got caned for being overly negative about where I thought the team was and now that I try to show a little bit of positivity I get caned again, it is all well and good jumping on those that have already established themselves as solid contributors and saying they will be good players or will be stars.

Instead of doing that I have decided to back another player who has been the target of not only opposition fans but also some of our own because he doesn't put in 4 quarters each week. Well if thats the case why do we all laud Deledio as a future champion, because I am yet to see him put in a full 4 quarter effort, the closest he came was last years Pies game where he kicked 5. How can we have one rule for some players and another rule for others. They should all be judged against the same standards before we start handing out labels to the kids.

Regardless though I am going to stand by what I have said about Tambling here because I can see the breakout we have all been waiting for is just around the corner, how far around it is I don't know, but before the year is done I believe there will be another thread about Tambling where all of us are celebrating the arrival of the true Tambling.

 

[27YearsOfPain]

Hope you're right RT. I think everyone wants to see him kick arse. Unfortunately all the wishing in the world doesn't necessarily make it so.

I am all for your positivity. You're on pretty safe ground if you say someone is never going to set the world alight. Most people don't. Probability dictates you will be right more often than not. Good on you for backing him in. I will be the first to sing your praises if and when he 'explodes.

 

[lids2004roar]

I've always thought the same thing how people applaud Deledio as a superstar when he isn't doing any more than Tambling out there these days.

In the last 6-7 games (AFL and practice) that Richmond has played, Tambling has been better than Deledio more than half of those times. The last 2 matches in particular Deledio has looked pathetic and disinterested which has been a big let down to me after having high hopes for an early season breakout from him.

Will have a wait a little for both players to step up because neither are there yet.

 

[tony_montana]

are u guys for real? Tamblings been as good as Deledio?

Deledio has been MUCH better value to date. Lets not look at it through rose coloured glasses. Yes, Deledio hasnt taken the next step to matchwinner yet, but hes been a consistently strong contributor from day 1, bling has a lot to do to even get to that point yet! I do think he has the talent to be a great player but I also recongise when a players confidence has been completely SHOT! Bling has a lot of repair work to do just to get that confidence and self belief back that he had when he was playing junior footy.

also benny its a lot easier getting 30possies, 10 clearances and 5 goals in a secondary junior comp than replicating it at AFL level...

 

[_RT_]

are u guys for real? Tamblings been as good as Deledio?

Deledio has been MUCH better value to date. Lets not look at it through rose coloured glasses. Yes, Deledio hasnt taken the next step to matchwinner yet, but hes been a consistently strong contributor from day 1, bling has a lot to do to even get to that point yet! I do think he has the talent to be a great player but I also recongise when a players confidence has been completely SHOT! Bling has a lot of repair work to do just to get that confidence and self belief back that he had when he was playing junior footy.

also benny its a lot easier getting 30possies, 10 clearances and 5 goals in a secondary junior comp than replicating it at AFL level...

No one is disputing that Deledio has been of greater value, what is being said and you even say it yourself is we are still waiting for Lids to take the step from potential matchwinner to actual matchwinner. IMO the only thing that does save Lids from recieving criticism is we have seen him rack up 20 odd possies playing off a HBF and think that this is great while we see Tambling get 10-15 touches playing HF/Midfield and think what a waste. Yet it seems that when Deledio goes to the midfield and gets shut out of games by a tagger no one really gives it to him for not being able to handle a tag. If we are going to be harsh on one player for struggling to become the player we want surely we should be harsh on the other ones as well.

 

[tony_montana]

you said it yourself RT

my point is we criticise Lids for having 15-20 possie games in the midfield, Tambling for 10-15 possie games, Lids's contribution is still reasonable to significant in the context of our side. Theres a difference in productivity, Tambling needs to increase his

 

[Panthera]

Mark it down but I thought after half time in the Carlton game was when Tambling came of age as a footballer. I believe that from now on the performances we saw from Richie in that second half will be the sort of play we see from him for 4 quarters. Never mind the possessions as they will come when he does the other things he was doing and that is the hard running, tackling, putting his body on the line when its his turn to do so.

Sometimes it is little things that might go unnoticed that actually turn around and players fortunes, and while everyone remembers the mark in front of Richo but I think that was just the start of the turnaround. The best example of how his desperation will go rewarded was the lead up to his goal. The ball was delivered long into the forward line and the mark was spilled, with the ball heading towards the boundary and 3 Carlton supporters there to make sure that we didn't get the ball Richie appeared from seemingly nowhere and knocked the ball back into the field of play. Not only that he then proceeded to show more desperation than the 3 Carlton players and dived head first into the contest getting to the ball before the Carlton players, this then saw the Carlton player end up infringing on Richie and he was rewarded for his hard work. This is the sort of desperation that will see Richie by seasons end fulfil the promise we were all told about back at the end of the 04 season.

All in all I am looking forward to now watching the kid reach his full potential and by the end of the 08 season I expect that there will no more talk from opposition fans or the media saying that Richie was a poor decision but rather the talk will be about how Richmond got it right.

And Benny Furs, I know I have been critical about you talking him up in the past when he hadn't really shown much but I think that now is the time to start talking the kid up because Tambling is about to explode.

Whilst I can actually feel you wanting this all to be true, I think deep down you know he is nowhere near becoming a good quality AFL footballer ......he just doens't have it in him unfortunately.

Personally I would want more than a "good" player who plays 150 games from a #4 draft pick

 

[smokey_58au]

Whilst I can actually feel you wanting this all to be true, I think deep down you know he is nowhere near becoming a good quality AFL footballer ......he just doens't have it in him unfortunately.

Personally I would want more than a "good" player who plays 150 games from a #4 draft pick

Just for interest's sake - what's your opinion of Jared Brennan?

 

[_RT_]

you said it yourself RT

my point is we criticise Lids for having 15-20 possie games in the midfield, Tambling for 10-15 possie games, Lids's contribution is still reasonable to significant in the context of our side. Theres a difference in productivity, Tambling needs to increase his

Thats what I am actually suggesting and to make it clear let me say it again, I'm not saying that Tambling has arrived but more that I think that we will see Tambling finally produce what we all have hoped for and do it consistently sometime before the end of the 08 season.