the difference between melb rich

[_RT_]

I note that you don't address the facts in my post. We have a significantly lower supporter base than Richmond's yet have a higher average home attendance. But you think that that's quite acceptable. Not only that, you deride Melbourne supporters for not turning up to games LOL. Get a clue, pal.

We've won our last 3 and aren't likely to play finals. Our attendances have nothing to do with a taste of finals.

Btw, I wouldn't talk too much about last year. Unlike us, your home and overall crowds have dropped, despite the excitement surrounding your list and progress.

Reckon it might have something to do with the Dees having played home games against big drawing sides in Collingwood(67000) Richmond(45000) and Essendon(49000) while Richmond have only had 1 home game against a big drawing side in Carlton(72000).

Interesting to note that in our away games to both Essendon and the Pies we've played in from of over 64000 on both occassions. Now given our last 5 home games against the Pies have averaged over 60000 and the last 5 against the Dons have averaged just under 53000 it would be fair to say that if we did have home games against these 2 this year we would yet again leave the Dees way behind like we have every year since 2005 averaging between 8-13000 more fans to our home games than the Dees.

Average Home Crowds last 6 seasons.
2010 - Richmond 37425(currently 15th) Melbourne 38010(currently 10th)
2009 - Richmond 40782(15th) Melbourne 27570(16th)
2008 - Richmond 43548(9th) Melbourne 30777(16th)
2007 - Richmond 38255(16th) Melbourne 29537(14th)
2006 - Richmond 42929(9th) Melbourne 34520(7th)
2005 - Richmond 35800(12th) Melbourne 39869(7th)

In 07 & 09 when both were in the bottom 3 we outdrew them by 13212(09) & 8718(07) how do you explain the lack of passion shown by Demons fans in those years?

The simple fact is now that the Dees are starting to show a little bit of form the Range Rover brigade have crawled out of the woodwork and are starting to attend a few games, whereas Tigers fans will show up week after week year after year regardless of the results.

 

[Tulip]

The difference: Nathan Foley, Trent Cotchin, Andy Collins and Big Ben Griffths

AND....


JORDAN MCMAHON haha could have kicked another match winner (NOT)


Realistically if the above 3 were playing I believe we would have knocked off Melb, but hey every team has injuries and suspensions I guess..

Then again you could pick names out of a hat for us like Ricky Petterd, Nathan Jones, Jordan Gysberts, Luke Tapscott and Jack Grimes who are all important (or will be) to our structure.

I seriously have begun to rate you guys, I was overseas in June while you had your wins but I love your endeavour. You may be a year or two behind us but your certainly having a better go at it then we did in 2008. Credit to Hardwick for handling the changeover better than Bailey.

 

[Hannabal]

Reckon it might have something to do with the Dees having played home games against big drawing sides in Collingwood(67000) Richmond(45000) and Essendon(49000) while Richmond have only had 1 home game against a big drawing side in Carlton(72000).

My response was to the dolt that suggested that Melb fans should start attending games, when in fact our home game attendances are higher in 2010 than Richmond's. I'm sure you can see the irony.

No doubt there'll be mitigating circumstances from year to year. We have the lowest supporter base in Victoria and our supporters can be as fickle as any clubs, but as we improve you'll see some pretty strong attendances. We don't profess that we'll match your attendances over the journey. And nor do we need to.

It's worth noting that included in our home attendance figures is the paltry 8K we got for our home game in Darwin against Port. I'm not complaining about playing there, merely pointing out how it's affected our figures. We've also played interstate clubs, such as Sydney, Adelaide, West Coast and Brisbane at the 'G. That fixturing isn't consigned to Richmond. It's a wonder Bojangles missed it.

 

[Mr Magic]

Main difference is they(Melb) have more higher drafts and therefore ATM more talent.

This can change going forward naturally

 

[coke_zero]

Main difference is they(Melb) have more higher drafts and therefore ATM more talent.

This can change going forward naturally

We are year one of our rebuild. 1 more good top up and we will have plenty of talent running around at Richmond and down at Coburg.

 

[Rustof]

Of course we lack depth, that's what happens during a first year rebuild.

 

[SA TIGER]

Enough said about comparative attendances, throughout AFL/VFL history it is the Tigers that draw significantly bigger crowds and will continue to do so beyond this season. You only need to look at both Round One matches (aganist Carltank) in the past two seasons. The Dees would only surpass those figures on Grand Final Day, and that's a fact guys!
Admittedly, their 'Premiership Window' is at least one season ahead, but watch the Richmond faithful flock back in droves to the G and beyond WHEN the squad develops into a young and powerful outfit.
To all you Dee supporters out there, please remember Richmond has traditionally been part of the Big 4 clubs of the VFL (incl, Car, Coll & Ess). Currently Hawthorn and Geelong could be included as the Big 6 (only something you Dee supporters can ONLY dream about)!

 

[Tiger08]

My response was to the dolt that suggested that Melb fans should start attending games, when in fact our home game attendances are higher in 2010 than Richmond's. I'm sure you can see the irony.

No doubt there'll be mitigating circumstances from year to year. We have the lowest supporter base in Victoria and our supporters can be as fickle as any clubs, but as we improve you'll see some pretty strong attendances. We don't profess that we'll match your attendances over the journey. And nor do we need to.

It's worth noting that included in our home attendance figures is the paltry 8K we got for our home game in Darwin against Port. I'm not complaining about playing there, merely pointing out how it's affected our figures. We've also played interstate clubs, such as Sydney, Adelaide, West Coast and Brisbane at the 'G. That fixturing isn't consigned to Richmond. It's a wonder Bojangles missed it.

Are you still here? Still not much going on over on the Melbourne board 'eh?

Anyone who uses the word dolt would surely understand the old saying that there's "lies, damned lies and statistics". So try this one - over the past 6 years, there's been roughly 350,000 less attendees at Melbourne home games than Richmond home games. At $20 per ticket, that's $7 million in revenue. How much did the debt demolition raise again? Perhaps if you find a specific stat on "passion", you should post it.

We all know plenty of Melbourne supporters and yes, there's a few passionate ones around (like yourself). My view is that it's just not that common compared with other clubs. Not that you can really blame them. The glory years of the club were more than 50 years ago. Football season coincides with ski season and holidays to Queensland. Most of their supporters are MCC which is a pretty boring place to watch the footy - in comparison with the outer anyway. Don't you think? There's a few too many old private school boys dressing in ralph lauren polo shirts and slacks. C'mon guys - really? You're grown men for god sake.

Melbourne might have a smaller supporter base than Richmond but it's also probably more affluent. On that basis, there's less reason for supporters not to have joined as members. That they don't seem to and only support the club when it's on death's door suggests that, general speaking, their priorities are elsewhere.

 

[Tiger2709]

You know, one day when we win the flag by 5 goals you are still going to be pissed off because we didn't win by ten.

For once it would be nice to hear something from you that is not negative Santa. Give it a try Santa. You'll be a better person and poster for it.

the meaning of the term supporter seems to have escaped santa claws, the Grinch might have been a better nickname, but I guess we all have our own opinions and in the end the only one that really counts is Damien Hardwicks.

 

[Tiger2709]

man, lets see, Out of debt function the other night, Jimmy's battle etc etc is kinda a good impetus in getting this team up for any game now. They will make the 8, the AFL in their wisdom will see to that too. I mean, not going to go gaga at the umps all to much, but i kinda thought, shit, it looked like one team had a back so they could call in the back and the other didnt so they could call play on. Not to mention the times when holding the ball was on the umps mind before the ball was in the pack if it looked like we were going to be FIRST to it. Its all part of the romance of the resurrection of the dees and their pres's battle with the dreaded scourge.

I was feeling the same about the umpires Cogga and not for the first time this year, has it seemed that everyones heads are protected, except our players, but then there was that disgraceful decision against one of the Dees when he not only clearly marked the ball, but also had his arm chopped and they called play on, it was then I realised that the umpires are just rubbish at the moment and the constant rule changes have them totally confused much like the rest of us

 

[Tiger2709]

Both will pass Carlton very soon

That thought gives me a nice warm feeling inside

 

[santa claws]

the meaning of the term supporter seems to have escaped santa claws, the Grinch might have been a better nickname, but I guess we all have our own opinions and in the end the only one that really counts is Damien Hardwicks.

you support them thinking them okay me i support them thinking they are not.
i wonder who its harder for to support them.
i call it as i see it and cheer just as loud as the next bloke come game day. i also put my fair share of money nto the club yet im not a member i suppose that ,makes me a non supporter to.

ya know im more often right than wrong.

15th place and we are forced to play a shed load of kids despite having a senior core of 25 odd players.
in the main the kids are left alone its the so called core group that cop criticism.

 

[Rojik of the Arctic]

To all you Dee supporters out there, please remember Richmond has traditionally been part of the Big 4 clubs of the VFL (incl, Car, Coll & Ess). Currently Hawthorn and Geelong could be included as the Big 6 (only something you Dee supporters can ONLY dream about)!

Dream about? Damn you lot are deluded. I mean I've seen some good posts here but most are just stupid. You are not one of the big teams no matter which way you look at it. You are a team (like us, Footscray, StKilda and Nth) that is a running joke in the AFL and will continue to be so unless you can put the score on the board.

If Richmond (or my own sometimes deluded team) wants to measure success on crowds or membership or bloody idiots that protest a boards decision then we can draft all the kids in the world and it won't make a difference because other teams will be busy measuring their success with flags.

As to the OP the difference was 5 goals - the rest is just subjective conjecture.

Anyway - now is out of the system - I hope you kick the living @#$% out of Carlton this week.

 

[CoggaRules]

Dream about? Damn you lot are deluded. I mean I've seen some good posts here but most are just stupid. You are not one of the big teams no matter which way you look at it. You are a team (like us, Footscray, StKilda and Nth) that is a running joke in the AFL and will continue to be so unless you can put the score on the board.

If Richmond (or my own sometimes deluded team) wants to measure success on crowds or membership or bloody idiots that protest a boards decision then we can draft all the kids in the world and it won't make a difference because other teams will be busy measuring their success with flags.

As to the OP the difference was 5 goals - the rest is just subjective conjecture.

Anyway - now is out of the system - I hope you kick the living @#$% out of Carlton this week.

Far out dude, I knew that the dees supporters would flock to the snow in their range rovers each footy season, but i kind of thought it was falls and or hotham etc. Didnt really know the damage was such that has them heading to the Arctic circle to escape.