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Howard Moon

Howard Moon

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About time we had a tinfoil thread, a safe haven for so called 'crackpots' who have their eyes open to the world, who can see whats really going on.

a place to share theories, discuss events , bitch about 'the man' or whatever else takes your fancy.

I know you are out there! , internet forums dont function without a heavy dose of tinfoilers in darkened rooms....

So whats your theories?

JFK, who did it? why?

Big Pharma - how can you trust an industry that loses money if it does its job well? funny that they have a vaccine within weeks of an epidemic?? like they already knew...

Vaccines - chipping away at kids from the start?

Reptilian shapeshifters?

Flouride in the water.... strong teeth but they wont help your failing body!

Paul Mc cartney , Elvis, hitler.. dead or alive?

Princess di? who did it and why??

chemtrails in the sky? haarp? mind control? controlling the weather?

population control? rfid chips?? cashless society?

Big banks.. tweak the knobs to cause stock market crashes - debt, the new slavery

the everlasting light bulb.... ofcourse its possible.. but theres no money in that..

found a cure for cancer ages ago.. but cancer is a big money industry.. shhh

wars for oil, al quada, isil, terroists, fake enemies, false flags.

global warming, real or fake?

new world order? no world ordeR? illuminati? bilderburg? rockefeller?

subliminal advertising, mass media propaganda, news..... journalist? na reporter - report what the masses need to be told.

moon landing?

9/11 - inside job? plenty of facts about...

ufos? roswell? area 51?

anyone got anything?

i dont really exopect too many replies but ill probably keep banging on anyway... if nothing else it might be a thread to document my ramblings for when they put me away.

but i hope there are a few like minded people out there to share some chatter.
 
Australia a testing ground for Owellian world:

A new report, undoubtedly overblown in its predictions, but still important, states that up to 40% of Australian jobs could be transferred to machines in the next several decades, with a projected loss of five million human jobs by 2030.
See “Australia’s Future Workforce,” issued by CEDA, the Committee for Economic Development of Australia. Stephen Martin, the head of CEDA, states:
“Australia and the world is on the cusp of a new but very different industrial revolution and it is important that we are planning now to ensure our economy does not get left behind.”
Martin is talking about automation, not just in the mining and trucking sectors, but in offices, healthcare, many transportation services—wherever machines can do the jobs now occupied by humans.
Obvious result?
Massive unemployment.
It doesn’t take a genius to see the result of that: increased citizen-dependence on government and government money.
Recently, Prime Minister Tony Abbott declared that the refusal to receive vaccinations would be punished by canceling government-aid $$ to families opting out.
A pincer movement. A clamp.
Increase the need for gov’t. cash through overwhelming automation—and then take that money away when people refuse jabs containing toxic chemicals.
There is more.
Present Australian Globalist policies, which will be exacerbated by the impending TPP Treaty (Trans-Pacific Partnership) = more jobs shipped overseas, more domestic companies going broke.
Further unemployment.
A nasty picture.
A dystopian welfare state of gigantic proportions.
This is the plan, and it’s not just for Australia, but Australia is a kind of test case.
Elite planners are, of course, focusing on questions of population control: “Can we keep order? In the face of widespread unemployment, can we avoid massive riots? Can we shape propaganda messages that will maintain the people in a quiescent passive state? Can we maximize mega-corporate profits? Do we need to reduce the population? Can we sell off huge and huger chunks of the country to foreign companies?”
These are primary Globalist issues for the immediate future.
And then, we have this: What happens when the Australian consumer base shrinks to the point where most people can’t afford to buy the products large corporations manufacture and sell?
Crunch.
Can a whole nation, with few exceptions, be turned into an underclass?
Can vibrant independent people be ground down into a proletariat who are brainwashed enough to believe they still are who they once were?
Can that illusion be sold?
Elite planners are undoubtedly asking: “What traditional conflicts among sectors of the population need to be stimulated, accentuated, pumped up, in order create significant distractions and diversions?”
Keep in mind that, when push comes to shove, when environmental and health issues are seen to create a barrier to trade—and when trade is viewed as absolutely vital in the face of massive unemployment—all bets are off.
A company like Monsanto says, “Look, you people should forget all about your GMO doubts, your pesticide doubts, your fancy-pants environmental issues. Your survival is at stake. Now, we can show you a blueprint for the future of GMO agriculture in Australia. We can take over great swaths of land and grow good food and put money in your pockets. We’re your best hope. Stop your nonsense. Throw your doors open wide and let us in all the way.”
That also is part of the plan.
The media/entertainment sector steps up to the plate as well: “We are going to do everything we can to keep people glued to their screens. Our job is to stimulate the adrenaline flow of the population and lead it into our programs and our news reports, thereby draining it and rendering it inconsequential. There will be no revolution…”
Need more repression and weakness? Hello, pharma. Enrolling every person in a cradle-to-grave medical system will allow the input of hundreds of toxic and debilitating drugs, thereby keeping the population in a grossly weakened state and incapable of rebellion.
The present Surveillance State will be strengthened, to ID and root out dissenters.
Which is why the decentralization of power, along every possible front, is required.
In Australia, as elsewhere, the political leaders and bosses are front men for mega-corporations, and they provide those corporations cover as well. In turn, the corporations, citing their bottom lines and their new breakthrough technologies, give cover to politicians who are bent on exercising control over populations. It’s mutual handwashing. It’s an expanding fungus of organization.
The propaganda, as always, is about “share and care.”
That message is true, in one sense. Big government and big corporations (including banks) do care, once the people are pacified and rendered helpless and dependent.
At which point, the message is actually: “We care about our little people, our slaves, all those too weak to cause any trouble. We love our pets, and we try to keep them happy.”
 
It's been over 20 years since the death of Nirvana's Kurt Cobain, but a former Seattle police chief says the investigation into the frontman's death should be reopened.

Cobain was found dead at his Lake Washington home by an electrician on April 8, 1994. The electrician, Gary Smith, saw no visible signs of trauma, and initially believed that Cobain was asleep until he saw the shotgun pointing at his chin. A high concentration of heroin was found in his body, as well as a suicide note addressed to his childhood imaginary friend 'Boddah'.

According to the official report, Cobain killed himself four days prior to his body being discovered by Smith, but many fans are still adamant that Cobain did not take his own life and believe his wife Courtney Love was behind the premature death of the enigmatic singer.

In a new documentary titled Soaked In Bleach, officer Norm Stamper, who was at the helm of the Seattle Police Department from 1994 until 2000, presents a case from the point of view of private investigator Tom Grant, who was hired by Love to find the missing musician days before he was found dead.

We should in fact have taken steps to study patterns involved in the behavior of key individuals who had a motive to see Kurt Cobain dead. If in fact Kurt Cobain was murdered, as opposed to having committed suicide - and it was possible to learn that - shame on us for not doing that. That was in fact our responsibility. If we didn't get it right the first time, we damn well better get it right the second time.

In 2014, Seattle detectives briefly reviewed the evidence surrounding the case after never-seen-before photos emerged showing inside the singer's home at the time of his death, but the police department quickly decided that nothing from the additional photos implied any foul play.

But in the new documentary, Love's private detective argues that Cobain's apparent suicide note reads as a note announcing theSmells Like Teen Spirit singer was in fact splitting from his wife and says that the last few lines of the note, which do imply suicide, could have been added at a later date by another person.

Grant also claimed in the 1998 documentaryKurt & Courtney (another documentary that also points the blame at Cobain's widow) that Cobain may have been too intoxicated to even pull the trigger, although no evidence has ever suggested Courtney was in any way involved in the death of her husband.

To this day, Seattle police still receive at least one request per week to reopen the case. And the release of this new documentary will only bring even more requests for a fresh inquest.
Courtney Love's legal team tried to stop
Soaked in Bleach from being released. The Film falsely presents a conspiracy theory that accuses Ms. Cobain of orchestrating the death of her husband Kurt Cobain.

Courtney Love's attorney Despite this, the film went ahead and was released on June, 11.

The mystery goes on...

Fess up love!​
 

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popular forms of mind control - do they work on you?

The more we research mind control, the more we come to the conclusion that there is a coordinated script that has been in place for a very long time with the goal to turn the human race into non-thinking automatons. For as long as man has pursued power over the masses, mind control has been orchestrated by those who study human behavior in order to bend large populations to the will of a small “elite” group. Today, we have entered a perilous phase where mind control has taken on a physical, scientific dimension that threatens to become a permanent state if we do not become aware of the tools at the disposal of the technocratic dictatorship unfolding on a worldwide scale.

Sports, Politics, Religion – Some might take offense at seeing religion, or even politics, put alongside sports as a method of mind control. The central theme is the same throughout: divide and conquer. The techniques are quite simple: short circuit the natural tendency of people to cooperate for their survival, and teach them to form teams bent on domination and winning. Sports has always had a role as a key distraction that corrals tribal tendencies into a non-important event, which in modern America has reached ridiculous proportions where protests will break out over a sport celebrity leaving their city, but essential human issues such as liberty are giggled away as inconsequential. Political discourse is strictly in a left-right paradigm of easily controlled opposition, while religion is the backdrop of nearly every war throughout history.

Education — This is the most obvious, yet still remains the most insidious. It has always been a would-be dictator’s ultimate fantasy to “educate” naturally impressionable children, thus it has been a central component to Communist and Fascist tyrannies throughout history.

Advertising and Propaganda – Edward Bernays has been cited as the inventor of the consumerist culture that was designed primarily to target people’s self-image (or lack thereof) in order to turn a want into a need. This was initially envisioned for products such as cigarettes, for example. However, Bernays also noted in his 1928 book, Propaganda, that “propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government.” This can be seen most clearly in the modern police state and the growing citizen snitch culture, wrapped up in the pseudo-patriotic War on Terror. The increasing consolidation of media has enabled the entire corporate structure to merge with government, which now utilizes the concept of propaganda placement. Media; print, movies, television, and cable news can now work seamlessly to integrate an overall message which seems to have the ring of truth because it comes from so many sources, simultaneously.

Food, Water, and Air – Additives, toxins, and other food poisons literally alter brain chemistry to create docility and apathy. Fluoride in drinking water has been proven to lower IQ; Aspartame and MSG are excitotoxins which excite brain cells until they die; and easy access to the fast food that contains these poisons generally has created a population that lacks focus and motivation for any type of active lifestyle. Most of the modern world is perfectly groomed for passive receptiveness — and acceptance — of the dictatorial elite.

Drugs — This can be any addictive substance, but the mission of mind controllers is to be sure you are addicted to something. One major arm of the modern mind control agenda is psychiatry, which aims to define all people by their disorders, as opposed to their human potential. Today, it has been taken to even further extremes as a medical tyranny has taken hold where nearly everyone has some sort of disorder — particularly those who question authority. Worst of all, the modern drug state now has over 25% of U.S. children on mind-numbing medication.

Television, Computer, and “flicker rate”– It’s bad enough that what is “programmed” on your TV is engineered; it is all made easier by literally lulling you to sleep, making it a psycho-social weapon. Flicker rate tests show that alpha brain waves are altered, producing a type of hypnosis — which doesn’t portend well for the latest revelation that lights can transmit coded Internet data by “flickering faster than the eye can see.” The computer’s flicker rate is less, but through video games, social networks, and a basic structure which overloads the brain with information, the rapid pace of modern communication induces an ADHD state. A study of video games revealed that extended play can result in lower blood flow to the brain, sapping emotional control. Furthermore, role-playing games of lifelike war and police state scenarios serve to desensitize a connection to reality.
 
Reppie said:
"Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom." - David Icke

Pretty much sums it up.
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Beautiful!

I really like David Icke, very charismatic, i can listen to him all day. I dont buy the reptilian shapshifting stuff however...
 
Okay, I'll play along.

I have rather grave suspicions about the death of certain underworld types, and just who was behind it. Carl Williams, for one...
 
Doss said:
Okay, I'll play along.

I have rather grave suspicions about the death of certain underworld types, and just who was behind it. Carl Williams, for one...
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Meaning that you think that Carl was killed at the behest of the police/government?
 

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scezza said:
Meaning that you think that Carl was killed at the behest of the police/government?
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From what I remember, there was a police corruption scandal, a few crooked cops were into drug dealing and had an informant murdered. They got off the charge on a crooked internal Inquiry, but Carl had the info that could get this cop outed.

From jail Carl was swapping info on underworld crims for cash for his family, the parties of this crooked cop made some tapes fall Into the hands of an underworld figure who he was grassing on. The same figure had a plebian in the Same yard as Carl.

The guards play indoor cricket for 30 mins, Carl gets killed, ambulance called over an hour later.

Underworld figure gets his revenge on the snitch, crooked cop stays clear.

The dirty world continues to stay dirty.
 
Howard Moon said:
It's been over 20 years since the death of Nirvana's Kurt Cobain, but a former Seattle police chief says the investigation into the frontman's death should be reopened.

Cobain was found dead at his Lake Washington home by an electrician on April 8, 1994. The electrician, Gary Smith, saw no visible signs of trauma, and initially believed that Cobain was asleep until he saw the shotgun pointing at his chin. A high concentration of heroin was found in his body, as well as a suicide note addressed to his childhood imaginary friend 'Boddah'.

According to the official report, Cobain killed himself four days prior to his body being discovered by Smith, but many fans are still adamant that Cobain did not take his own life and believe his wife Courtney Love was behind the premature death of the enigmatic singer.

In a new documentary titled Soaked In Bleach, officer Norm Stamper, who was at the helm of the Seattle Police Department from 1994 until 2000, presents a case from the point of view of private investigator Tom Grant, who was hired by Love to find the missing musician days before he was found dead.

We should in fact have taken steps to study patterns involved in the behavior of key individuals who had a motive to see Kurt Cobain dead. If in fact Kurt Cobain was murdered, as opposed to having committed suicide - and it was possible to learn that - shame on us for not doing that. That was in fact our responsibility. If we didn't get it right the first time, we damn well better get it right the second time.

In 2014, Seattle detectives briefly reviewed the evidence surrounding the case after never-seen-before photos emerged showing inside the singer's home at the time of his death, but the police department quickly decided that nothing from the additional photos implied any foul play.

But in the new documentary, Love's private detective argues that Cobain's apparent suicide note reads as a note announcing theSmells Like Teen Spirit singer was in fact splitting from his wife and says that the last few lines of the note, which do imply suicide, could have been added at a later date by another person.

Grant also claimed in the 1998 documentaryKurt & Courtney (another documentary that also points the blame at Cobain's widow) that Cobain may have been too intoxicated to even pull the trigger, although no evidence has ever suggested Courtney was in any way involved in the death of her husband.

To this day, Seattle police still receive at least one request per week to reopen the case. And the release of this new documentary will only bring even more requests for a fresh inquest.
Courtney Love's legal team tried to stop
Soaked in Bleach from being released. The Film falsely presents a conspiracy theory that accuses Ms. Cobain of orchestrating the death of her husband Kurt Cobain.

Courtney Love's attorney Despite this, the film went ahead and was released on June, 11.

The mystery goes on...

Fess up love!​
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I've read Tom Grant's case file which is a MASSIVE pdf. Aside from the issues with the suicide note, according to Tom;

  • The trigger on the rifle used would have been impossible for Kurt to reach with the pointy end in his mouth. Would have had to use his toes (shoes were on the corpse).
  • The amount of "black tar" heroin injected would have knocked him out almost immediately. Would not have had the time or the coordination to pull the trigger anyway.
They were the big two for mine but I'm sure there were others. The case file was in excess of 100 pages from memory. Think I still have it somewhere..
 
Beerfish said:
I've read Tom Grant's case file which is a MASSIVE pdf. Aside from the issues with the suicide note, according to Tom;

  • The trigger on the rifle used would have been impossible for Kurt to reach with the pointy end in his mouth. Would have had to use his toes (shoes were on the corpse).
  • The amount of "black tar" heroin injected would have knocked him out almost immediately. Would not have had the time or the coordination to pull the trigger anyway.
They were the big two for mine but I'm sure there were others. The case file was in excess of 100 pages from memory. Think I still have it somewhere..
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El duce ... crazy guy carrying a fly swatter for kicks..... but on the advice of Divine Browns pimp (how many degrees of separation in this world)... he was hired by Love to do the hit
 
Hitler lived out his life in Argentina....

Newly declassified FBI documents prove that the government knew Hitler was alive and well, and living in the Andes Mountains long after World War II.

On April 30 1945, Adolf Hitler committed suicide in his underground bunker. His body was later discovered and identified by the Soviets before being rushed back to Russia. Is it really possible that the Soviets have been lying all this time, and that history has purposely been rewritten?
No one thought so until the release of the FBI documents. It seems that it is possible that the most hated man in history escaped war torn Germany and lived a bucolic and peaceful life in the beautiful foothills of the Andes Mountains.

The Intelligence Community Knew.
Recently released FBI documents are beginning to show that not only was Hitler and Eva Braun’s suicide faked, the infamous pair might have had help from the director of the OSS himself, Allen Dulles.
In one FBI document from Los Angles, it is revealed that the agency was well aware of a mysterious submarine making its way up the Argentinian coast dropping off high level Nazi officials. What is even more astonishing is the fact that the FBI knew he was in fact living in the foothills of the Andes.

Who is the Mysterious Informant?
In a Los Angeles letter to the Bureau in August of 1945, an unidentified informant agreed to exchange information for political asylum. What he told agents was stunning.
The informant not only knew Hitler was in Argentina, he was one of the confirmed four men who had met the German submarine. Apparently, two submarines had landed on the Argentinian coast, and Hitler with Eva Braun was on board the second.
The Argentinian government not only welcomed the former German dictator, but also aided in his hiding. The informant went on to not only give detailed directions to the villages that Hitler and his party had passed through, but also credible physical details concerning Hitler.
While for obvious reasons the informant is never named in the FBI papers, he was credible enough to be believed by some agents.

The FBI Tried to Hide Hitler’s Whereabouts.
Even with a detailed physical description and directions the FBI still did not follow up on these new leads. Even with evidence placing the German sub U-530 on the Argentinian coast shortly before finally surrounding, and plenty of eye witness accounts of German official being dropped off, no one investigated.

Even More Evidence is Found:
Along with the FBI documents detailing an eye witness account of Hitler’s whereabouts in Argentina, more evidence is coming to light to help prove that Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun did not die in that bunker.
In 1945, the Naval Attaché in Buenos Aires informed Washington there was a high probability that Hitler and Eva Braun had just arrived in Argentina. This coincides with the sightings of the submarine U-530. Added proof comes in the form of newspaper articles detailing the construction of a Bavarian styled mansion in the foothills of the Andes Mountains.
Further proof comes in the form of architect Alejandro Bustillo who wrote about his design and construction of Hitler’s new home which was financed by earlier wealthy German immigrants.

Irrefutable Evidence that Hitler Escaped:
Perhaps the most damming evidence that Hitler did survive the fall of Germany lies in Russia. With the Soviet occupation of Germany, Hitler’s supposed remains were quickly hidden and sent off to Russia, never to be seen again. That is until 2009, when an archeologist from Connecticut State, Nicholas Bellatoni was allowed to perform DNA testing on one of the skull fragments recovered.
What he discovered set off a reaction through the intelligence and scholarly communities. Not only did the DNA not match any recorded samples thought to be Hitler’s, they did not match Eva Braun’s familiar DNA either. So the question is, what did the Soviets discover in the bunker, and where is Hitler?

Even former general and President Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote to Washington.
It was not only General Eisenhower who was concerned over Hitler’s compete disappearance, Stalin also expressed his concerns. In 1945, the Stars and Stripes newspaper quoted then General Eisenhower as believing that the real possibility existed of Hitler living safely and comfortably in Argentina.

Is it Possible?
With all of the new found evidence coming to light, it is possible and even likely that not only did Hitler escape from Germany; he had the help of the international intelligence community. Released FBI documents prove that they were not only aware of Hitler’s presence in Argentina; they were also helping to cover it up.

It would not be the first time the OSS helped a high ranking Nazi official to escape punishment and capture. Look at the story of Adolf Eichmann who was located in Argentina in the 1960’s.

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This is quite a fascinating thread Howard Moon

I'm aware of many conspiracy theories out there, but am pretty content to know that they exist and don't do a deep dive into them. I look forward to reading the summaries you and others can put there and any associated discussion.
 
Hey mate, im looking forward to it too!

Society does a sterling job of painting free thinkers as nutjobs cause it helps their narrative. I'm not your normal tinfoiler who blindly believes every conspiracy just because it's against the grain and wants to shout it from the rooftops.

I'm just an inquisitive mind who likes to question everything and talk about it with people. Most eye roll pretty quickly and back away slowly but looking forward to putting forward a few theories in here to get some chatter up.
 
Howard Moon said:


El duce ... crazy guy carrying a fly swatter for kicks..... but on the advice of Divine Browns pimp (how many degrees of separation in this world)... he was hired by Love to do the hit
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Yeah only got around to seeing that this year. Not long after that doco he was hit by a train stumbling home from the pub one night..
 
Conspiracy Theory: It’s a term used by many to brush off something that clashes with what they believe in, or have believed in for a long period of time. Taking in new information that runs counter to a current belief system is not easy and can cause the feeling of cognitive dissonance – a term used in modern psychology to describe the feeling of discomfort that arises from being confronted with two or more conflicting ideas, beliefs, or values. It suggests that we have an inner drive to hold onto all of our beliefs and attitudes, avoiding the feelings of discomfort and instability that accompany new ideas, regardless of whether those ideas are backed by evidence and sound logic.

Why do we always believe, without consideration, what is presented to us through mainstream sources? Why do we hold it to be true, without question? Why is it so common for many of us to not even acknowledge, listen, or look at evidence which runs counter to the accepted ideology? To ignore available information which presents an alternative to what is so commonly believed by many – or what we ourselves believe can place the human race in a very vulnerable, gullable state. Even if there is an overwhelming amount of evidence, many find it easy to dismiss.

It’s unfortunate that our world has been riddled with lies, misinformation, and fraud. It’s no secret that if you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.
 
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