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Podcast The Rise of the Black Eagles - Australian Footy in Germany (with Fabian Cordts, AFLG president)

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Australian Rules footy in Germany dates back to 1995 when the Frankfurt Redbacks and Munich Kangaroos were founded. AFL Germany was created with these two teams in 1999 and consisted of two teams until 2003, when the league expanded to include sides from Hamburg and Berlin.

The current president of AFL Germany is Fabian Cordts, who played Australian football in Adelaide for the Unley Jets when he studied there in the early 2000's, was one of the founders of the Hamburg side and supports Carlton in the AFL. He says that there are around 250 players in Germany now, with expatriate Australians making up about 1/3rd of that number.

There are 6 major teams in Germany with teams joining from Cologne (Rheinland) and Stuttgart. An additional side based in Dresden competes in the Czech AFL league. In addition several cities have 9 a side metro teams that feed the major sides.

Distance is a challenge for the amateur league with clubs having to travel up to 800km between cities for matches (comparable to a Melbourne district club traveling to Adelaide to play a game). Cordts explains that there are teams in the Danish league that are just 3 hours away from Hamburg.

They play 16 a side, or 18 a side if agreed to by the other side. The field is an oval in shape, but generally in parks marked out with cones.
In 2009, AFL Germany was reported as being set to ally themselves with American Football in order to gain better access to facilities and funding. Cordts explains that hasn't happened yet for a variety of reasons, but says that the league is still exploring the option.

The same year, former President and Frankfurt founder Malte Schudlich, complained that the AFL was neglecting its overseas leagues. "Since 1995 we have been asking the AFL for support on a regular basis, mostly concerning material. Apart from a few footballs, there was basically no support. We would be in exactly the same situation today if we would have never had any contact with the AFL."

Fabian Cordts says that the AFL still doesn't contribute funding, but says that AFL Europe has been great with administrative assistance, including arranging international competitions like the 9 a side EU Cup. Clubs with partnership agreements do receive limited amounts of gear.

Oddly enough, Cordts says that Hamburg Dockers merchandise is popular in Australia with a large proportion being sent to supporters in Australia.

Germany hasn't sent a team to the International Cup, although Cordts is very keen on the idea, but says its all dependent on sponsorship. AFL Germany is currently trying to arrange sponsorship through German companies with branches in Australia. Germany has competed at the 9-a-side EU Cup competition, finishing 4th at the inaugural competition in 2005, coming runner up in 2007 and third in 2008. Unfortunately, they "proudly came last" in 2013.

If you'd like to be involved in Australian Football in Germany please visit the website at http://aflg.de or the AFL Germany facebook page.

You can listen to the full interview here or on youtube.
 
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In some measure its to do with localising the management. Cordts said that the distance to dresden was quite an issue, and it was simpler to have them play in the CAAFL which is much closer to them (and I believe culturally similar). Im not sure about the Strasburg issue, but i believe the DAFL is fiercely independent, and there might be cultural or language barriers involved.
 
Cordts said that the distance to Dresden was quite an issue, and it was simpler to have them play in the CAAFL which is much closer to them (and I believe culturally similar).

Travel in Germany is not an issue(despite the distances) though regular travel cost would be.
Yes, much simpler for a start up Dresden team to play in Prague.
Prague is now Russian speaking and aligns itself culturally with Vienna as in the old Austra/Hungary Empire.
Strasbourg is a French team of German appearance being on the mutual border it played in the AFLG until the French league was established.

I believe the DAFL is fiercely independent, and there might be cultural or language barriers involved.

The DAFL allowed (and still does allow I pretty sure) Swedish team to play even though Sweden has it's own league and operates independly now.

I chose the phrase "more interaction" because I can see possible problems in teams playing regularly in other established leagues. I see the very occassional interaction by teams. Maybe they go unreported but I see the opportunity to throw in extra games to highlight the season. As I said travel within Germany is comparatively easy. The AFLG has not expanded quickly apparently because of these travel costs. There is a big divide between football in France between the North and the South because of these costs. But the French and the Scandavians including the smaller members manage to send a team to the IC. In that regard there seems to be a big difference in attitude.

Also there are Dutch and Belguim teams at distance costly for regular competition but not for ad hoc games.
And then there is Strasbourg. It's not as if they play a lot of games. The AFLG plays every fortnight.
They could play "friendlies" on alternate weeks.
 

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Spielpland 2014 / Fixture 2014:

05.04. Round 1
Berlin Crocodiles vs Munich Kangaroos
Rheinland Lions vs Hamburg Dockers Australian Football Club

26.04. Round 2
Stuttgart Emus (AFLG) vs Munich
Hamburg vs Berlin

10.05 Round 3
Munich vs Rheinland
Berlin vs Stuttgart

24.05. Round 4
Hamburg vs Munich
Rheinland vs Stuttgart

14.06. Round 5
Berlin vs Rheinland
Stuttgart vs Hamburg

28.06 Round 6
Munich vs Berlin
Hamburg vs Rheinland

12.07. Round 7
Rheinland vs Munich
Stuttgart vs Berlin

26.07. Round 8
Munich vs Stuttgart
Berlin vs Hamburg

09.08. Round 9
Rheinland vs Berlin
Hamburg vs Stuttgart (date tbc)

23.08. Round 10
Munich vs Hamburg
Stuttgart vs Rheinland

13.09. Grand Final

Unfortunately the Frankfurt Redbacks had to withdraw from the 2014 season but will be playing regular games against AFLG Clubs and the Ludwigsburg Taipans


Results

Round 1: Rheinland Lions 9.6.60 def Hamburg Dockers 6.7.43
Round 1: Berlin Crocodiles 3.1.19 def by Munich Kangaroos 18.13.121
Round 1 Friendly: Stuttgart/Ludwigsburg 10.2.62 def by Frankfurt 23.17.155

Round 2: Stuttgart Emus 3.7.25 def by Munich Kangaroos 15.12.102
Round 2: Hamburg Dockers 17.14.116 def. Berlin Crocodiles 5.7.37
(Also 9-a-side friendly, 10.05.2014, 14.00: Frankfurt Redbacks vs Ludwigburg Taipans )
 
So why isn't ther more interaction between the AFLG and the DAFL
especially when you consider Dresden plays in the CAFL
and Strasbourg used to play in the AFLG?

The Odense Lions and the Hamburg Dockers Australian Football Club is in final stage of planning a after season match between the two. And the Aalborg Kangaroos has invited team from Germany to the DAFL OPEN-9's tounament in Aalborg on the 16th of August so more interaction between the two leagues is seen this year.
 

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