Tony Shaw?

[jc37]

I used to love this guy he was my hero. He was legend of a player, full of courage, he bleeded Collingwood, never wasted a touch even though he could not kick over 20 metres, was inspirational and one of my favorite players.

As a coach he was terrible, 3 guys I know who played under him have said he was terrible. Would never admit he was wrong and was too arrogant to listen to other people. As a commentator the guy, hates Collingwood, he seems jealous of our success, anger that his son who clearly was not good enough got delisted and any moment he can get stuck into the pies he will. it makes me feel sad to see a guy who was a legend of the club be so pathetic. He needs to get over the fact that malthouse is and always will be a far better coach then he was.

The guy is a disgrace and should admit he is just a bitter man for no reason.

 

[MiguelRodriguez]

Agree entirely. Ex-coaches or players who get the axe and then go about making a living in the media should keep reserved about their opinions on the club they were formerly involved with or risk looking like big fat sooks. The fact that Brayden was axed just makes this point stronger. Anything Tony Shaw has to say about Collingwood now I take with a jar of salt or just completely ignore. I admire guys like Spud Frawley who can remain at least a bit dignified about their past and not go about attacking the new regime at the first sign of a stuff-up. Shaw now revels in anything negative about the Pies. He hasn't had much fodder until the Didak goings on of the past two-weeks.

 

[MarkT]

If anyone thinks Tony Shaw hates Collingwood they need their heads read. He may well hate Eddie or at least dislike him and he does go over the top with Collingwood criticism but I wouldn’t question his black and white blood. As for his coaching I guess the results speak for themselves. Take 2002 and 2003 out and MM’s wouldn’t be much better while at Collingwood. I can’t defend Shaw’s coaching because he failed but it should be remembered that he had a list that resulted from a long period of inept recruiting. Some of that would be down to his judgements though. MM took over the last placed teama dn with picks 1 & 3 at his disposal. His first year we climbed all the way to 15th. How much is teh coach and how much is the list will always be debated. The relevance of that from Shaw's perspective is in the events that saw him sacked and the afect that had on his relationship with Eddie. I can't argue with sacking a wooden spoon coach though and at the end of the day the coach should be to bitter baout being sacked for finishing last.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The guy's a legend.

He's always been a motor mouth, but he's always been true to himself.

You cant ask more of anyone but to call it how they see it.

 

[MarkT]

Yeh, let’s fact it Timmy, when he was our little p***k we loved him.

 

[Collingwoodrow]

I don't think Tony is anti-Collingwood at all.......I just don't think he looks at the club with Rose Colured glasses like some "supporters" do.

Tony is opiniated, as he should be. He is paid well to have an opinion. Doesn't mean he is always right and often you are asked to give your thoughts on a topic you have not researched well (should be known as the life and times of Robert Walls).

Some people in the media seem a little harsh on their former clubs (Carey, Watson "fish rots at the head", Shaw) because they try and go out of their way to be unbiased.....creating the opposite effect.

The man bleeds black and white....make no mistake.

As for somone mentioning Danny Frawley as being admirable. He comes across as being an afforbale guy........but geezus, he gives the footballing public nothing. Non-stop cliches, riduclously obvious observations (or not so special comments), no opinons.....if this is the crap he reeled out as coach of Richmond is it any wonder they are the laughing stock they are.

 

[I am sick for the pies]

I almost fell off my chair when he picked the pies to beat st kilda this weekend!!! He just tries to be contraversial ... especially against the pies which is dissapointing as he was once a champion of the club.

 

[Rush Stand]

Tony Shaw is the dial-a-quote the media use whenever there is any anti-Collingwood crap the media like to start on. Thats what gets up my nose. The fact that he is supposed to love the club but offers criticism whenever he gets a chance. Was Daicos ever like that? Lou Richards? Which media bloke criticises their own club for that matter? I'd like to know if there is one cause it aint obvious to me. Robert Walls (first grade arseh*le) is frustrated by Carlton but you rarely see him having pot shots at Carlton. Tony Shaw just sticks the knife in whenever he can. His latest comments were regarding our so-called soft draw. He was the one who had Collingwood in bottom four at start of year.

Tony Shaw may have been passionate as a player/coach but why doesnt he have the dignity to be fair when assessing anything Collingwood. He just re-inforces what the rest of the media scum want to hear.

One other point. I rarely hear praise from the bloke regarding the teams good performances to date. He always predicts gloom and doom at the beginning of a new year. He had a chance a couple of weeks ago to name his rising star favourites for this year. All the non-Collingwood blokes had Pendlebury as their number one man, but Tony Shaw could only slot him in as his number 3 choice. I think he had Joel Selwood in as his number 1.

 

[FadeAway]

I used to love this guy he was my hero. He was legend of a player, full of courage, he bleeded Collingwood, never wasted a touch even though he could not kick over 20 metres, was inspirational and one of my favorite players.

As a coach he was terrible, 3 guys I know who played under him have said he was terrible. Would never admit he was wrong and was too arrogant to listen to other people. As a commentator the guy, hates Collingwood, he seems jealous of our success, anger that his son who clearly was not good enough got delisted and any moment he can get stuck into the pies he will. it makes me feel sad to see a guy who was a legend of the club be so pathetic. He needs to get over the fact that malthouse is and always will be a far better coach then he was.

The guy is a disgrace and should admit he is just a bitter man for no reason.

Agree!

 

[MiguelRodriguez]

I don't think Tony is anti-Collingwood at all.......I just don't think he looks at the club with Rose Colured glasses like some "supporters" do.

Tony is opiniated, as he should be. He is paid well to have an opinion. Doesn't mean he is always right and often you are asked to give your thoughts on a topic you have not researched well (should be known as the life and times of Robert Walls).

Some people in the media seem a little harsh on their former clubs (Carey, Watson "fish rots at the head", Shaw) because they try and go out of their way to be unbiased.....creating the opposite effect.

The man bleeds black and white....make no mistake.

As for somone mentioning Danny Frawley as being admirable. He comes across as being an afforbale guy........but geezus, he gives the footballing public nothing. Non-stop cliches, riduclously obvious observations (or not so special comments), no opinons.....if this is the crap he reeled out as coach of Richmond is it any wonder they are the laughing stock they are.

I don't reckon Shawry is anti-collingwood either. I do reckon he is trying to cut himself a niche in the footy journo game by jumping on every Collingwood headline that pops up and running with it, and if it's a negative headline (more often than not) jumping on board with all the other bashers as though he is an Inside Collingwood expert. It could be a case of no one giving a shit if he has positive things to say because it should be a given, and therefore only asking him his opinion on negative issues, hunting for a headline (site S.Lane The Age).

As for Frawley, I don't rate him that high against all the other special commentators either, but he is one bloke who got the arse, and could now dig right into the tigers if he wanted to in order to make headlines. Instead he maintains an unbiased position.

 

[Collingwoodrow]

As for Frawley, I don't rate him that high against all the other special commentators either, but he is one bloke who got the arse, and could now dig right into the tigers if he wanted to in order to make headlines. Instead he maintains an unbiased position.

Yeah...fair enough. I reckon Danny would have a hard time putting the boots into Richmond ATM as he had a fair hand in the current state of the Richmond list (although maybe not as much as Wallace and Walsh like to deflect).

I don't think its in Danny nature either.....he seems like a nice simple country boy.

 

[YouBeauty]

If anyone thinks Tony Shaw hates Collingwood they need their heads read. He may well hate Eddie or at least dislike him and he does go over the top with Collingwood criticism but I wouldn’t question his black and white blood. As for his coaching I guess the results speak for themselves. Take 2002 and 2003 out and MM’s wouldn’t be much better while at Collingwood. I can’t defend Shaw’s coaching because he failed but it should be remembered that he had a list that resulted from a long period of inept recruiting. Some of that would be down to his judgements though. MM took over the last placed teama dn with picks 1 & 3 at his disposal. His first year we climbed all the way to 15th. How much is teh coach and how much is the list will always be debated. The relevance of that from Shaw's perspective is in the events that saw him sacked and the afect that had on his relationship with Eddie. I can't argue with sacking a wooden spoon coach though and at the end of the day the coach should be to bitter baout being sacked for finishing last.

lol, take 02 and 03 out? you're a loser. You were one of those losers a part of the whole anti malthouse thing in 04 and 05.... memories.

Tony Shaw after getting sacked from collingwood is a bitter bitter man, even when we slaughter teams in games, you will always see him finding more positives about the opposition.

 

[MarkT]

I wasn’t part of anything. I still don’t have much time for MM. I am glad he has us playing well in the circumstances. We are about where we were last year which is what I predicted. I don’t think the kids would come on like they have. That is a fantastic sign. When he wins us a flag I will have been wrong. Meanwhile he has a poor winning % and a series of failures. Tony is a failed coach. I wish he wasn't as bitter as he seems. I don't question his love for Collingwood though. It is as least the equal of Eddie's and probably greater than yours and mine combined.

Not sure what constitutes a loser to you but I’m doing ok for myself thanks. Not so confident about your good self.

 

[Nardz]

If anyone thinks Tony Shaw hates Collingwood they need their heads read. He may well hate Eddie or at least dislike him and he does go over the top with Collingwood criticism but I wouldn’t question his black and white blood. As for his coaching I guess the results speak for themselves. Take 2002 and 2003 out and MM’s wouldn’t be much better while at Collingwood. I can’t defend Shaw’s coaching because he failed but it should be remembered that he had a list that resulted from a long period of inept recruiting. Some of that would be down to his judgements though. MM took over the last placed teama dn with picks 1 & 3 at his disposal. His first year we climbed all the way to 15th. How much is teh coach and how much is the list will always be debated. The relevance of that from Shaw's perspective is in the events that saw him sacked and the afect that had on his relationship with Eddie. I can't argue with sacking a wooden spoon coach though and at the end of the day the coach should be to bitter baout being sacked for finishing last.

Tony Shaw coached the club for 4 years and never finished higher than 10th.

by the end of this season Mick wouldve been coach for 8 years, making the finals in 4 of those years (assuming we make it this season). in fact in the past 6 years we've missed the finals twice, and both seasons we were absolutely decimated by injuries.

Have your own opinion on mick, but he was worlds better than tony shaw.

 

[MarkT]

I agree MM is a better coach than Shaw but he has been at it a long time and with Shaw's list went from last to second last. In fact in 2000 he won 2 games after the initial 5 first up wins. That is just some relevant perspective IMO.

 

[Nickelass]

Tony Shaw sh*ts me to tears. Dial-an-anti-collingwood-quote. He realises the only time he gets in the papers is when he's bagging the Pies, so he'll do it at every opportunity. When was the last time he was quoted in the papers for anything but bagging Collingwood?

 

[magpie78]

I like him.

I'd rather he tell it how it is , rather than these fence sitters, just because someone played or coached a club how does that exempt them from being honest? Remember it's his opinion only.

look at other media sychopants that have a relationship with a club, like Barich, Jakovich etc, all they do is rap them up all the time. Is that what you want?
Not for me.

 

[nihh]

I support Tony's opinion in the age today on the Didak affair. I think the club should have been suspended him for 1 week as per the three amigos early on in the year. Some may say Didak hasn't broken any team rules, but a pro footballer shouldn't be out till dawn getting smashed during the season.

To Tony's credit he is only addressing this issue and isn't getting carried away like some other members of the media are with rumour and innuendo.

We took a gamble by playing him against Hawthorn and it didn't pay off because we lost anyway. It would have been better giving him the week off to show the young kids at Collingwood that no matter who you are on the list we are a team and one rule applies for all.

 

[yeah-nah]

Performs in the media as he did on the field. In your face. If he wasnt dial a quote he'd be out of a job because his ability to otherwise provide insight or impart wisdom, is very limited.

But he is right with his angle on the Didak incident.

He loves Collingwood.

 

[david_345]

Shaw was appointed coach too early after he retired. He should never have been coach at that time of his career. Comparing him to Malthouse is idiotic. All SHaw ever knew was Collingwood and how we did things. He brought nothing new to the coaching job because he had no experience in a different setting. If he had done a decent stint working with another coach before coming back to the Pies the situation may have been completely different.

He can shit me at times, especially when he deliberately targets Malthouse but he still is and always will be a champion of our club. Nobody I have ever seen play for us put their body on the line so often and with so much intensity that he did.

 

[Paul.]

Tony Shaw needs to learn to shut both orifaces... although he generally talks out of his arse and shits elsewhere in the meantime.

Even if there were a nice thing to say I'm sure he'd choose something negative first.

I don't rate him anymore... not after he ran into a tree. Idiot.

 

[Coin_Toss]

I can see both sides to the argument. I've no doubt he holds a grudge over Mick Malthouse for a few reasons, and that has effected his opinion. I didn't like it when he said Rhyce Shaw should be traded. He should have defended Rhyce's position at the club, not vice versa.

However, he loves the club. A lifelong Pies supporter.