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If Bailey Smith leaves it just means the club can offer JUH more cash
 
Inside Trading Article

DOGS MAKE BAILEY OFFER​

THE Western Bulldogs have put forward a two-year extension to re-sign Bailey Smithas they move to lock in their three big guns.

However, Smith is expected to wait until deeper into the season before making a contract decision as he gets into the different stages of his recovery from his knee reconstruction.

Geelong, Hawthorn and Collingwood are all expected to be suitors for Smith through the season as he weighs his contract call, while the Dogs' two-year offer would take him through to free agency at the end of his eighth year in 2026.
Along with Smith, the Dogs' other contract priorities are star free agent Tim Englishand gun young forward Jamarra Ugle-Hagan.

English is expected to hold until deeper into the season amid interest from West Coast, which is believed to have met with the ruckman last time he was out of contract, while Ugle-Hagan is the subject of significant interest from a number of clubs.

Gettable revealed last week Richmond was in the hunt, with Hawthorn also chasing the former No.1 pick. Collingwood, Essendon and Sydney have also been linked.

However, the Bulldogs have remained confident with where talks are placed, with the potential of a two-year deal or four-year extension through to free agency. – Callum Twomey
 
Bulldogs85 said:
Inside Trading Article

DOGS MAKE BAILEY OFFER​

THE Western Bulldogs have put forward a two-year extension to re-sign Bailey Smithas they move to lock in their three big guns.

However, Smith is expected to wait until deeper into the season before making a contract decision as he gets into the different stages of his recovery from his knee reconstruction.

Geelong, Hawthorn and Collingwood are all expected to be suitors for Smith through the season as he weighs his contract call, while the Dogs' two-year offer would take him through to free agency at the end of his eighth year in 2026.
Along with Smith, the Dogs' other contract priorities are star free agent Tim Englishand gun young forward Jamarra Ugle-Hagan.

English is expected to hold until deeper into the season amid interest from West Coast, which is believed to have met with the ruckman last time he was out of contract, while Ugle-Hagan is the subject of significant interest from a number of clubs.

Gettable revealed last week Richmond was in the hunt, with Hawthorn also chasing the former No.1 pick. Collingwood, Essendon and Sydney have also been linked.

However, the Bulldogs have remained confident with where talks are placed, with the potential of a two-year deal or four-year extension through to free agency. – Callum Twomey
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Everyone is anxious because if we’re a basket case like last year.. we’re in trouble.
 

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Western Bulldogs close in on re-signing Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, while Tim English’s future is less clear​

There is supreme confidence that one star Bulldog will re-sign with the club, while the other’s future is slightly less clear. SAM LANDSBERGER has the details.
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Western Bulldogs remain confident they will pull off a one-two contracting punch by locking away Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Tim English on deals expected to total around $2 million per season.
Godfather offers for Ugle-Hagan are trickling in, but those close to the emerging superstar are supremely confident he will re-sign at Whitten Oval until 2026 or 2027.

Ugle-Hagan and fellow forward Aaron Naughton – who is locked in until 2032 – are best mates, while the 2020 No.1 draft pick is also extremely tight with Dogs skipper Marcus Bontempelli.

Ugle-Hagan and his family remain extremely appreciative of the club’s support last year after he was racially vilified by St Kilda fans during a game at Marvel Stadium.
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Here it is.... without the gigantic scary head...:)​

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Western Bulldogs close in on re-signing Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, while Tim English’s future is less clear​

There is supreme confidence that one star Bulldog will re-sign with the club, while the other’s future is slightly less clear. SAM LANDSBERGER has the details.

News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/.../49bb13c36f2ea6fcd0f02673f351d7fa#share-tools


Western Bulldogs remain confident they will pull off a one-two contracting punch by locking away Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Tim English on deals expected to total around $2 million per season.

Godfather offers for Ugle-Hagan are trickling in, but those close to the emerging superstar are supremely confident he will re-sign at Whitten Oval until 2026 or 2027.

Ugle-Hagan and fellow forward Aaron Naughton – who is locked in until 2032 – are best mates, while the 2020 No.1 draft pick is also extremely tight with Dogs skipper Marcus Bontempelli.

Ugle-Hagan and his family remain extremely appreciative of the club’s support last year after he was racially vilified by St Kilda fans during a game at Marvel Stadium.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. Photo by Michael Klein.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. Photo by Michael Klein.

The following week, Ugle-Hagan replicated Nicky Winmar’s famous “I’m proud” moment when he lifted his guernsey and pointed to his skin after booting a goal.

Cashed-up clubs – including Richmond and Hawthorn – are tabling contracts worth up to $1.3m for Ugle-Hagan, but it is understood even they have a sense he is going nowhere.

That is a far different scenario to 2018, when the Tigers believed they were certain to land then-Gold Coast captain Tom Lynch before the season had even started.

Alice Ugle, Jamarra’s mother, burst into tears when she found out he would play his first AFL game in 2020 and Ugle-Hagan used his debut speech to tell teammates that rumours he would seek a trade back then were “bull----”.

Another important factor is Ugle-Hagan’s close relationship with the Bulldogs’ next generation academy coach David Newton, who first watched the precocious talent light-up a Kickstart game in Blacktown as a 14-year-old.

When Newton noticed the left-footer could only handball right-handed, he quickly upskilled Ugle-Hagan on both sides of his body.

Ugle-Hagan celebrates a goal. Photo by Michael Klein.

Ugle-Hagan celebrates a goal. Photo by Michael Klein.

While list boss Sam Power still has to table the right contract, Bulldogs fans should breathe easy that a short-term deal should get done as early as mid-season.

The English scenario is slightly less clear, although initial discussions between Power and English’s camp have begun.

The West Australian is a free agent and has strong interest from West Coast as well as a couple of Victorian rivals. Fremantle would be an unlikely destination for English, given they have Sean Darcy and Luke Jackson on long-term deals.

English’s partner, Rudi Ellis, is playing netball for Melbourne Vixens and his older brother, Dan, is living in Melbourne working as solicitor at Herbert Smith Freehills.

Like English, Ellis comes out of contract at the Vixens this season. She also still owns a property in Perth.
Clubs are wary of offering one-position players long contracts after Collingwood’s decision to re-sign Brodie Grundy for seven years backfired.

English is the reigning All-Australian ruckman, but only finished seventh in the Dogs’ best-and-fairest last year.

Tim English. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

Tim English. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images)

There are suggestions the Eagles’ interest has slightly cooled in recent months, although they are still expected to make a seven-figure play for the big man.

List bosses believe English and Brisbane Lions midfielder Hugh McCluggage are the clear standouts in what is a relatively underwhelming free agency pool in 2024.

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Rivals would be happy to pay English overs to prise him out of the kennel because – unless the Dogs match a free-agency offer to force a trade – they would not have to sacrifice an early draft pick. That means that English could become a $1m player at a new club, but might have to settle for slightly less to remain a Bulldog.

The Dogs lost understudy Jordon Sweet to Port Adelaide last year and would have to find an instant replacement, unless 208cm youngster Sam Darcy becomes an option in the ruck.

The early indications are that Ugle-Hagan will re-sign first. While an English extension should also get done, the longer the Bulldogs allow the situation to drag out would only invite more rivals to join the list of clubs wanting to poach him.
 
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Whether there is anything to the calls that he is gone or not.

I think that we saw a pretty, pretty, pretty good example on the weekend as to how important Smith is to the structure of our side.

We sure could do with his willingness to take the game on and with his metres gained and occasionally wayward kicking right about now.
 
I’d be very happy if we can get JUH & Smith signed on sooner, rather than later.

English I’d like to keep too, but it appears he will be chasing the biggest deal he can get. Well if that’s the case Timmy, then play like you earn it because Sunday was one of your worst performances in the last few years.
 
Norm De Guerre said:
Whether there is anything to the calls that he is gone or not.

I think that we saw a pretty, pretty, pretty good example on the weekend as to how important Smith is to the structure of our side.

We sure could do with his willingness to take the game on and with his metres gained and occasionally wayward kicking right about now.
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Our next coach will get the best out of him if he stays.
 
Golden_6 said:
Not thrilled at all with that Jamarra news. 2 or 3 year extension? We’ll be back talking about him being out of contract in no time.

4 would be the minimum I’d be comfortable with.
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Would much rather a long termer 7 years but just doesn’t really make as much sense for him as short term tbh. I’d be happy just to get it done and then hopefully we improve under a likely new coach

Signing Baz and Marra would be huge even if we’re back here again that’s just how it is for these guys. It’s either 9 years or 2 til FA these days. English meh not fussed either way
 
doggies ftw said:
Would much rather a long termer 7 years but just doesn’t really make as much sense for him as short term tbh. I’d be happy just to get it done and then hopefully we improve under a likely new coach

Signing Baz and Marra would be huge even if we’re back here again that’s just how it is for these guys. It’s either 9 years or 2 til FA these days. English meh not fussed either way
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A 4 year contract would take Marra to FA. A 2 year contract just makes me very uneasy.
 
MaxiBont said:
I think it’s getting to the point where I’d be annoyed if we re-sign English. He doesn’t contribute enough to us winning footy games for the price he’d want
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There’s a lot of supporters off him after the weekend. I can handle a softer Tim in the ruck as long as he’s working back hard and intercept marking in D50. He didn’t on the weekend either.
 

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