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Watching India V England last night I noticed that Zimbabwe's best known umpire - Robinson was officiating. In the short time I was watching, he again (as he did here) starts making appalling decisions. Hussain LBW, pitches on leg and spins further away. Vaughan caught, clearly hits his pad (no replay needed - too obvious). This guy isn't up to it and is influencing matches beyond any reasonable level. For players like Vaughan, he may be shortening careers. There must be betters umpires.
 
I didn't see the Vaughan dismissal but what was he thinking for the Hussain LBW. The ball pitched on middle, middle and off, and you could see all three stumps when it hit him. I can't remember ever seeing an easier decision to give not out, given out.

As you mentioned though, his umpiring hasn't been up to scratch but he's not alone on the international panel lately. Umpire Venkat has made some shockers although thankfully (and embarrassingly) they've mainly been in favour of Australia.

I think the whole panel needs to be looked at.
 
Pathetic umpiring indeed...was watching it last night, and couldn't believe it when Hussain was given out. Costly dismissal because all of a sudden, the Poms went from cruising to deep trouble.

But he is definitely not up to it - the sooner they get this elite panel happening the better.

But it was an interesting day's play - Kumble is back, but I thought Ganguly was far too defensive at times. And if India aren't fined for their ridiculously slow over rate it's a disgrace. 13 overs an hour with 2 spinners on is hopeless. But I bet the ICC referee will be soft after the Sehwag debacle.
 
Umpire Robinson is the most stupidist and fortunate umpire in the world!! He should not be umpiring that Test Cricket level, he should have his badge stripped from him and he should be sent back to U10 level!!!
:mad:

dear me! :o
 

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Aparrently Robinson said a while back
'I'm in the top 3 umpires in the world & I'm, not necessarily no3'-what a joke.

As for Nasser Hussain he's copped so many absolutely shockers in the last 18 months it's untrue, it's enough to say that this wasn't the worst of the bunch.

His luck may be turning though as he's lost his last 11 Test match tosses & 15 international ones in a row but he won this one (hallelujah!) & despite the usual collapse 'Aussie' Craig White steadied the ship with his firts Test match century & we posted over 400.I think we had them about 2/70 at stumps.
 
May I just say well batted to Craig White....it was a very determined innings. I never thought I would find myself barracking for the Poms in anything, but I can't stand Ganguly and his arrogance. Might go watch it now!
 
Well, our umpiring standard has been pretty low for a long time. Hair is hopeless, and the last decent ump we had turned out to be quite indecent....if you know what I mean... :eek:

Before that, we have to look back to Tony Crafter....

I read in today's paper that the cricket academy is being expanded to include umpires with the view of turning out better quality umpires from Australia. About time....
 
He must have had a Barry Crocker (shocker!) of a month in umpiring decisions. I heard the British press were giving him heaps over his decisions in India.
 
Geez, I can't remember who did the Sth Africa/India tests, but some of their decisions were just as bad.

Thinking about it some more, would ex-players (say, first class or Test standard) make better umpires than blokes that didn't get to a reasonable standard themselves? They certainly would have better feel for some things that happen in the middle and wouldn't be pressured by some of the more excitable appealers going around.
 
Yeah virtually all if not all the English umpires are ex pros, some of them ex Test match players.
Whilst not infallible the overall standard seems better than some of the muppets that get sent over to stand in Tests plus I think they don't get pressurised as easily.
 
Yeah, I was going to add like the English system, Dipp. They do have consistently the best umpires of the lot for that reason, they've played the game at a high standard. Why can't the rest of the cricket world do the same?
 

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Actually a lot of umpires on the English 1st Class panel aren't actually qualified. With ex-players it's a bit of an 'old boys' network.

I've actually umpired quite a few ex county players (and received favourable comments back I'm pleased to say). I've chatted to a couple on this very subject. We felt that the real issue for the umpire depends upon how they dispense their authority. The worst ones go straight into the pompous "I'm in charge" mode which creates an immediate bad atmosphere. Former 1st Class players already have a 'feel' for the situation and generally stop things from getting inflamed. The likes of Peter Willey and Venkat are very good here (although the former would just have to threaten to thump someone to restore order). I always try to establish good terms, at least with the captain, bowlers and batsmen as they appear (the keeper is also useful). You can normally stop a 'situation' developing with a quick, unseen word between overs.

As for decision making, there's not much in it. I've seen David Shepherd (for me the best around today) make some real howlers and some excellent ones from umpires who probably never played at all.

Part of the problem is the increased use of T.V. Nothing irritates me more when you see a run out on 1000/sec freeze frames. The batsman is in or out by six inches and the commentator describes it as easy. Look at it full speed to see what an umpire decides on normally. Also the so called 'big edge' to the keeper standing up. Believe me, from 22 yards away with a dark ball going into dark gloves the chances of seeing a deflection are minimal. You go on sound, and if you are unsure on the sound? The leg side, the glove/pad/thigh pad call is probably the hardest of all. It may appear obvious on TV, slowed down and blown up but understand what it is like to judge straight away before you call it 'horrible'. You would also be surprised with LBW's how much that appears 'plumb' will actually miss, and by a big margin.
 
I absolutely agree Booze Hound in regard to the TV replays. As far as the lights concerned I'm not too sure how much TV improves it for the viewers. However, I think it was pretty bright on the 1st day of the test between India and England and I think the light was also good at the WACA when Robinson was umpiring Australia V NZ. For the umpires, bat pad catches are often difficult to give and LBW's aren't much easier. However, while sitting on my couch if I can see the ball spinning away to CLEARLY miss leg stump (Hussain given out), or if I can clearly see the ball hit Vaughan's pad only and he is given out caught, then there is a major problem. I don't even follow England and I really don't care who wins that series. I don't follow NZ either but I thought Robinson crucified them. If the decsion is close, I think most cricket observers are OK with the umpire giving it not out. That's the rule isn't it? But when TV viewers can see what the umpire can't see on bright sunny days, then the umpire is either incompetent or a cheat.

BTW Booze Hound, I'm not suggesting that you think Robinson is a great umpire.
 
As a kiwi supporter I'm well used to average umpiring. We don't get into many winning positions and I'm used to umpires contributing to that.

In South Africa the umpire apologising to Morrision for not giving out the batsman at the end of his over because he got flustered when the batsman didn't walk.

Against the Sri Lankan's Parore takes a diving catch of a thick edge given not out, next ball a plum LBW is signaled four runs of the bat. Cairns fined 75% of his match fee for dissent.

Television be damned. While that black strip inline with the wickets is entertaining for LBW replays I'm not going to hang umpires who make judgements that are consistent, give the batsman some benefit, and are fairly close.

During the course of every series the umpires will make mistakes, it is just when they favour one team, or stuff up the routine decisions against NZ that annoy me.

I'm sick of NZ cricket being treated as a training ground for inexperienced umpires.

At the international level there are people umpiring this game who should be paying customers like the rest of us.
 
Haven't seen enough to judge.

The best three at the momeny IHO are David Shepherd, Steve Bucknor and Peter Willey.

The worst, the guy in Sri Lanka last year who gave Alec Stewart out when the ball pitched a foot outside leg stump. No excuse for the one.
 

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