VCE Grading system?

[WakeUpPies]

Hey guys i am a bit confused.

You know how in school you get

A+ -90-100%
A -80-90%

and so on, how does it work in VCE, some guy told me A+ is 80%+?

 

[skelly12]

Hey guys i am a bit confused.

You know how in school you get

A+ -90-100%
A -80-90%

and so on, how does it work in VCE, some guy told me A+ is 80%+?

Its not that simple. Initially your teacher may give you an A+ for something around 85%, however any sac marks you get can go up or down based upon your classes exam scores. If your class averages 80% in Sacs but then averages 90% in exams, your sac scores will be raised to correspond with exam scores. I.e your sac scores could rise from 80% to 85%, effectively giving you a low A+.

Hope that helps.

Oh and if your an outlier in your class, ie you average 95% in sacs whereas your class averages 80%. As long as you maintain your score in your exam, you will not be affected by your classes scaling.

 

[Jabso]

It's a stupid statistics based system how SACs and the exams are weighted. How about trusting the schools to employ teachers that assess their students consistently or at least just have some auditing procedures rather than punishing the kids.

 

[mdc]

It's a stupid statistics based system how SACs and the exams are weighted. How about trusting the schools to employ teachers that assess their students consistently or at least just have some auditing procedures rather than punishing the kids.

In some magical fantasy land maybe. Not only are the marking schemes wildly different between schools, even teachers within the same school are rarely in agreement. That's why cross-marking exists (although it's not employed nearly as extensively as it should).

The funny thing is, even if all teachers across the state were able to assess all students consistently, the resulting marks would actually fall naturally into a normal distribution - exactly the "stupid statistics based system" that's used now.

The only students standardised testing "punishes" are those who are being marked too leniently by their teachers.

To answer the OP, here's the easiest way to understand it:
- Your actual marks in SACs don't matter; all that matters is where you are ranked in the class.
- Let's take VCE English as an example, and say you finished 5th in your class at the end of the year.
- In the English exam, you got 85%. The best 5 marks in your class were 98%, 95%, 94%, 91% and 90%.
- Then to calculate your score, you take the average of the 5th best mark (i.e. 90%) to your mark (i.e. 85%), giving you a score of 87.5%.

 

[beez]

The whole system is flawed

English - I got A+ for all written SAC's and an A for my oral and got a study score of 38 - was pissed I didnt get 40

Specialists Maths - Cant remember all my SAC scores, but they were mostly s**thouse, including a 6/38 Yet I got a study score of 30

 

[Shellz]

psft good luck working it out!!!

 

[Whacker]

Its based on your ranking compared to everyone in the state . You could be the best in your school but be only halfway compared to everyone else

 

[swiftdog]

The scaling system is incredibly weird. I think a raw score of 40+ is the top 8% of students studying that subject. So most likely an A average as WakeUpTaz mentioned should get you approx a 40, mainly due to the large majority of Victoria doing 3/4 English. The amount a certain subject gets scaled is determined by the results that the other people studying that subject get in other courses (using Spec maths as Beez pointed out as an example). In general, Specialist Maths kids are smarter than most others as is determined by their results in other subjects (say Physics, Methods, Chemistry, and English for a particular student). Spec is graded ridicously high due to th fact that it's the "stiffest" competition per se (actually, I think Latin may be higher) and supposebly competing against the best students in the state.

In contrast a subject a subject like Media (not having a go at it, I did Media in yr 12) attracts a lot of the, how do i put this without sounding like a w@nker... people who don't give a stuff about their ENTER. This in turn is scaled down as the competition to get into the top 8% in the state for Media is not as difficult as compared to Spec.

A heap of people seem to complain that "but media is still not easy" but this argument is wrong. Spec was incredibly difficult and a shiteload harder than media. I think that the system works because most people that do some of the more hands on subjects tend to lean towards more hands on type of work in the future. Medicine at Melbourne Uni is probably requires a very high ENTER (I think, i don't know) and it is encouraging to know (and it makes sense) that the kids who are able to pull a very high ter score whilst competing in the subjects with the stiffest competition are the ones that will be the people to look after our health.

P.S. Enter doesn't count for anything once you reach uni.

 

[MagpieGirl_13]

QLD>>>>>>>VIC (for schooling that is).