Vickery vs Trade

[Tigertom]

We allready have a couple of young 200cm+ players who can't get a game. Maybe they are injured or perhaps just not up to it YET?

I would have reservations about recruiting annother big young fella with our first pick. Recent history shows that first round rucks are no better than later ones.

I would like to look at someone like Street for a 4th or 5th round pick to bolster our ruck division.

 

[Tivers]

Good points.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Street is a hack. Vickery is very good but I worry that 200cm is the new 196cm, if you get my drift.

 

[Tigertom]

Street is a hack. Vickery is very good but I worry that 200cm is the new 196cm, if you get my drift.

What do you expect for a fourth or fith round pick? Cox?

When do you suppose we will stop rebuilding and start delivering?

Vickery will be 18 in 09, and will be just starting to compete (body strength wise) in 2013 to 2015 when he will be 22 to 24. Similar age to Putt and Graham.

Meanwhile Simmonds will have been retired for a number of years.

 

[richoatthedisco]

What do you expect for a fourth or fith round pick? Cox?

When do you suppose we will stop rebuilding and start delivering?

Vickery will be 18 in 09, and will be just starting to compete (body strength wise) in 2013 to 2015 when he will be 22 to 24. Similar age to Putt and Graham.

Meanwhile Simmonds will have been retired for a number of years.

Hacks don't deliver. See where I said go for Warnock? Or Griffin?

 

[Tigertom]

Agree with Warnock or Griffin but wonder if the price is to high?

With an experienced 26 to 28 year old (like Street etc) who will be around for four or five years while Patto, Putt and Graham and another big fella with one of our 3rd or 4th round picks in this years draft come on.

We need someone now to work with our young midfield and a 6'11" would be an asset even if as a third string ruckman.

Warnock and Griffin will develop to be good players but they are maybe three or four years from that.

 

[Tigerballs]

Id have Street before Cartledge and Graham.

 

[Catsace]

Ruckmen are a tough group to genuinely draft for if looking for quick results. All young talls take quite a bit of time, there's an interview with Mark Blake today in the Hun yesterday.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24362290-19766,00.html

In that interview he mentions how few of his ruckmen opponents are younger than himself, as he, at 23 is in his 4th year of senior footy. Even the Luenbergers, Kruizers etc will not be frontline ruckmen for at least another couple of seasons.

Geelong addressed their concerns about King's durability by seeking out a big name tall, and Brad Ottens expressed a desire to join Geelong (or Sydney). Back in 2004 we had only the underwhelming quality of Paul Chambers and David Loats as backup for King, so seeing how at that stage the midfield had developed nicely (much like the Tiger's has now by the way) Geelong traded away some good picks for their man.

Street wouldn't be a bad option by the way. He is very tall, can get plenty of hitouts, and i reckon the Tigers midfielders are harder nuts than some of the more forward of the ball Doggies that struggle to win contested possession. He would also come pretty cheap. It's interesting though seeing this discussion about the Tigers requiring ruckmen, as last year, a premiership ruckman in King was virtually handed away for free by Geelong, he and Charlie Gardiner for an unused pick 90. Would Tiger fans now, in hindsight, believed maybe getting King last year would have been a good call?