Victorian Covid Outbreak 2021
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The government doesn’t need to say anything to ‘scare us into submission’
There are pretty much two groups of people. Those who see what’s happening around the world and want to avoid, they don’t need convincing. Then there are those who think we are somehow above that happening to us, and they can’t be convinced.
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If you think what is happening in India can happen here, you clearly know nothing about the conditions in India.
Perhaps not India. The US and Europe though? Absolutely. I definitely know what happened in Victoria last year can happen again.
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What’s the difference - especially with regards to the US?
Jesus Christ that is an embarrassing question.
Australia has one of the lowest densities in the world. The US has 35.71 people per square km compared to Australia which has 3 people per square km.
Educate yourself
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Touche.
We aren't all spread out across the entire country though are we? 90% of our country is barren
Victoria sits at 28 people per square kilometer. Minnesota sits at 26.3 people per square kilometre and has had 603,000 cases and 7,500 deaths out of a population of 5.6 million.
So it doesn't matter in Australia that we have lockdowns because we have a good healthcare system so you don't need a job?
It's good to see you've gotten to the right result but the method is... questionable
Now you're trying to justify lockdowns because we have a better healthcare system than the US.
Stop trying to compare two vastly different countries.
Australia is much more protected because we are an island. All of the countries you have referred to are nowhere near as secluded and have much less opportunity to keep people out. Apples and oranges
Sure, we are protected. But once you let it in, there goes that protection. What's the difference then?
So now you've got to the right answer with a questionable method
The government is shithouse and has let it in every time. Both state and federal
Yet you continue to blindly follow them and try to justify everything that they have done
And you know who pays for it every time? The citizens while the government locks down because that is all they know what to do
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I reckon starting next weekend we will have games played in Melbourne again, but with some fairly strict crowd restrictions in place. Hopefully the season can mostly resume as normal from then on.
It's their fault every time because we are 15 months into the pandemic and they have done literally nothing to improve the system set up overnight by the states. Everything has been on the states.
You are genuinely sitting there trying to justify every mistake the government has made and trying to put every single bit of it on the federal government, who mind you, have been shithouse too.
How is it that Victoria has recorded 90 odd percent of the deaths? Must be someone else's fault.
How has victoria ended up in lockdown 4 times and under much more severe conditions? Only happens in Victoria.
Other states haven't needed such harsh lockdowns to get on top of things.. whose fault is that?
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Nope.
I think Victoria's contact tracing system this time last year was absolutely ****ed and unwillingness to lockdown equally poor. I also think the way the border closure with NSW panned out was poor. I think there should be a review of contact tracing because despite it being undeniably very good throughout this outbreak, it obviously missed a link between the index case and the outbreak found 20 days later. We should always be looking to improve upon our systems that protect us. I also feel we may have missed an opportunity to lockdown slightly earlier, once we knew the outbreak had been spreading for 20 days it was probably clear then. Perhaps that shaves a week off the overall lockdown length. Also now we know the West Melbourne cluster is linked to a HQ breach in Victoria, the cause should be investigated and ways to improve the system further explored. We know the federal government won't do it.
Again, nope. Most of the things I point out are things that have been happening. Contact tracing is constantly improving, last time we had a quarantine leak we paused the program to completely overhaul the ventilation system at hotels, the border system now is much clearer, and we've sure as s**t learnt to not wait until 100+ cases a day before locking down.
