WA Leadership Tensions
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Just quoting an example of the numerous broken promises by this inept government. Face it, if it was an ALP broken promise, you'd be spewing.
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Here's your answer; the current government was never actually any good, but the mining boom ensured most people were well off and happy. When the mining boom ended, the deficit ballooned and they had no answer how to address it. Now they want to bring debt down by selling the silverware but people have pretty much turned against privatisation. This isn't a manufactured scandal, the government is just not very good.
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I am a Liberal voter but next state election I will be voting Labor purely to get rid of Liza Harvey
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Surprised he had any left after the Conflict of Interest stuff The West dug up. Was astonished he was left in Cabinet.
Certainly think it will be a lot closer than the polls suggest. Don't think McGowan has it in him to take the required seats, but hung Parliament could be a distinct possibility.
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McGowan a lefty? That's cute. Like any modern Labor leader, his economic credentials are centre to right.
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sorry can't remember when they were last in parliament in WA
Too young to remember? It was only 7 years ago.
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People sooked when Carpenter called the election to be during the 2008 Olympics because apparently paying attention to both was just too hard.
Lol. It was because he called it during Liberal leadership issues and it looked like cynical opportunism. Ended up backfiring on him.
Just on a side note, compared to elsewhere in Aust, rental prices in Perth at the moment are amazingly reasonable. Be happy.
Barnett's simple problem is that successor #1, buswell, destroyed himself, and successor #2, porter, decided he had bigger fish to fry.
State politics being the shallow talent pool that it is, it's just a fact of life that very few governments have more than two people on the front bench who are premier in waiting material and if you lose the two obvious candidates in the space of one term of government, there aren't going to be many alternative options.
Apart from the fact that he is a dirty rat, Nalder may have the worst case of unwarranted self importance of any politician in living memory. Other than being responsible for the only genuine corruption scandal of the Barnett era within months of becoming a minister, what the * has he actually done?
Barnett's simple problem is that successor #1, buswell, destroyed himself, and successor #2, porter, decided he had bigger fish to fry.
State politics being the shallow talent pool that it is, it's just a fact of life that very few governments have more than two people on the front bench who are premier in waiting material and if you lose the two obvious candidates in the space of one term of government, there aren't going to be many alternative options.
Apart from the fact that he is a dirty rat, Nalder may have the worst case of unwarranted self importance of any politician in living memory. Other than being responsible for the only genuine corruption scandal of the Barnett era within months of becoming a minister, what the * has he actually done?
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The unqualified success that is Roe 8????
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A NEW-LOOK Liberal-National Government could see Liza Harvey as Premier, Mike Nahan as deputy and Dean Nalder as Treasurer, sources say.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...r/news-story/2fabd1eaa48c9f791076bf9cac0bfcb9
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...r/news-story/2fabd1eaa48c9f791076bf9cac0bfcb9
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Anyone willing to split a moving truck to drive across the nullarbor?
Open hand, I vote Labor/Greens, so you know, I'll whinge about anything, But * we're lacking some talent on both sides.
The problem with the ellenbrook rail line isn't that it's warranted (which it most certainly isn't), it's that both parties took a commitment to the election to fund it (which they shouldn't have).
It's a great example of the poor state of politics, especially at state level. One party makes an idiotic populist commitment that makes zero sense any way you look at it, and the other panics in desperation that they might lose some votes so they match it without even thinking. Morons the lot of them.
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The Ellenbrook rail line isn't an idiotic commitment if you look at WA as a society and not a business. Public transport infrastructure is not something that should be held off on until you reach some magical dollar figure in the business case. If you do, roads get choked, outer suburbs don't grow quickly enough etc. Public transport should come before these estates are built miles from nowhere otherwise you get another soulless enterprise, with everyone jumping in their cars to go work in Perth.
building public transport must be justified in some ways. My understanding is the ellenbrook line would be getting around 20% of the traffic it would require just to break even on operating costs. Just not viable.
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This isn't like Mandurah or Joondalup where the public benefit was clearly there despite the harping of critics. This is a boutique rail line for a (relatively) small suburb that's only on the agenda because Labor wanted to get Rita Saffioti elected and the Libs wanted Frank Alban re-elected.
The fact it's getting second-string treatment in the Metronet rollout is indicative of how unnecessary it is. Ring line through the southeast is a bigger priority numbers-wise.
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It's not a one stop line; the latest model has it going through Morley and a few other populous suburbs. I agree it's not the most important, but it's better to get something than nothing in this area, and the Ellenbrook line had the publicity in 2008. Metronet is actually a great idea; we need to build around public transport not vice versa.
Metronet was a fine long term vision. But most of it was based in fantasy about what Perth should be, not what Perth actually is. Like having 6 rail lines running through one set of tracks on the midland line. It would have been disaster. And a train line down Reid Hwy? Why would you want to spend billions on empty trains?
A train line to Ellenbrook would have been mostly empty, especially outside peak hour. There just isn't the population there, nor is there the population on the way out there to warrant a mass transport system like heavy rail. It would have meant trains going on the hour, which is a complete waste of money whichever way you look at it. And both sides of politics knew it. By all means keep the rail reserves and keep the planning in place, so that when the population exists (and you'd need about 5 times as many people as now) it can be built. But right now? Utterly insane.
