Wallace article in HUN

[Tigerland]

Don't have a link but well worth a read. Explains a few things - 2011 etc.

Confirms what I believe - I have no doubt Wallace is an excellent Coach, the Jury is still out on Miller.

 

[Sixtyseven]

Wallace must stay as coach but the Board needs to make a decisive call on Miller. It continues to condone conflict of interest & Miller's role as both a Director & a paid employee. He is able to wield far too much influence & power. Acceptance of compromise at the Board level sets a standard of mediocrity from the very top!

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21576127%5E19771,00.html

Tiger critics have taken eye off ball
18 April 2007 Herald-Sun
Terry Wallace

FOOTBALL hysteria is alive and well in 2007.

AFL footy is an amazing, media-driven game, and that's why it has become so popular with the masses and equally why those in the game are paid so well.

The adulation of success is unparalleled and the scrutiny and criticism of failure savage.

Never more than in the past few weeks have I been shocked and amazed by how some people in the media can change and misrepresent comments made and use them against you in times of vulnerability.

Even more startling is that there are so many media commentators and analysts who now comment on matters without any background knowledge or information.

On the eve of the 2007 season Richmond invited key media members to an information session, which outlined the performance and future direction of the club.

The meeting was a feel-good chat to give a greater understanding of the club's inner workings. I presented a list management study, which clearly defined the reasons for some of the club's difficulties during the past five years. This presentation set immediate, short term and long-term directions for the club.

In the past, clubs have been criticised for not being transparent enough. But as I found out, as soon as you are, some people with agendas use it against you.

The black hole

The presentation spoke about the missing generation at Tigerland, where we have very few players in the 22 to 26-year age bracket. When I started at Richmond more than two years ago we had an older age group of players and had started to develop our own young players for the future, rather than simply trading away picks for older, established players, so that we could build our own generation next. We now have 30 of 44 players under 24 years of age.

Immediate goals

Once we identified this black hole, we tried to fast-track young players to make the grade before our senior group was pensioned off.

Players such as Raines, Deledio, Tambling, Schulz, Tuck and Polo have been part of that rebuilding process, with other early draft selections maturing and developing at VFL level. Over two years we have seen improvement.

Everyone at the club plans and works as hard as possible to win every game each week.

Some in the media say our greatest downfall was that we improved a little quicker than perhaps we should have to take advantage of extra draft selections.

But we want to breed a culture of striving to win.

At that meeting it was stated there would be no guarantees on how quickly our younger players would develop and that their development would determine whether we held ground, lost ground or made ground in the short term.

Mid-term goals

What has not been reported is the club has always believed that with three to five years' development, our draftees would have enough games under their belt to support our core senior group in the next few years. This was clearly spelled out at the meeting, but never reported.

Because we lack players around the 100-game mark, we need to get games into some of our boys as quickly as possible, while still earning the right to wear the Richmond football jumper, not just be given charity games.

No doubt we will be judged over the next two years on whether the marriage flourishes with that senior and younger group. But, as senior coach, I understand this is what you live and die by in this environment.

Long-term goals

For some reason there was an hysterical reaction to our club having long-term plans. I would have thought that anyone who understands business would realise you need direction to achieve your goals. People must understand that AFL footy is also a business. What was projected at the meeting was that by 2011 the club's black hole would be disappearing.

The draft players of 2004 (Deledio, Pattison, Tambling, Polo) will have reached 24 years of age with Brett Deledio the youngest at 23.

With constant drafting since then, rather than trading selections away, we will have a continuity of ages and a core group of players who will have come through together in the correct age brackets.

I'm sure West Coast is doing this planning now, has been doing it for years and therefore has few "holes" on its list.

While getting the age brackets right, obviously each club is also working on the right balance of key position players, ruckmen and running players and trying to ensure it has enough talent.

Never, ever was there a statement that the club would not have success until 2011 -- but merely that the Tigers would have an even list for a decade and beyond from that time onwards.

The other factor I was bitterly disappointed about was the insinuation this grand plan was to keep me in a job for longer. At the meeting it was clearly spelled out that the entire club had the immediate, short term and long-term procedures in place so that we could all have clear direction for the future regardless of whether CEO Steven Wright, president Gary March, director of football Greg Miller or myself remained in our positions.

All at the club have been bitterly disappointed with our start to the season, as would the other three clubs who are in the same position.

This marathon season of ours ebbs and flows in some mysterious ways.

Last year Melbourne was 0-3 and then comfortably made the finals, while teams who appeared down and out last year, such as Essendon, Hawthorn, Carlton and the Brisbane Lions, have started the 2007 season with a surge.

So, as someone who has been in this pressure-cooker environment for some time, I can only deal with what I can control and get on with the business of planning for Friday night's game against the Western Bulldogs.

On a weekly basis I tell my players never to take their eyes off the ball, so in my role I cannot afford to hesitate or deviate from our plans.

________________________________________________________________________

Good on Terry for coming out and making a stance. The club is probably in the best shape i have seen it in (bar the 3 losses) and contrary to what Garry "Lyin" said in yesterdays HUN, we are ahead of Hawthorn. We are playing a more attacking brand of footy and i GUARANTEE our style will bring in more spectators in 3-5 years than Hawthorns brand.

We just need to mature a little more and sustain our intensity for 4 quarters. Once this occurs....WATCH OUT!!

 

[Harvey Leadpipe]

Good article.

Rate the way it has a backhanded swipe at Lyon the tw@t.

 

[PHX]

Nice Terry.

Has me nodding he is the right man for the job.

Pity Miller isnt.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

nice work plough. makes me want to keep the faith after all

 

[LVAK]

There's no doubting that media outlets are better spinners than politicians although you have to take into account that Terry is a spinner too.
As with deciphering all information you have to cross check to get to any real truth

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

Pity Miller isnt.

What is the deal with Miller being bagged so much???

Have i missed something? Did he not get Wallace to the club? Did he not join the Casey ticket to stop a bunch of morons taking control of the club?

I think some people here have short memories (unless of course i really have missed something....in that case, please inform me )

 

[PHX]

What is the deal with Miller being bagged so much???

Have i missed something? Did he not get Wallace to the club? Did he not join the Casey ticket to stop a bunch of morons taking control of the club?

I think some people here have short memories (unless of course i really have missed something....in that case, please inform me )

His recruiting early is what has caused this dip in form now, choosing recycled players over youth.

The ticket saga gave him complete power in his own job. Coincidence. I dunno.

He has a heart of blue and white.

 

[emperor]

While some of Terry's recent deceptions have been infuriating, I'm still glad we have him because long term planning has been a foreign concept to the Richmond Footy Club for many years.

Also I think it was plainly obvious to anyone with half a brain that Terry's 2011 comment was not an indication that we would be rubbish for the next 4 years, just an objective appraisal of our list development and when success would likely come. 2010/2011 is probably going to be 'go' time for clubs such as Hawthorn and Carlton as well, but of course their supporters wouldn't admit to that.

The only problem I had with his comments at the time was that it would make for great troll bait...and I haven't been proven wrong on that count

 

[1980]

Great article.

Great to have it acknlowedged that breeding a culture of striving to win is the priority.

Hopefully we'll get rid of those senior players that are too used to losing to change now

 

[PLSC]

atleast he is writing about his own club and not touching himself all over about the bulldogs

someone needs to tell him the 2004 draft is not enough

hartigan and jackson cant get a game
cleve and meyer are doing nothing
jon and casserly need more vfl time
connors/collins/edwards are still twigs
patto is not a ruckman atm
tuck/johnson are woeful
knobel/kingsley are pathetic

people in the media who were at the meeting at the start of the year said that 2007 was a straight line year meaning no improvement for us, thats all well and good but there are other clubs in the competition who ARE going to improve and thats why a bottom 4 finish was so obvious since the start of the season

 

[Jim Jess's Jockstrap]

sounds like damage control to me

 

[Grechy]

atleast he is writing about his own club and not touching himself all over about the bulldogs

someone needs to tell him the 2004 draft is not enough

hartigan and jackson cant get a game
cleve and meyer are doing nothing
jon and casserly need more vfl time
connors/collins/edwards are still twigs
patto is not a ruckman atm
tuck/johnson are woeful
knobel/kingsley are pathetic

people in the media who were at the meeting at the start of the year said that 2007 was a straight line year meaning no improvement for us, thats all well and good but there are other clubs in the competition who ARE going to improve and thats why a bottom 4 finish was so obvious since the start of the season

I have to agree here. That's a few players we're really struggling with at the moment. TW can talk about short, mid and long term as much as he wants and although I'm far from being a TW hater when you look at a few players on the list you're left with a big fat .

 

[I Rock]

I Rock's View On TW's 5 Year Richmond Plan:

Year 1:
DRAFTING: Thank God for the Spud he has put me in a great drafting position without having to take blame for the wooden spoon.

LIST: Get rid of the obvious dead wood.

GAMEPLAN: Put a few kids in, get the ball to Richo and Brown.

9 ROUNDS IN: This is going great 7-2 Brown on fire, just as I planned Terry you are the King.

AFTER ROUND 10: Bugger, don't panic Terry we still have some runs on the board. More wins than expected. Brown will be back next year.

ETC ETC

It would seem that Terry thought he could be competertive with the current list whilst introducing new blood each year, however injuries to key players and the ace up his sleeve in Brown not looking like he can get back to his week to week best. He has to know take stock and change up a little.

 

[cherryripe]

What's with all these bullcrap accounts being used for trolling? I've noticed quite a few of these recently.

 

[lids2004roar]

people in the media who were at the meeting at the start of the year said that 2007 was a straight line year meaning no improvement for us, thats all well and good but there are other clubs in the competition who ARE going to improve and thats why a bottom 4 finish was so obvious since the start of the season

So teams can only ever improve and nobody in the AFL is going to get worse?

 

[PLSC]

So teams can only ever improve and nobody in the AFL is going to get worse?

let me explain it to ya muppet

16th - 12th - 9th - straight line in 2007

teams like port and geelong were always going to go ahead of us but now its brisbane, carlton, essendon and the hawks who have got the jump early

the reason for the straight line is because guys like hartigan, moore and jackson are rubbish

 

[Calcium Man]

The draft players of 2004 (Deledio, Pattison, Tambling, Polo) will have reached 24 years of age with Brett Deledio the youngest at 23.

This worried me, no mention of Meyer

I presume its an editorial mistake.

 

[Calcium Man]

let me explain it to ya muppet

16th - 12th - 9th - straight line in 2007

teams like port and geelong were always going to go ahead of us but now its brisbane, carlton, essendon and the hawks who have got the jump early

the reason for the straight line is because guys like hartigan, moore and jackson are rubbish

These 4 teams were always going to go ahead. Go look at their drafting and rookie drafting between 1999-2003. We drafted a hell of a lot of crap and recycled players these teams drafted guys who are now 22-23-24 years old and can compete full time with afl players. They dont rely on 19 and 20 year olds they are just peripheral players.

In this period we have got tuck, raines, hyde, pettifer and coughlan.

 

[_RT_]

Seems a few people are coming around and realising that it is not onwards and upwards down at Punt Rd. Sure we all entered the 07 season thinking we would make a run at the Top 8 but deep down I think we all knew it was going to be tough and it has proven to be just that. I think the promising thing is we are starting to see less reliance on the older blokes and are starting to see just what the younger kids are going to bring to the table on a weekly basis. Deledio is starting to become a little more consistent in his impact on games but he is not going to dominate them in a way Judd would. Tambling showed last week a glimpse of what he will be like but expect more games with 5 possies and not much else over the next 19 weeks. Polo has not done much wrong but seems to have hit a snag in terms of developing further. Pattison is a 20 year old kid trying to play ruck against fully developed men.

I think Terry has taken the right course he has given those considered on the edge the chance first up to show they are worth sticking with. McGuane has shown he is worth it, Moore has not done much either way. I think he is now going to start having a look at a few of the younger kids like Edwards, King, JON, Casserly, Connors and see just what it is they bring to the table. I expect that there will be another clean out of 6-8 players at seasons end with another batch of youngsters coming through including rookie elevations like Howat and Graham.

I'll finish with this, is it going to be that painful to watch us develop over the next 2-3 years and maybe missing the finals if it means we will be enjoying a period of sustained success that was built right from the start instead of going the quick fix just to appease a few impatient fans and media.

 

[Frankston Rover]

Seems a few people are coming around and realising that it is not onwards and upwards down at Punt Rd. Sure we all entered the 07 season thinking we would make a run at the Top 8 but deep down I think we all knew it was going to be tough and it has proven to be just that. I think the promising thing is we are starting to see less reliance on the older blokes and are starting to see just what the younger kids are going to bring to the table on a weekly basis. Deledio is starting to become a little more consistent in his impact on games but he is not going to dominate them in a way Judd would. Tambling showed last week a glimpse of what he will be like but expect more games with 5 possies and not much else over the next 19 weeks. Polo has not done much wrong but seems to have hit a snag in terms of developing further. Pattison is a 20 year old kid trying to play ruck against fully developed men.

I think Terry has taken the right course he has given those considered on the edge the chance first up to show they are worth sticking with. McGuane has shown he is worth it, Moore has not done much either way. I think he is now going to start having a look at a few of the younger kids like Edwards, King, JON, Casserly, Connors and see just what it is they bring to the table. I expect that there will be another clean out of 6-8 players at seasons end with another batch of youngsters coming through including rookie elevations like Howat and Graham.

I'll finish with this, is it going to be that painful to watch us develop over the next 2-3 years and maybe missing the finals if it means we will be enjoying a period of sustained success that was built right from the start instead of going the quick fix just to appease a few impatient fans and media.

OK, firstly let me say that in no way is this a troll but given the recent articles about Richmond its been interesting reading here.

And given the rivalry of fans of both Richmond and Hawthorn on this site, it's forced my hand to reply to the above statement - and others.

The section highlighted in bold could very well have been written by a Hawthorn fan. In fact, I'm sure it has been - many, many times.

When Clarkson took over at Hawthorn, he was lambasted for getting rid of so many experienced players. We were tanking for draft picks, we were setting a losing culture, it was easy to cull players and draft youngsters etc, etc. Yet, Hawk fans have said all along, it will be worth the short term pain to see a sustained period of success - if we do it properly.

And now we see the exact same statement by a Richmond supporter?

Can you not see the irony of that?

Apparently Clarkson lacks vision and can not hold a candle to Wallace. Yet you now admit that the Clarkson philosphy is not only acceptable, Terry Wallace himself is now using it.

As for the Wallace article, it shows how uncomfortable he is now feeling. Clarkson has never resorted to this type of thing. He has steadfastly stuck to his plan without fanfare - and he has copped his fair share of flak for doing so. Wallace, if he is as good as he has us believe, does not need to explain his recruitment or his coaching. Supporters should be able to see this for themselves. But given Hawthorn jettisoned Mark Graham, only to see Richmond draft him must surely get Richmond fans asking, "Why"?

Hawthorn fans have taken great delight in watching our youngsters come on, we may have a few doubts about Clarkson's game day coaching but overall, we can claerly see the direction he has taken.

If Wallace needs full page articles to explain his decisions, then he has major problems. If he has done this merely to explain it to other clubs and media identities then he is doing it for the wrong reasons.

Finally, maybe Richmond supporters may admit that Terry's not the supercoach many make him out to be and maybe they could begrudgingly admit that Alistar Clarkson is not the brain dead midget many on here have portrayed him as.

 

[Loose Cannon]

OK, firstly let me say that in no way is this a troll but given the recent articles about Richmond its been interesting reading here.

And given the rivalry of fans of both Richmond and Hawthorn on this site, it's forced my hand to reply to the above statement - and others.

The section highlighted in bold could very well have been written by a Hawthorn fan. In fact, I'm sure it has been - many, many times.

When Clarkson took over at Hawthorn, he was lambasted for getting rid of so many experienced players. We were tanking for draft picks, we were setting a losing culture, it was easy to cull players and draft youngsters etc, etc. Yet, Hawk fans have said all along, it will be worth the short term pain to see a sustained period of success - if we do it properly.

And now we see the exact same statement by a Richmond supporter?

Can you not see the irony of that?

Apparently Clarkson lacks vision and can not hold a candle to Wallace. Yet you now admit that the Clarkson philosphy is not only acceptable, Terry Wallace himself is now using it.

As for the Wallace article, it shows how uncomfortable he is now feeling. Clarkson has never resorted to this type of thing. He has steadfastly stuck to his plan without fanfare - and he has copped his fair share of flak for doing so. Wallace, if he is as good as he has us believe, does not need to explain his recruitment or his coaching. Supporters should be able to see this for themselves. But given Hawthorn jettisoned Mark Graham, only to see Richmond draft him must surely get Richmond fans asking, "Why"?

Hawthorn fans have taken great delight in watching our youngsters come on, we may have a few doubts about Clarkson's game day coaching but overall, we can claerly see the direction he has taken.

If Wallace needs full page articles to explain his decisions, then he has major problems. If he has done this merely to explain it to other clubs and media identities then he is doing it for the wrong reasons.

Finally, maybe Richmond supporters may admit that Terry's not the supercoach many make him out to be and maybe they could begrudgingly admit that Alistar Clarkson is not the brain dead midget many on here have portrayed him as.

Richmond fans are notoriously hard to keep on board, hence many explanations are necessary! Long time between drinks for us Tiger fans!

IMO Clarkson did tank and deserves all the brickbats he recieved.

 

[_RT_]

OK, firstly let me say that in no way is this a troll but given the recent articles about Richmond its been interesting reading here.

And given the rivalry of fans of both Richmond and Hawthorn on this site, it's forced my hand to reply to the above statement - and others.

The section highlighted in bold could very well have been written by a Hawthorn fan. In fact, I'm sure it has been - many, many times.

When Clarkson took over at Hawthorn, he was lambasted for getting rid of so many experienced players. We were tanking for draft picks, we were setting a losing culture, it was easy to cull players and draft youngsters etc, etc. Yet, Hawk fans have said all along, it will be worth the short term pain to see a sustained period of success - if we do it properly.

And now we see the exact same statement by a Richmond supporter?

Can you not see the irony of that?

Apparently Clarkson lacks vision and can not hold a candle to Wallace. Yet you now admit that the Clarkson philosphy is not only acceptable, Terry Wallace himself is now using it.

As for the Wallace article, it shows how uncomfortable he is now feeling. Clarkson has never resorted to this type of thing. He has steadfastly stuck to his plan without fanfare - and he has copped his fair share of flak for doing so. Wallace, if he is as good as he has us believe, does not need to explain his recruitment or his coaching. Supporters should be able to see this for themselves. But given Hawthorn jettisoned Mark Graham, only to see Richmond draft him must surely get Richmond fans asking, "Why"?

Hawthorn fans have taken great delight in watching our youngsters come on, we may have a few doubts about Clarkson's game day coaching but overall, we can claerly see the direction he has taken.

If Wallace needs full page articles to explain his decisions, then he has major problems. If he has done this merely to explain it to other clubs and media identities then he is doing it for the wrong reasons.

Finally, maybe Richmond supporters may admit that Terry's not the supercoach many make him out to be and maybe they could begrudgingly admit that Alistar Clarkson is not the brain dead midget many on here have portrayed him as.

My response to that is I don't see Wallace following Clarkson and trading or delisting all our older players. The way it comes across is Wallace wants to develop the kids but also wants to have them winning more often than 5-8 games a year or experiencing long losing streaks. That is part of his developing a winning culture the kids get used to winning and thus want to do it more often. The issue with that is it will give some supporters false hope. They think the side is further along than it actually is and when losses start to mount up they question why we won 11 games last year and should be getting better not getting worse.

Perhaps some Hawks fans are now starting to be guilty of the same. Won 2/3 and are looking good at present but how many of them will be questioning if the club repeats last year and now goes onto to win 3 of 15 before coming home with a late rush again.

 

[Calcium Man]

The section highlighted in bold could very well have been written by a Hawthorn fan. In fact, I'm sure it has been - many, many times.

When Clarkson took over at Hawthorn, he was lambasted for getting rid of so many experienced players. We were tanking for draft picks, we were setting a losing culture, it was easy to cull players and draft youngsters etc, etc. Yet, Hawk fans have said all along, it will be worth the short term pain to see a sustained period of success - if we do it properly.

And now we see the exact same statement by a Richmond supporter?

Can you not see the irony of that?

There is a difference Hawthorn had very few quality older guys. But they did have quite a few younger kids who were 20-22 and are stepping up. Hodge, Croad, Bateman, Clarke, Mitchell, Campbell, Osbourne, Williams, Brown, Boyle, sewell and ladson. These players are now in your vital age group between 23-27. You've also added Gilham, Gurrera and Jacobs.

Whereas the Tigers had some very good older players. Brown, Richo, Bowden Johnson, Simmonds and Gasper. But very little quality youth underneath. Pettifer, Coughlan, Tuck, Hyde and Newman.

Apparently Clarkson lacks vision and can not hold a candle to Wallace. Yet you now admit that the Clarkson philosphy is not only acceptable, Terry Wallace himself is now using it.

Terry has used much the same philosophy as clarkson. Draft Kids. The only difference is that our kids start at the 2004 draft not 2000 draft like your kids. Maybe he hasnt played them as much but once again that is a result of far better older guys.

Supporters should be able to see this for themselves. But given Hawthorn jettisoned Mark Graham, only to see Richmond draft him must surely get Richmond fans asking, "Why"?

Mark gave us one very good year of service, he provided some experience back there. There is not point to asking why. We needed somebody to help out in the backline.

If Wallace needs full page articles to explain his decisions, then he has major problems. If he has done this merely to explain it to other clubs and media identities then he is doing it for the wrong reasons.

Finally, maybe Richmond supporters may admit that Terry's not the supercoach many make him out to be and maybe they could begrudgingly admit that Alistar Clarkson is not the brain dead midget many on here have portrayed him as.

Wallace does it because he understands our supporters. Just read some of the crap posted on this forum. We expect results even when we have a crap team. Even when it is clear that we have massive holes in our list. He needs to spell it out for supporters who get suckered into the crap that other journalist write like Gary Lyon.

As for clarkson i have no doubt he is the worst gameday coach in the league. But he has done well to turn your list over. Just needs to realise maybe he isnt a coach but a football director.