What I don't get about Collingwood

[Geelong_Sicko]

Round 9, 2008. You blokes set a record for tackling, I believe. You made Geelong look like a club tanking for the wooden spoon. You showed you had plenty of matchwinners to put on the park.

Even allowing for the change of gameplan to suit different opposition, what's wrong with playing like that every week?

I don't get it.

 

[DWil6]

Round 9, 2008. You blokes set a record for tackling, I believe. You made Geelong look like a club tanking for the wooden spoon. You showed you had plenty of matchwinners to put on the park.

Even allowing for the change of gameplan to suit different opposition, what's wrong with playing like that every week?

I don't get it.

Welcome to my life. We have overtaken St Kilda as the most frustrating team to barrack for!

 

[MagpieGirl_13]

When I know, I'll let you know.

 

[hellfire]

We wonder the same thing.

It infuriates me. Get us some midfielders ASAP.

 

[OniAu]

i still think we heavily rely on our younger players too much to carry too much of the load.

we dont have enough mid tier aged players to put in the consistent performances every week. the ones we do have johnson fraser shaw and leon dont lift at key times in games to pull our younger kids over the line.

 

[Catsace]

I fully agree with Geelong Sicko's conundrum...but i guess most Pies fans are equally befuddled.

Simply put, Geelong has really not seen anything less than Collingwood's 'A' game for several years. Sydney can say the same thing. I'm trying to think of the last time Geelong has played Collingwood at a time when it could be argued they were 'ordinary' on the day. Even in 2005, when Geelong were at one stage 7-3 on the ladder and the Pies something like 2-8, your side beat us by 24 points at the 'G' in a night game. That in a year the Pies finished with just 5 wins or something!

Yet Carlton, Brisbane, Essendon, and last year Richmond and Melbourne, teams that Geelong beat on their ear, seem to just rise up and show levels of skill that we know that the Pies prevent Geelong from displaying, with their pressure they always show against us. I mean, all the comments about Ben Johnson, Shaw, Swan etc, well against Geelong these players all kicked goals, Nick Maxwell, another maligned player, is always hard and tough against the Cats. The output is there, the players must know they can do that, but how can there be such a discreptancy between performances?

You would think that the confidence gained by towelling Sydney and Geelong would almost free up the Pies players, giving them a belief they can do it against anyone. It's almost like reverse psychology though, it's almost like....Gee, did we really do that??

I just am scratching my head trying to work out how a side who can't beat the Blues, a team Geelong have beaten by 10 goals every time in the last 4 years, can massacre us in a way nobody has done since our inglorious 2006?!?!

 

[cakewalk_1]

I just am scratching my head trying to work out how a side who can't beat the Blues, a team Geelong have beaten by 10 goals every time in the last 4 years, can massacre us in a way nobody has done since our inglorious 2006?!?![/quote]

Good post. Well said, one of best I've seen for a while.

Like many others who have posted a reply, Welcome to our frustration.
I'll trade you that win this year for the 2 against Carlton & Nth and the 1 against Bris. Oh an throw in the Ess game as well.

 

[kevind]

Round 9, 2008. You blokes set a record for tackling, I believe. You made Geelong look like a club tanking for the wooden spoon. You showed you had plenty of matchwinners to put on the park.

Even allowing for the change of gameplan to suit different opposition, what's wrong with playing like that every week?

I don't get it.

It helps when the Cats play several injured players in the one game and combine that with a bad dose of the flu that swept through the club that week. Unfortunately for us, Round 9 2008 does not happen every week for us. The more our supporters hang onto this one off game the more deluded they become.

 

[Catsace]

I just am scratching my head trying to work out how a side who can't beat the Blues, a team Geelong have beaten by 10 goals every time in the last 4 years, can massacre us in a way nobody has done since our inglorious 2006?!?!

Good post. Well said, one of best I've seen for a while.

Like many others who have posted a reply, Welcome to our frustration.
I'll trade you that win this year for the 2 against Carlton & Nth and the 1 against Bris. Oh an throw in the Ess game as well.[/quote]

That's a fair swap....we'd be on 20 in a row if that were the case!!

Maybe as has been mentioned earlier, some of your best players are also your youngest (Thomas, Cloke, Pendlebury) in terms of skill, and when they get to 24-25 there may be more consistent. Until then, us at Geelong have to always look with trepidation to see what Collingwood side turns up to play us!

 

[Johnson#26]

Mate, we have no idea, either.

Probably never will.

 

[Rgs011]

Collingwood have the ability to do this on an all too frequent occasion. We rise to meet the top sides, show we can match them, then drop the easier games that we should win.

Is this down to the players mindset? Today we looked as if we were coasting, then Essendon got 5 goals up, and we decided to play. We get to within 2 pts, then coast again...almost assuming, we don't need lift for this game.

This year I believe we only really been beaten twice (Hawks and 1st Carlton defeats), in our other losses...we've just not bothered to play at the level we should!

This as a Collingwood supporter, frustrates the fcuk out of me!

Collingwood are like a box of chocolates....

 

[PieLebo87]

You would think that the confidence gained by towelling Sydney and Geelong would almost free up the Pies players, giving them a belief they can do it against anyone. It's almost like reverse psychology though, it's almost like....Gee, did we really do that??

This actually seems to be the downfall of the Magpies. When they go in as underdogs, they will push themselves more and harrass and punish, yet when they're being hunted and lesser sides like the Blues, Dons and Tiges put pressure on the 'favourites', the Pies just go into a stagnation and really lower their level. We just don't see the harrassment, pressure and intensity that we see against the likes of the Swans and Cats, who are obviously better sides in the AFL.

It is a real issue that needs to be resolved because it cost us top 4 last year, and seems to have cost us top 4 this season, after today's abysmal effort.

I, for one, do not want to wait for it to cost us a Premiership.

EDIT - ....If not already.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Round 9, 2008. You blokes set a record for tackling, I believe. You made Geelong look like a club tanking for the wooden spoon. You showed you had plenty of matchwinners to put on the park.

Even allowing for the change of gameplan to suit different opposition, what's wrong with playing like that every week?

I don't get it.

Its impossible to play at that level every week. We just arent good enough.

 

[Dave The Man]

Round 9, 2008. You blokes set a record for tackling, I believe. You made Geelong look like a club tanking for the wooden spoon. You showed you had plenty of matchwinners to put on the park.

Even allowing for the change of gameplan to suit different opposition, what's wrong with playing like that every week?

I don't get it.

Same as every Fan.


In just don't get it Either

 

[goalpie]

Weak in the head and heart. Plus crap coach who is still in the 90's.

 

[lyfsux]

It helps when the Cats play several injured players in the one game and combine that with a bad dose of the flu that swept through the club that week. Unfortunately for us, Round 9 2008 does not happen every week for us. The more our supporters hang onto this one off game the more deluded they become.

I agree everybody does hang on that but its not only the supporters the commentators say the same thing every time we loose

 

[MagpieScouser]

we are the ones who are carrying handbags at the moment

 

[Thommo 42]

In 2005, 2 of our 5 wins were against Sydney and West Coast - the grand finalists....

We also beat the Cats that year, giving us wins gainst 3 of the Top 5...

We just can't punish shit teams, and its a class issue. If you don't have those elite players you can turn to when you're a bit off, then you'e going to get done

 

[Teh_Nub]

In 2005, 2 of our 5 wins were against Sydney and West Coast - the grand finalists....

We also beat the Cats that year, giving us wins gainst 3 of the Top 5...

We just can't punish shit teams, and its a class issue. If you don't have those elite players you can turn to when you're a bit off, then you'e going to get done

We can and we have, West Coast this year by 100 points, Essendon by 73 and Richmond by 44.

I think we do go well when we are underdogs but so do a lot of teams, idk if its the coaching, the leadership, the playing group or who are inconsistent with their performance, obviously it'd be a combination but we need to sort it out.

Obviously we can't be playing like we did against Geelong every week but we need to be more consistent and realise there are no easy games.

 

[Art Corvelay]

Too many passengers in the 'easy' games, like the boys just expect to win because they are the better side on paper.

 

[HFF]

goalpie, in reference to Dawes' accurate kicking, is the Chris Dawes you are talking about the same Chris Dawes that has yet to play a single AFL match and being compared to a Copeland Trophy winner and the most important player in our side?

 

[Goo]

The frustrating thing - and I'm guessing/hoping that a lot of geelong supporters feel the same way - is that everything seemed in place for another huge finals game between our two clubs - be it a qualifying, a prelim.. or a grand final. I think we all know what kinda game we would be in for if that happened. It would be on like donkey kong!

Unfortunately it seems likely we cant keep up our end of that unwritten deal.