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Today's Australian leads its sport's news with a Greg Denham article on the possibility of Carlton trading Whitnall to the Saints for their first two picks which could be partly used along with its No. 9 draft selection to pick up Ottens from the Tigers.
Apart from Carlton trading away its 1st pick AGAIN, I am not that happy with this prospect because IMHO on both player's present form we would be swapping one out of form big forward dud for a slightly more mobile ruckman/forward but equally out of form dud and giving up the chance of picking up a promising top 10 pick young gun.
Any thoughts??
Saints set to shock by taking Whitnall as Roos trump rivals
Greg Denham
October 06, 2004
ST KILDA could spring the biggest surprise of this year's player-exchange period by securing Carlton key-position player Lance Whitnall.
If Whitnall is traded to the Saints, Carlton could come out of left field to put itself in a position to hijack a trade deal with Richmond for Brad Ottens.
And the Kangaroos yesterday trumped several clubs to attract Hawthorn ruckman/forward Nathan Thompson by swapping their first- and second-round national draft selections to the Hawks.
Whitnall, 25, is under contract at Carlton next year for about $550,000, but after a disappointing season marred by injury and poor form, the club is prepared to let him go.
The Saints first spoke to Whitnall on Monday night and its interest in him was confirmed yesterday by his manager Ricky Nixon.
With the centre half-forward keen to move on, negotiations will continue today between Carlton and St Kilda. The Saints could offer Carlton its first pick in the draft, at No.17 overall.
It is understood the Blues are prepared to pay a chunk of Whitnall's 2005 remuneration, just as they subsidised Corey McKernan's move to the Kangaroos this year and next.
Whitnall played 19 games this year for a career total of 157 and has kicked 290 goals.
Carlton could be in possession of two first-round selections, No.9 and No.17, which could leave it best placed to satisfy Richmond's minimum requirement to trade ruckman Ottens.
Richmond confirmed yesterday it would trade Ottens to Carlton for its picks despite Ottens' preference to be traded to either Sydney or Geelong.
Neither the Swans nor the Cats have been able to satisfy the Tigers by trading into a selection from another club inside the top 10.
After 119 games with Hawthorn, Thompson will play for the Kangaroos next season after the Hawks accepted selections 10 and 26 from the Roos.
And the 26-year-old could also be joined at Arden Street by team-mate Angelo Lekkas, who was runner-up to Shane Crawford in the club's best-and-fairest award last year.
The two clubs are working through a deal that involves the Roos parting with a second-round pick for the midfielder.
Thompson, a vice-captain at Glenferrie Oval for two years, said in May he contemplated retirement several times because of clinical depression over several years which was only diagnosed in April.
Kangaroos coach Dean Laidley said Thompson had indicated last month that his priority was to join the Roos. "We targeted and chased him hard because it's always better when the player wants to come to you," Laidley said.
"He can play in the ruck and up forward and it allows us to play Leigh Brown down back."
West Coast's already powerful midfield was given a further boost yesterday by the addition of Adelaide's Tyson Stenglein, who was recruited by the Crows from Subiaco.
In the three-club deal, Adelaide recruited Scott Thompson from Melbourne and secured West Coast's second-round selection (28), while Melbourne accepted the Eagles' first-round choice (12).
Thompson and Stenglein had requested their clubs to orchestrate trades that would allow them to return home.
The Demons are also well down the track with West Coast in negotiations to pick up tall, 20-year-old Eagles forward Paul Johnson for selection No.29.
Port Adelaide's Josh Carr remains in limbo following the club's rejection yesterday of Fremantle's initial offer of a mid-range player and its first and second-round draft selections.
The Dockers are continuing negotiations with St Kilda for midfielder Heath Black, while out-of-contract Fremantle ruckman Troy Simmonds appears set to join Richmond, his third AFL club.
Collingwood has fielded interest from Sydney and Hawthorn over midfielder Shane O'Bree who is contracted to the Magpies for another season.
The Collingwood club is showing keen interest in West Coast defender Chad Morrison, who is keen to return to Melbourne.
Brisbane's Aaron Shattock, who played in the 2002 premiership but missed most of this year because of injury, is keen to return home to Adelaide to join either the Crows or Port Adelaide.
Apart from Carlton trading away its 1st pick AGAIN, I am not that happy with this prospect because IMHO on both player's present form we would be swapping one out of form big forward dud for a slightly more mobile ruckman/forward but equally out of form dud and giving up the chance of picking up a promising top 10 pick young gun.
Any thoughts??
Saints set to shock by taking Whitnall as Roos trump rivals
Greg Denham
October 06, 2004
ST KILDA could spring the biggest surprise of this year's player-exchange period by securing Carlton key-position player Lance Whitnall.
If Whitnall is traded to the Saints, Carlton could come out of left field to put itself in a position to hijack a trade deal with Richmond for Brad Ottens.
And the Kangaroos yesterday trumped several clubs to attract Hawthorn ruckman/forward Nathan Thompson by swapping their first- and second-round national draft selections to the Hawks.
Whitnall, 25, is under contract at Carlton next year for about $550,000, but after a disappointing season marred by injury and poor form, the club is prepared to let him go.
The Saints first spoke to Whitnall on Monday night and its interest in him was confirmed yesterday by his manager Ricky Nixon.
With the centre half-forward keen to move on, negotiations will continue today between Carlton and St Kilda. The Saints could offer Carlton its first pick in the draft, at No.17 overall.
It is understood the Blues are prepared to pay a chunk of Whitnall's 2005 remuneration, just as they subsidised Corey McKernan's move to the Kangaroos this year and next.
Whitnall played 19 games this year for a career total of 157 and has kicked 290 goals.
Carlton could be in possession of two first-round selections, No.9 and No.17, which could leave it best placed to satisfy Richmond's minimum requirement to trade ruckman Ottens.
Richmond confirmed yesterday it would trade Ottens to Carlton for its picks despite Ottens' preference to be traded to either Sydney or Geelong.
Neither the Swans nor the Cats have been able to satisfy the Tigers by trading into a selection from another club inside the top 10.
After 119 games with Hawthorn, Thompson will play for the Kangaroos next season after the Hawks accepted selections 10 and 26 from the Roos.
And the 26-year-old could also be joined at Arden Street by team-mate Angelo Lekkas, who was runner-up to Shane Crawford in the club's best-and-fairest award last year.
The two clubs are working through a deal that involves the Roos parting with a second-round pick for the midfielder.
Thompson, a vice-captain at Glenferrie Oval for two years, said in May he contemplated retirement several times because of clinical depression over several years which was only diagnosed in April.
Kangaroos coach Dean Laidley said Thompson had indicated last month that his priority was to join the Roos. "We targeted and chased him hard because it's always better when the player wants to come to you," Laidley said.
"He can play in the ruck and up forward and it allows us to play Leigh Brown down back."
West Coast's already powerful midfield was given a further boost yesterday by the addition of Adelaide's Tyson Stenglein, who was recruited by the Crows from Subiaco.
In the three-club deal, Adelaide recruited Scott Thompson from Melbourne and secured West Coast's second-round selection (28), while Melbourne accepted the Eagles' first-round choice (12).
Thompson and Stenglein had requested their clubs to orchestrate trades that would allow them to return home.
The Demons are also well down the track with West Coast in negotiations to pick up tall, 20-year-old Eagles forward Paul Johnson for selection No.29.
Port Adelaide's Josh Carr remains in limbo following the club's rejection yesterday of Fremantle's initial offer of a mid-range player and its first and second-round draft selections.
The Dockers are continuing negotiations with St Kilda for midfielder Heath Black, while out-of-contract Fremantle ruckman Troy Simmonds appears set to join Richmond, his third AFL club.
Collingwood has fielded interest from Sydney and Hawthorn over midfielder Shane O'Bree who is contracted to the Magpies for another season.
The Collingwood club is showing keen interest in West Coast defender Chad Morrison, who is keen to return to Melbourne.
Brisbane's Aaron Shattock, who played in the 2002 premiership but missed most of this year because of injury, is keen to return home to Adelaide to join either the Crows or Port Adelaide.
