X_box_X's greatest 50 players since 2000

[Lemma]

Haha Twiggers is hotter than JLo anyway

 

[X_box_X]

Haha Twiggers is hotter than JLo anyway

Now, yes. But JLO of 10-15 years ago. No chance.

 

[SterlingArcher]

Yeah, if we're talking about consistency of elite football, one of these things is not like the other.

I'm happy for you to say that Tredrea didn't play 11 elite seasons and because of injury, you're absolutely right.

But then to list Brown and his 2 AA guernseys and maybe 3 years of genuine elite CHF play ahead of him based on longevity and consistency over the timeframe?

Nope.

Yeah fair enough, that's probably true enough for Brown.

As for the others, I don't think Tredreas few seasons where he reached heights the others didn't doesn't outweigh the up to 100+ games more they've played this century.

Subjective though.

 

[SterlingArcher]

Matt Priddis no.1

 

[X_box_X]

I could easily put him number one after he won $3000 for me on Brownlow night.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

So who will be number 1?

Gary Ablett Jnr or Luke McGuane

 

[Lemma]

I think you're forgetting Kayne Pettifer. Mid 2000s were his best years

 

[Engimal]

Liam Anthony a smokey for the top spot?

 

[kade]

Simon Crawshay?

 

[X_box_X]

1
Gary Ablett: Geelong, Gold Coast *
268 games, 358 goals, 209 Brownlow votes (0.78 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 2 (2007, 2009)
Brownlow Medal: 2 (2009, 2013)
All Australian: 8 (2007-2014)
Best and Fairest: 5 (2007, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013)
League MVP: 5 (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013)
If you've just been introduced to our great game of Australian Rules Football and you have never watched a game, let alone Gary Ablett, I will try to explain why he is my number one player, and why comedian Alex Williamson wants to boof him.

First of all, you're probably wondering what the above achievements mean. Allow me to explain it to you. First of all, Gary does his best work in the midfield. He is the league's best player, and has been the league's best player for the best part of eight years. They say if a midfielder is kicking two goals in every three games, that is breaking even. Well Ablett does much better than that, kicking four goals in every three games.

He has won the competition's elite prize on two occasions, the Holy Grail of the premiership that every player and team strives for. It's the equivalent to the World Series, the Stanley Cup, the English Premierleague title, a world title in boxing, or a gold medal at the Olympics.

He has won the competition's most prestigious individual prize, the Brownlow Medal, on two occasions. This is equal to winning two Oscars, two Nobel Prizes, or two FIFA's Golden Ball awards. Out of 700+ colleagues to compete against every season, Gary has come out on top on two occasions, and has finished second and third in the award too.

He has been selected as an All Australian eight times, all in consecutive years. That's equal to being selected in the NBA First Team eight years in a row, or the EPL Team of the Year eight years in a row, or sleeping with each of the 86 contestants from the Miss Universe pageant.

He has been awarded with his club's Best and Fairest Award on five occasions, which is similar to being Employee of the Month five times in a year and getting to shag Jessica Simpson each time as your reward.

He has been honoured with the most meaningful individual award on five occasions, that is being voted by his peers as the League's Most Valuable Player. To put that amazing achievement into perspective, no other player in the history of the award has won more than twice. That's a more incredible achievement than Michael Phelps' 18 Olympic Gold Medals, Margaret Court's 24 Tennis Grand Slams, Jack Nicklaus' 18 Golf Grand Slams and Victor Peirce being acquitted for the 1988 Walsh Street killings of Victoria Police Constables Steven Tynan and Damian Eyre.

I'd honestly like to thank Gary for making my decision to select a captain in Dream Team every week so easy. He's so good that I decided to shave my head to be just like him. Unfortunately I don't have his strength, balance, vision, smarts, skill, talent, explosiveness, composure, fitness, evasiveness, leadership, match winning ability and commitment, so that plan of trying to emulate him didn't quite work out.

Gary averages 25.02 disposals, 3.23 marks, 4.24 tackles, 4.47 forward fifty entries, 4.28 clearances, 1.37 running bounces and 0.78 goal assists. Those stats are good, but don't do Gary justice. Those stats include seasons 2002-2006, when he wasn't even considered to be in the league's best 100 players, let alone the league's best player. His stats since 2007 read: 168 games, 30.89 disposals, 3.61 marks, 4.7 tackles, 5.11 forward fifty entries, 5.63 clearances, 1.71 running bounces and 0.82 goal assists. To record those averages over 168 games in eight consecutive seasons is simply phenomenal. Include his 1.32 goals per game average in that period, and it's not hard to see why Alex Williamson wants to boof him.

It's actually scary to think he is getting better with age, despite being 30. Even though he didn't win any individual honours apart from an All Australian selection in 2014, you have to remember he only played fifteen games. Had Gary not been injured, he would have won his third Brownlow Medal, sixth Best and Fairest and most likely his sixth League MVP. He averaged 32.07 disposals, 1.6 goals, 6.07 tackles, 5.13 forward fifty entries and unbelievable career high averages of 7.87 clearances and 1.27 goal assists.

I'm looking forward to seeing Gary make a full recovery from his shoulder injury and dominating the competition like Gisele Bundchen dominates the Cat Walk.

 

[Engimal]

Controversial #1...

 

[Flandersss]

Great list, good to see Riewoldt @ 4 ahead of Brown, Pavlich, Tredrea etc

Love Lenny @ 10 aswell!

Just think Milne is very stiff to miss out on the top 50.

Career Summary:

2x 60+ goal seasons
4x 50+ goal seasons
2x 40+ goal seasons
1x 30+ goal season
4x 20+ goal seasons

8 years of 40+ goals per year for a forward pocket player is more than serviceable IMO.

 

[Lemma]

Yeh Milne was unlucky, but like all these things....who do you drop?

 

[Flandersss]

Yeh Milne was unlucky, but like all these things....who do you drop?

Josh Kennedy from the Swans IMO. He hasn't had a decade long dominance ala Milne.

 

[bjgoddard18]

Yeh Milne was unlucky, but like all these things....who do you drop?

I'd also say as good as Kirk was Milne displayed more dominance over his career span

 

[Lemma]

I like Grimley, glad to someone giving him another go

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Great work X_box_X , very good effort. Any chance of getting a complete list of the final order?

 

[X_box_X]

Gary Ablett: Geelong, Gold Coast *
268 games, 358 goals, 209 Brownlow votes (0.78 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 2 (2007, 2009)
Brownlow Medal: 2 (2009, 2013)
All Australian: 8 (2007-2014)
Best and Fairest: 5 (2007, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013)
League MVP: 5 (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013)

Chris Judd: West Coast, Carlton *
271 games, 224 goals, 209 Brownlow votes (0.77 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 1 (2006)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2005)
Brownlow Medal: 2 (2004, 2010)
League MVP: 2 (2006, 2011)
All Australian: 6 (2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)
Best and Fairest: 5 (2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010)

Adam Goodes: Sydney *
331 games, 420 goals, 162 Brownlow votes (0.50 per game)
Position: Utility
Premiership: 2 (2005, 2012)
Brownlow Medal: 2 (2003, 2006)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2003, 2006, 2011)
All Australian: 4 (2003, 2006, 2009, 2011)

Nick Riewoldt: St. Kilda *
281 games, 619 goals, 124 Brownlow votes (0.47 per game)
Position: Centre Half Forward
Best and Fairest: 6 (2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2014)
All Australian: 5 (2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2014)
League MVP: 1 (2004)
Rising Star: 2002

Lance Franklin: Hawthorn, Sydney *
204 games, 659 goals, 104 Brownlow votes (0.51 per game)
Position: Centre Half Forward, Full Forward
Premiership: 2 (2008, 2013)
Coleman Medal: 3 (2008, 2011, 2014)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2008)
All Australian: 5 (2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014)
_______

Michael Voss: Brisbane
161 games, 137 goals, 94 Brownlow votes (0.58 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
League MVP: 2 (2002, 2003)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2000, 2001, 2003)
All Australian: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
League Best Captain: 4 (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)

Simon Black: Brisbane.
291 games, 150 goals, 175 Brownlow votes (0.60 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2003)
Brownlow Medal: 1 (2002)
Best and Fairests: 3 (2001, 2002, 2006)
All Australian: 3 (2001, 2002, 2004)

Jonathan Brown: Brisbane
256 games, 594 goals, 112 Brownlow votes (0.44 per game)
Position: Centre Half Forward, Full Forward
Premiership: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
Coleman Medal: 1 (2007)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2007, 2008, 2009)
All Australian: 2 (2007, 2009)
Most Courageous: 3 (2007, 2008, 2011)

Matthew Pavlich: Fremantle *
313 games, 629 goals, 122 Brownlow votes (0.39 per game)
Position: Full Forward
All Australian: 6 (2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
Best and Fairest: 6 (2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011)

Lenny Hayes: St. Kilda
281 games, 90 goals, 129 Brownlow votes (0.46 per game)
Position: Midfield
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2010)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2003, 2010, 2012)
All Australian: 3 (2003, 2005, 2009)
______

Luke Hodge: Hawthorn *
250 games, 167 goals, 115 Brownlow votes (0.46 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Back Flank
Premiership: 3 (2008, 2013, 2014)
Norm Smith Medal: 2 (2008, 2014)
Best and Fairest: 2 (2005, 2010)
All Australian: 3 (2005, 2008, 2010)

Brent Harvey: North Melbourne *
320 games, 392 goals, 173 Brownlow votes (0.54 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Forward Flank
All Australian: 4 (2000, 2005, 2007, 2008)
Best and Fairest: 5 (2003, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010)

James Hird: Essendon
143 games, 156 goals, 78 Brownlow votes (0.54 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Forward Flank
Premiership: 1 (2000)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2000)
Best and Fairest: 2 (2003, 2007)
All Australian: 3 (2000, 2001, 2003)

Nathan Buckley: Collingwood
138 games, 140 goals, 82 Brownlow votes (0.59 per game)
Position: Midfield
Best and Fairest: 2 (2000, 2003)
All Australian: 3 (2000, 2001, 2003)
Brownlow Medal: 1 (2003)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2002)
AFLPA MVP: 1 (2003)

Andrew McLeod: Adelaide
239 games, 177 goals, 124 Brownlow votes (0.52 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Back Flank
Honours:
Best and Fairest: (2) 2001, 2007
League MVP: (1) 2001
All Australian: (4) 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007
______

Ben Cousins: West Coast, Richmond
187 games, 127 goals, 112 Brownlow votes (0.60 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 1 (2006)
Brownlow Medal: 1 (2005)
AFL MVP: 1 (2005)
Best and Fairest: 4 (2001, 2002, 2003, 2005)
All Australian: 4 (2001, 2002, 2005, 2006)

Warren Tredrea: Port Adelaide
217 games, 476 goals, 69 Brownlow votes
Position: Centre Half Forward
Premiership: 1 (2004)
Best and Fairest: 4 (2001, 2004, 2005, 2009)
All Australian: 4 (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)

Matthew Scarlett: Geelong
278 games, 17 goals, 31 Brownlow votes
Position: Full Back
Premiership: 3 (2007, 2009, 2011)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2003)
All Australian: 6 (2003, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011)

Scott Pendlebury: Collingwood
192 games, 126 goals, 118 Brownlow votes (0.61 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 1 (2010)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2010)
All Australian: 5 (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2011, 2013, 2014)
AFLPA MVP: 1 (2013)

Barry Hall: St. Kilda, Sydney, Bulldogs
237 games, 683 goals, 83 Brownlow votes (0.35 per game)
Position: Centre Half Forward, Full Forward)
Premiership: 1 (2005)
All Australian: 4 (2004, 2005, 2006, 2010)
AFLCA Champion of the Year: 1 (2005)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2004)
______

Joel Selwood: Geelong *
184 games, 115 goals, 137 Brownlow votes (0.74 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 3 (2007, 2009, 2011)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2010, 2013, 2014)
All Australian: 4 (2009, 2010, 2013 (Captain), 2014 (Captain)
AFLPA Best Captain: 1 (2013)
Rising Star: 2007
AFLPA Best First Year Player: 2007

Dean Cox: West Coast
290 games, 169 goals, 71 Brownlow votes
Position: Ruckman
Premiership: 1 (2006)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2008)
All Australian: 6 (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2012)

Mark Ricciuto: Adelaide
163 games, 200 goals, 96 Brownlow votes (0.59 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Forward Flank
All Australian: (5) 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005
Best and Fairest: (2) 2003, 2004
Brownlow Medal: (1) 2003

Sam Mitchell: Hawthorn *
261 gams, 61 goals, 178 Brownlow votes (0.68 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 3 (2008, 2013, 2014)
Best and Fairest: 4 (2006, 2009, 2011, 2012)
All Australian: 2 (2011, 2013)
Rising Star Award: 2003

Matthew Lloyd: Essendon
189 games, 681 goals, 73 Brownlow votes (0.38 per game)
Position: Full Forward
Premiership: 1 (2000)
Coleman Medal: 3 (2000, 2001, 2003)
All Australian: 3 (2000, 2001, 2003)
______

Brad Johnson: Western Bulldogs
240 games, 467 goals, 61 Brownlow votes
Position: Midfield, Full Forward
Best and Fairest: 2 (2002, 2006)
All Australian: 5 (2000, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007)

Jason Akermanis: Brisbane, Bulldogs
229 games, 329 goals, 87 Brownlow votes (0.38 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Forward Flank
Premiership: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
Brownlow Medal: 1 (2001)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2005)
All Australian: 3 (2001, 2002, 2004)

Dane Swan: Collingwood
236 games, 190 goals, 169 Brownlow votes (0.72 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 1 (2010)
Brownlow Medal: 1 (2011)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2008, 2009, 2010)
League MVP: 1 (2010)
All Australian: 5 (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013)
AFLPA MVP: 1 (2010)

Paul Chapman: Geelong, Essendon *
271 games, 358 goals, 86 Brownlow votes (0.32 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Forward Flank
Premiership: 3 (2007, 2009, 2011)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2009)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2006)
All Australian: 2 (2009, 2010)

Jobe Watson: Essendon *
188 games, 105 goals, 106 Brownlow votes (0.56 per game)
Position: Midfield
Brownlow Medal: 1 (2012)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2009, 2010, 2012)
All Australian: 2 (2012, 2013)
______

Jimmy Bartel: Geelong *
272 games, 191 goals, 114 Brownlow votes (0.42 per game)
Position: Utility
Premiership: 3 (2007, 2009, 2011)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2011)
Brownlow Medal: 1 (2007)
All Australian: 2 (2007, 2008)

Darren Glass: West Coast
270 games, 8 goals, 12 Brownlow votes
Position: Full Back
Premiership: 1 (2006)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2007, 2009, 2011)
All Australian: 4 (2006, 2007, 2011, 2012)

Steve Johnson: Geelong *
233 games, 422 goals, 106 Brownlow votes (0.45 per game)
Position: Midfield, Half Forward Flank
Premiership: 3 (2007, 2009, 2011)
Norm Smith Medal: 1 (2007)
All Australian: 3 (2007, 2008, 2010)

Brendon Goddard: St. Kilda, Essendon *
247 games, 139 goals, 74 Brownlow votes (0.32 per game)
Position: Utility
Best and Fairest: 1 (2013)
All Australian: 2 (2009, 2010)

Corey Enright: Geelong *
288 games, 62 goals, 22 Brownlow votes
Position: Back Pocket
Premiership: 3 (2007, 2009, 2011)
Best and Fairest: 2 (2009, 2011)
All Australian: 5 (2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013)
______

Nick Dal Santo: St. Kilda, North Melbourne *
285 games, 149 goals, 135 Brownlow votes (0.51 per game)
Position: Midfield
All Australian: 3 (2005, 2009, 2011)

Jarryd Roughead: Hawthorn *
207 games, 441 goals, 41 Brownlow votes
Position: Full Forward
Premiership: 3 (2008, 2013, 2014)
Coleman Medal: 1 (2013)
All Australian: 2 (2013, 2014)

Nigel Lappin: Brisbane
152 games, 86 goals, 62 Brownlow votes (0.41 per game)
Position: Half Back Flank, Midfield
Premiership: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2004)
All Australian: 4 (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)

Simon Goodwin: Adelaide.
225 games, 248 goals, 74 Brownlow votes (0.33 per game)
Position: Midfield
All Australian: (5) 2000, 2001, 2005, 2006, 2009
Best and Fairest: (3) 2000, 2005, 2006

Aaron Sandilands: Fremantle *
216 games, 83 goals, 68 Brownlow votes (0.31 per game)
Position: Ruckman
All Australian: 3 (2008, 2009, 2010, 2014)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2009)
______

Shane Crawford: Hawthorn
169 games, 99 goals, 77 Brownlow votes (0.46 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 1 (2008)
Best and Fairest: 2 (2002, 2003)
All Australian: 1 (2002)

Chad Cornes: Port Adelaide, Greater Western Sydney
249 games, 174 goals, 50 Brownlow votes
Position: Utility
Premiership: 1 (2004)
All Australian: 2 (2004, 2007)

Scott West: Western Bulldogs
177 games, 47 goals, 113 Brownlow votes (0.64 per game)
Position: Midfield
Best and Fairest: 4 (2000, 2003, 2004, 2005)
All Australian: 4 (2000, 2004, 2005, 2006)

Trent Cotchin: Richmond *
130 games, 79 goals, 83 Brownlow votes (0.64 per game)
Position: Midfield
Best and Fairest: 3 (2011, 2012, 2014)
All Australian: 1 (2012)
AFLCA Player of the Year: 1 (2012)

Chris Johnson: Brisbane
152 games, 49 goals, 26 Brownlow votes
Position: Back Pocket
Premiership: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
All Australian: 2 (2002, 2004)
______

Brett Kirk: Sydney
236 games, 96 goals, 81 Brownlow votes (0.36 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 1 (2005)
Best and Fairest: 2 (2005, 2007)
All Australian: 1 (2004)

Josh Kennedy: Hawthorn, Sydney *
134 games, 80 goals, 57 Brownlow votes (0.47 per game)
Position: Midfield
Premiership: 1 (2012)
Best and Fairest: 1 (2012)
All Australian: 2 (2012, 2014)

Peter Bell: Fremantle, North Melbourne
186 games, 152 goals, 88 Brownlow votes (0.47 per game)
Position: Midfield
All Australian: 1 (2003)
Best and Fairest: 3 (2001, 2003, 2004)

Brendan Fevola: Carlton, Brisbane
202 games, 623 goals, 47 Brownlow votes
Position: Full Forward
Coleman Medal: 2 (2006, 2009)
All Australian: 3 (2006, 2008, 2009)

Justin Leppitsch: Brisbane
120 games, 46 goals, 10 Brownlow votes
Position: Centre Half Back
Premiership: 3 (2001, 2002, 2003)
All Australian: 2 (2002, 2003)
______

 

[00Stinger]

pretty meh list to be honost

 

[BrownYouGun]

Great list, I'd have: Ablett, Goodes, Roo, Judd, Franklin, Black, Voss for the top 7, so only minor changes

 

[Nutsngum]

Great list, good to see Riewoldt @ 4 ahead of Brown, Pavlich, Tredrea etc

Love Lenny @ 10 aswell!

Just think Milne is very stiff to miss out on the top 50.

Career Summary:

2x 60+ goal seasons
4x 50+ goal seasons
2x 40+ goal seasons
1x 30+ goal season
4x 20+ goal seasons

8 years of 40+ goals per year for a forward pocket player is more than serviceable IMO.

To be fair, he already has 4 Saints players in a top 50 list which is already pretty high with 18 teams.

Great list also.

 

[schmuttt]

Aker and Fev ridiculously stiff, aside from that not a bad list.

 

[saintkildaman]

I'd rate Milne's career better then Goddard's tbh.

 

[The old campaigner]

Aker and Fev ridiculously stiff, aside from that not a bad list.

Aker is there.