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USER​	HANDICAP​	MEMBER COURSE​	BEST ROUND​
Bicco​	6.2​	Royal Hobart​	76​
TennisPlayerAndy​	6.4​	Heidelberg​	73​
Tiimmbo​	8.3​	Royal Fremantle​	78​
tigland​	5.7​	13th Beach​	73/44pts​
buttsauce​	9.3​	Leongatha South​	76​
toxic​	10.8​	Howlong​	71​
Planet14​	11.4​	Bacchus Marsh Golf Club​	80​
Livonski​	11.5​	Kingston Heath​	79​
ScrappyCoCo​	12.5*​	-​	75​
ITCHY EYEBALLS​	12.8​	The Dunes​	80​
Pklz​	14​	Romesy GC​	77/48pts​
iDon​	11.6​	Social Golf Australia​	80/44 pts​
Lebbo73​	12.3​	City GC Toowomba​	77​
Sippa​	16.9​	-​	85/43 pts​
Shane Sheridan​	18.5​	Perth Golf Network​	87​
daicos4ever​	23.7​	Lang Lang GC​
juss​	26.8​	-​	91/40 pts​
members section​	33​	-​	-​
BobbyMorri​	33​	Claremont​	97​
Elixuh​	-​	Pacific, Brisbane​	​
peternorth​	11​	​	80​
Nelso​	-​	-​	78​
sideswipe​	-​	Sorrento​	Cups WR​
royboy2​	25.3​	Cohuna GC​
QuietB​	Huntingdale-Cranbourne GC​
Daics1​	18​	Golden Beach GC​

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Most of the tier 1 and tier 2 sandbelt courses and places like PK and National should be ok for the shorter term, but a few will want to shore up their financial and operating positions with a merger or two maybe. Its the other clubs in tier 3 and 4 and so on that will have the bigger troubles I reckon.

Some are ok with the subsidies, rebates, deferrals etc but yeah fearful for a few.
Just hope a common sense approach is taken for not just golf but a lot of things once things calm reasonably. Not everything can just stay completely closed for ages.

 

[Drofder]

YY, Commonwealth, Huntingdale, National ...couple of others ....were all in discussions about potential mergers well before cv. I expect they'll be re-ignited.

YY and Comm and YY and Huntingdale already share select tee times with each other and with YY and Comm there's a sort of memorandum of understanding in place that allows for further co-operation.

Word was that a YY and Comm merger was highly likely and now, with Huntingdale failing in its attempt to merge with National, may become a third party to that possibility i.e. a YY, Comm, Huntingdale merger. Even more likely now with this cv disaster I would have thought.

 

[Pklz]

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I've just about had enough, might go for a hit this afternoon tbh.

 

[Bicco]

Royal H will not offer refunds. Will consider any applications though in case of hardship. They've made the point it's a membership club.
Course will open on the 15th for 'exercise play'. Condition won't be great (limited green staff), 2 per hole, no practice facilities available. No comps.

 

[peternorth]

Most of the tier 1 and tier 2 sandbelt courses and places like PK and National should be ok for the shorter term, but a few will want to shore up their financial and operating positions with a merger or two maybe. Its the other clubs in tier 3 and 4 and so on that will have the bigger troubles I reckon.

Yep. I dont think national will be in any strife (at an extreme).

YY, Commonwealth, Huntingdale, National ...couple of others ....were all in discussions about potential mergers well before cv. I expect they'll be re-ignited.

YY and Comm and YY and Huntingdale already share select tee times with each other and with YY and Comm there's a sort of memorandum of understanding in place that allows for further co-operation.

Word was that a YY and Comm merger was highly likely and now, with Huntingdale failing in its attempt to merge with National, may become a third party to that possibility i.e. a YY, Comm, Huntingdale merger. Even more likely now with this cv disaster I would have thought.

A yarra yarra, commonwealth and huntingdale merger sounds good. Close geographically. thumbsup from me.

Yarra Commondale
Yarra Huntingwealth
Huntingwealth Yarra
Commondale Yarra

Golf a 'reason to get up in the morning' and rare reprieve from COVID-19

The coronavirus outbreak has brought most sport to a standstill, but one game is giving some Australians respite from the ongoing uncertainty.

www.abc.net.au

I've just about had enough, might go for a hit this afternoon tbh.

Do it!!!!! Post pics here for us to enjoy please.

Royal H will not offer refunds. Will consider any applications though in case of hardship. They've made the point it's a membership club.
Course will open on the 15th for 'exercise play'. Condition won't be great (limited green staff), 2 per hole, no practice facilities available. No comps.

But Royal hobart is open for play at least, so there's some value in the membership.

 

[Bicco]

Yep. I dont think national will be in any strife (at an extreme).



A yarra yarra, commonwealth and huntingdale merger sounds good. Close geographically. thumbsup from me.

Yarra Commondale
Yarra Huntingwealth
Huntingwealth Yarra
Commondale Yarra





Do it!!!!! Post pics here for us to enjoy please.



But Royal hobart is open for play at least, so there's some value in the membership.

For now. Throw in a few community transmissions and things could change again pretty quickly as we've all seen.
Not sure how I feel about playing right now anyway TBH. I'm on a big building site and if l got sick it could potentially lead to the whole site shutting down.

 

[peternorth]

For now. Throw in a few community transmissions and things could change again pretty quickly as we've all seen.
Not sure how I feel about playing right now anyway TBH. I'm on a big building site and if l got sick it could potentially lead to the whole site shutting down.

I was thinking financially, national is ok. But yeah, nothing is final or certain.

Hows the buildig site? How well are social distancing ethoses going? I saw two tradies today lifting part of a fence together. They were next to each other

 

[peternorth]

I hit a few tennis balls yesterday with my 8 iron. It was fun

 

[Pres]

Yep. I dont think national will be in any strife (at an extreme).

peternorth how much do you predict a buyer would have to pay to pick up a National full individual share on the open market post this crisis?

Is it possible that the price could plummet to circa $5-6k?

 

[peternorth]

peternorth how much do you predict a buyer would have to pay to pick up a National full individual share on the open market post this crisis?

Is it possible that the price could plummet to circa $5-6k?

Thats a great question Pres. Hard to say, because as they say in the classics this is "unprecedented". I think they'll still hover around 10-12k. Ill do some hunting around and get back to you.

I dont recall them ever been that cheap (stand to be corrected). i got mine 11 years ago at 10k.
Obvs the club has stopped offering C class shares as of a week ago.

 

[Pres]

Word was that a YY and Comm merger was highly likely and now, with Huntingdale failing in its attempt to merge with National, may become a third party to that possibility

Hard to see how Huntingdale is an attractive merger candidate for anyone given:
- Their $6M debt that they really can't service
- The worst course architecturally in the sandbelt
- The worst course condition wise in the sandbelt

 

[Bicco]

I was thinking financially, national is ok. But yeah, nothing is final or certain.

Hows the buildig site? How well are social distancing ethoses going? I saw two tradies today lifting part of a fence together. They were next to each other

Unions and management are on to it. There's full-time cleaning teams doing all the high touch areas. But yeah, you can't help individuals. General hygiene has definitely lifted though.

 

[peternorth]

Unions and management are on to it. There's full-time cleaning teams doing all the high touch areas. But yeah, you can't help individuals. General hygiene has definitely lifted though.

A small win in a season of loss.

 

[peternorth]

Hard to see how Huntingdale is an attractive merger candidate for anyone given:
- Their $6M debt that they really can't service
- The worst course architecturally in the sandbelt
- The worst course condition wise in the sandbelt

I dont disagree. I personally am not a fan of the course, and heard not great things about it from a former member. But yeah.

 

[Drofder]

Hard to see how Huntingdale is an attractive merger candidate for anyone given:
- Their $6M debt that they really can't service
- The worst course architecturally in the sandbelt
- The worst course condition wise in the sandbelt

Some reasonable points there. They've never been the same since Jack Newton stuffed their course up and then building a clubhouse they couldnt financially support.

 

[Drofder]

A yarra yarra, commonwealth and huntingdale merger sounds good. Close geographically. thumbsup from me.

Yarra Commondale
Yarra Huntingwealth
Huntingwealth Yarra
Commondale Yarra

Yarringwealth ?

 

[peternorth]

Yarringwealth ?

No huntingdale?

 

[Drofder]

No huntingdale?

I've got 'ing' in there.

Doubt we'd do a threesome with Huntingdale. Comm and YY get on very well so I could see that happening but not sure about Huntingdale.

Victoria GC are interesting. I hear they're open to amalgamation scenarios too, but apart from RM, nobody's really that near them. (RM will never merge with anyone of course.)

 

[peternorth]

I've got 'ing' in there.

Doubt we'd do a threesome with Huntingdale. Comm and YY get on very well so I could see that happening but not sure about Huntingdale.

Victoria GC are interesting. I hear they're open to amalgamation scenarios too, but apart from RM, nobody's really that near them. (RM will never merge with anyone of course.)

oh i now c. very good.

 

[peternorth]

Most of the tier 1 and tier 2 sandbelt courses and places like PK and National should be ok for the shorter term, but a few will want to shore up their financial and operating positions with a merger or two maybe. Its the other clubs in tier 3 and 4 and so on that will have the bigger troubles I reckon.

Im interested in hearing which clubs make up the 3-4 tiers. I think RM and KH are unanimous Tier 1s of top of peoples heads.

 

[Drofder]

Im interested in hearing which clubs make up the 3-4 tiers. I think RM and KH are unanimous Tier 1s of top of peoples heads.

Well, according to the VP at YY generally the tier 1 clubs are considered to be RM,KH,Metro and National close to it. Tier 2 are VGC, Comm, YY, PK (although they think they're tier 1 now), Huntingdale. In tier 3 you have your Spring Valley's, Southern GC, Long Island etc. 4 I think falls to the likes of Keysborough, Patterson Lakes....and so on.

 

[toxic]

Well, according to the VP at YY generally the tier 1 clubs are considered to be RM,KH,Metro and National close to it. Tier 2 are VGC, Comm, YY, PK (although they think they're tier 1 now), Huntingdale. In tier 3 you have your Spring Valley's, Southern GC, Long Island etc. 4 I think falls to the likes of Keysborough, Patterson Lakes....and so on.

Cranbourne sits where?
Used to be a stunning course, I haven't played it in 8 years

 

[Drofder]

Cranbourne sits where?
Used to be a stunning course, I haven't played it in 8 years

Dunno honestly. In fact I think the tiering thing is just an informal sort of thing within the industry which probably changes a lot as well and differs between who you ask. Not any real credence to it.

Yeah I hear Cranbourne is pretty good. Never played there.

 

[Pres]

Word was that a YY and Comm merger was highly likely

I'm not 100% clear on what a merger between Commonwealth and Yarra Yarra would seek to achieve.

The only merger/acquisition we've had to date has been The National taking over Long Island. The purpose of this was twofold:

1. Give the National members somewhere else to play given Frankston is not as far from Melbourne as Cape Schanck and the fact that LI had low playing numbers
2. Have an asset in the bank that they could theoretically cash for a small fortune in given it's location

I can see why Commonwealth would eye off YY (zoned Residential). But beyond that not sure what the attraction is in merging two relatively un-financial lowly ranked Tier 2/3 clubs. Do they think a two course offering will make them a membership destination once again up there with KH, Vic, Metro, PK etc?

 

[Pres]

Cranbourne sits where?
Used to be a stunning course, I haven't played it in 8 years

It's very good and quite underrated.

However like many other clubs in that league they are broke (have already sold off a parcel of land and re-routed part of the course) so they can't realise the true potential of the course/property due to an inabilty to invest in the facility.

To answer your question it would be tier 5 (with Spring Valley and Long Island).

Tier 3 is Commonwealth, Yarra, Woodlands. Tier 4 is Huntingdale.