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B: Matthews Shauble Barry
HB: Nicks Goodes Saddington
C: Maxfield Williams Kennelly
HF: O'laughlin Ball Davis
F: Bolton Hall Cresswell
R: Doyle Crouch Fosdike
int: Stevens, Mott, Fixter, O'keefe


this is what id like to see but its probably very different to other peoples lists, i wanna see our youth take on kay positions and leadership roles and stop being passengers.
 
by the way, emergencies: sandqivsts, Kirk, Buchanan

P.S. i put cressa in pocket as he could swap in the middle, interchange and forward, same as other midfielders. I'd start him there though as hes hasn got the fitness he used too and hes a reliable kick for goal, especially late in the game ;)
 
Originally posted by thommoone
B: Matthews Shauble Barry
HB: Nicks Goodes Saddington
C: Maxfield Williams Kennelly
HF: O'laughlin Ball Davis
F: Bolton Hall Cresswell
R: Doyle Crouch Fosdike
int: Stevens, Mott, Fixter, O'keefe


this is what id like to see but its probably very different to other peoples lists, i wanna see our youth take on kay positions and leadership roles and stop being passengers.
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Fixter on the interchange? Not a chance.

He is firmly in the team now, and is getting to be one of the better players.

How often did you see him on the bench this year? In fact I cant even recall it!
 

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thats cause i want him to play midfield mostly and i reckon since he is young, let th game go for about 10 mins then swap him into the middle
 
Originally posted by thommoone
thats cause i want him to play midfield mostly and i reckon since he is young, let th game go for about 10 mins then swap him into the middle
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Yeah I guess...

This would be my lineup

B: Crouch Schuable Barry
HB: Nicks Saddington Matthews
C: Maxfield Williams Kennelly
HF: O'Loughlin Stevens Davis
F: Doyle Hall Bolton
R: Mott Goodes Fixter
int: Fosdike, Bolton, Ball, O'keefe


Soemthing like that anyway.

Made the change.
 
Mase,
yeah i reckon there are a number of different positions a lot of the players could be put in. My question to you is do you think that saddington hast the bulk to play CHB on a premanant bases?
I would love for Goodes to rove but i wouldnt mind too much if he was CHB especially since there aint to many other options
 
by the way TheMase, you have Ball at CHF and on the bench. Do you think your forward line is too tall??? it seems a very tall team except of course down back where we need talls:o :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by thommoone
Mase,
yeah i reckon there are a number of different positions a lot of the players could be put in. My question to you is do you think that saddington hast the bulk to play CHB on a premanant bases?
I would love for Goodes to rove but i wouldnt mind too much if he was CHB especially since there aint to many other options
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It really depends. I am not sure that he is a permanent option there, but at the moment I see him as developing into a Paul Roos type of player. Whereas if his player gets a few touches that is fine, as long as he runs off the backline and takes solid marks.

He will bulk up. He is only 22!

Goodes could drop back, but I think ruck-rover is his best postion at the moment.
 
Originally posted by thommoone
by the way TheMase, you have Ball at CHF and on the bench. Do you think your forward line is too tall??? it seems a very tall team except of course down back where we need talls:o :rolleyes:
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There are plenty of talls down back.
We will move other talls down back when they are necessary.
Our focus MUST be on youth.

We have Saddington (194), Schuable (190 I think).

Goodes and Ball can go down when needed.
Ball is on the bench for that reason, as he can fill the needed gaps.
We will see how it comes out, as I said something like that, Ball could perhaps play as a tall back too.

We will just see.

And I hope your not having a dig at me for having my say? Because that just isnt necessary.
 
the mase, i was just stating that you put Ball's name in twice. It makes it a bit confusing.
blues prez, i reckon people underestimate our midfield a bit. I'm hoping crouch will spend a lot more time in there and start taking over cressas role and i reckon Fozzy could take over schwattas role. Then of course youv'e got williams who has a tonne of class, aswell as Maxfield to add some extra grunt and experience, Kennelly and Fixter will spend more time in the middle also. Cresswell can still play there if his experience is neede and hopefully Bolts will finally live up to even half his potential and stop running round like a headless chook!
 
B: Seymour, Schauble, Crouch
HB: Barry, Saddington, Mathews
C: Maxfield, Cresswell, Fosdike
HF: Nicks, Goodes, O'Loughlin
F: Stevens, Hall, Davis
R: Ball, Bolton, Williams
Int: Warfe, Kirk, Kennelly, O'Keefe
 

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Originally posted by Donners
B: Seymour, Schauble, Crouch
HB: Barry, Saddington, Mathews
C: Maxfield, Cresswell, Fosdike
HF: Nicks, Goodes, O'Loughlin
F: Stevens, Hall, Davis
R: Ball, Bolton, Williams
Int: Warfe, Kirk, Kennelly, O'Keefe
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No Fixter?

Surely you're joking? :confused:
 
My side would be

F. O'Keefe Hall Buchanan
HF. Davis Stevens O'Loughlin
C. Maxfield Williams Fosdike
HB. Fixter Goodes Kennelly
B. Barry Schauble Saddington
Fol. Doyle Cresswell Crouch
Int. Mott Sundqvist Kirk Bolton
Em. Ablett Roberts-Thompson Ball
 
i reckon that half backline would play too loose. You can handle one or possibly two loose defenders but not 3 and not all in the half back line.
 
Originally posted by TheMase


No Fixter?

Surely you're joking? :confused:
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Not at all. I see him as a defensive, negative defender, and I think that Crouch and Mathews are more than capable in that role. Seymour and Warfe are necessary for height and strength in defence (unless Goodes is to be moved back, but even then I think he would struggle in a one-on-one marking contest) and Kirk is a ball-magnet who provides plenty of grunt in the middle and goalscoring power up forward. Fixter is a useful player, but for now I can really only see him filling gaps in case of injury. If I had to name emergencies, Fixter and Doyle would be among them.
 
Originally posted by Donners


Not at all. I see him as a defensive, negative defender, and I think that Crouch and Mathews are more than capable in that role. Seymour and Warfe are necessary for height and strength in defence (unless Goodes is to be moved back, but even then I think he would struggle in a one-on-one marking contest) and Kirk is a ball-magnet who provides plenty of grunt in the middle and goalscoring power up forward. Fixter is a useful player, but for now I can really only see him filling gaps in case of injury. If I had to name emergencies, Fixter and Doyle would be among them.
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I reckon Crouch is better in the midfield - primarily as a tagger but increasingly now as a playmaker in his own right. Mathews and Fixter are also capable of playing in the midfield as well, depending on match-ups.

At the B&F dinner, Roos (I think it was him anyway - could have been one of the other coaches) commented that Fixter's name is now amongst the first pencilled in on a Wednesday afternoon when they sit and pick the team.
 

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I think it's far too early to be saying that - the fact is he has only had one season as a fairly regular senior player. Players can drop off rapidly after a fairly good season as a young player - look at Troy Cook, Justin Crawford, Brett O'Farrell, Darren Holmes and others. I think much will depend on how we do at the draft (particularly with a very high pick and many good players possibly in the pre-season draft) regarding whether he starts the season as a first team player or not.

Crouch is certainly capable as a midfielder, but has never been a big possession winner. With Kelly and Schwass gone, and Cresswell likely in his final year, there may be a temptation to go with some more attacking players there.
 
Originally posted by Donners
I think it's far too early to be saying that - the fact is he has only had one season as a fairly regular senior player. Players can drop off rapidly after a fairly good season as a young player - look at Troy Cook, Justin Crawford, Brett O'Farrell, Darren Holmes and others. I think much will depend on how we do at the draft (particularly with a very high pick and many good players possibly in the pre-season draft) regarding whether he starts the season as a first team player or not.

Crouch is certainly capable as a midfielder, but has never been a big possession winner. With Kelly and Schwass gone, and Cresswell likely in his final year, there may be a temptation to go with some more attacking players there.
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Fixter is a regular player now, I can assure you of that.

IMO he could possibly be the next captain of the Swans (after Maxfield or Williams have a 2 year stint.)
 
Donners,

Crouch doesn't get many possession because he is a run with player and that the point of being a run with player - that you stop your opponent getting them instead of you getting them. His worth to our side is under rated. You read to much into stats.
 
Any thoughts on Stevens as a key defender?

With rotating Ball/Goodes/Doyle as rucks and key forwards around Hall, his game time might be minimal.

Playing on the second tall at the other end (+ Schauble) would release Saddington to play a more attacking role off HB.

Does he have enough mobility for such a role? He certainly has the size.
 
Originally posted by roowatch
Any thoughts on Stevens as a key defender?

With rotating Ball/Goodes/Doyle as rucks and key forwards around Hall, his game time might be minimal.

Playing on the second tall at the other end (+ Schauble) would release Saddington to play a more attacking role off HB.

Does he have enough mobility for such a role? He certainly has the size.
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Interesting idea. At the moment I'd say he has the height but not the bulk. He's even skinnier than Saddo was at the same stage (in terms of number of years) and he's been in "the system" for 3 years now and still no signs of rapid bulk-up. Mobility shouldn't be a problem but not so sure about his stamina.

I also question whether his defensive skills are good enough - or at least whether he has demonstrated them at the top level. He's a pretty good mark for his size but not sure about spoiling ability. Mind you, he hasn't been played in a role where that has been paramount so maybe he could do it.
 
I think Saddington is well ahead of Fixter in the future captain stakes. Stevens is certainly very mobile, but I agree that he doesn't have the bulk to be a key defender. I wouldn't mind seeing him on a flank or even a wing like he was for Port Melbourne.
 

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