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Reminds me of Letterman after 9/11, he was visibly shaken but was slipping jokes into his very serious monologue. Personally, its exactly times like this when everyone needs to laugh.
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And you lot claim SRP is lame. FFS, it was a mild gag. And funny.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...stories-are-fake/story-e6frfro0-1226622226844
People are disgusting.
People are disgusting.
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More details? What is it, or what has it been portrayed to be?
Seen this doing the rounds..
Tragedy? History is written through the eyes of a White man. There is no denying this.
What happened in Boston is terrible. No denying this also. What I have a problem with is people look the other way when such incidents happen to a third world country. In Iraq, over 50 people died in a blast. In Somalia, over 20 people died in a bomb. Mothers left childless, children left motherless.
My thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of the unfortunate in Boston, however, society needs some ******* perspective.
What happened in Boston is terrible. No denying this also. What I have a problem with is people look the other way when such incidents happen to a third world country. In Iraq, over 50 people died in a blast. In Somalia, over 20 people died in a bomb. Mothers left childless, children left motherless.
My thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of the unfortunate in Boston, however, society needs some ******* perspective.
I hope you aren't suggesting it was race related...
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Well it's the same woman pictured but the first is from the sandy Hook school massacre last year in which she was killed and the other is obviously from a story to do with the bombing in Boston.
Nothing like that.
Just a view I've always had, mate. I just can't take people seriously when they ignore one and highlight the other.
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You've completely misunderstood me, Q.
I have said I hope that the bomber(s) are not revealed to be Iranians because I could just see that being used as a pretext for a war with Iran.
At the very least, it would heighten support for such a war amongst many in the American populace (and here, too, I would argue).
Of course, my comment was merely a throwaway line (as, all things being equal, the chances of the bomber(s) actually being Iranian are slim) with what I thought was an obvious connotation.
I'd be more than happy if it turned out to have been a middle class Caucasian. Preferably a mentally-disturbed ex-serviceman who got messed up in his tours of Iraq and/or Afghanistan. It might bring some attention to the mental health crisis those wars have wrought amongst the defence forces of the belligerent nations (including Australia).
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All good.
It's not a matter of perspective. It's a matter of emotional connection. Things move you the more that you are able to relate to them. Australians relate more to a bunch of Americans attending a sporting event than they do to a bunch of Iraqis living in a warzone. Culturally, situationally, whatever.
It's nothing to be ashamed of because it is a perfectly normal human response. There is too much suffering in this world to care about it all, so your brain narrows it down to the stuff that is most relevant to you. I am sure that people in war-torn areas of the Middle East care a lot more about the deaths in Iraq than they do about this event, for identical reasons.
Just because you have a bigger emotional response to some deaths than others doesn't mean that you value those lives over the others. You sound like you regard all human life as equal, but I bet you'll be more upset when your dad dies than when I do.
The idea that people dying being common delegitimises any grief that someone feels unless it is extended to all similar circumstances is ******* stupid. We're emotional creatures, and emotion and reason are different things.
Fair enough. Respect and understand that.
Correct me if I'm wrong Caesar, because I am a lot of the time.
Australians care more about the Boston tragedy because Americans are Caucasian and speak English?
Because that is exactly what I read it as.
What does it mean then? It's obvious to me.
Of course, but I was talking about strangers.
Plus I don't even know my Dad. Could be you for all I know.
I have met a fair few (not uncommon) people who blatantly regard the lives of Western people over everybody like it's some badge of honour.
Grieve for whoever the * you want. Respect. Blatantly regard situations in Iraq and Somalia as irrelevant and I'll tell you.
Anyway, it's getting late and my blunts waiting for me with my girl. Translation? I'm going to find a half-smoked, soggy cigarette somehow on some street and have an all night pr0n session.
Overly simplistic. I don't think people would suddenly care less if the victims were black Americans, or they were Italians who don't speak English.
The point is that Americans (along with Europeans, British, New Zealanders, etc.) all come from that affluent/developed Western capitalist culture that we are familiar with. Their lives are more similar to ours than people living in Middle Eastern warzones, or famine-stricken nations on the Horn of Africa. We understand what it is like to go to a sporting event like this. We can easily imagine the terror of living in a safe, affluent city that suddenly gets ripped apart by a bomb when you least expect it.
It's not just with other humans. Why do you think people get so incredibly upset at people mistreating dogs and cats, but are a lot less passionate about the fate of lab rats? Dogs and cats hit closer to home.
It means it resonates with you emotionally. No more, no less.
Same principle. The more something affects or relates to you personally, the greater your emotional response.
Human beings are able to operate on both emotional and intellectual levels. I can have a greater emotional investment in my family without it rendering invalid my intellectual belief that all human beings are equal.
Anyone who says that their emotional reactions always neatly align with their intellectual positions on everything is lying.
Sure, but nobody in this thread has said that. You're just assuming the correlation.
Like I said, emotionally responding to one situation but not another =/= not caring about the latter.
When you get upset that people are more emotional over this bombing than one in Somalia, you are getting upset with the fact that Australians can relate better to a bunch of people from Boston than a bunch of people from Mogadishu. It's fairly pointless because that's just the nature of reality.
Better to just accept that emotions aren't rational. There's no shame in it.
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Because it happens all the time, every day. That's why it isn't shocking.
As I said, the only shocking thing to me, is that it doesn't happen more often in the USA.
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For the record I wasn't "shocked" by Kony 2012 either. But thats because I actually know a bunch of s**t about the world cause I pay attention.
I bet a bunch of the lovejoys in this thread were right into Kony though, then posted about it on facebook for a week before forgetting about it.
I bet a bunch of the lovejoys in this thread were right into Kony though, then posted about it on facebook for a week before forgetting about it.
